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戴庆成：香港教科书年年涨价的背后
2026-08-24 05:00 / 联合早报
香港教科书比去年整体加价约3.6%，幅度创下近年新高。图为2023年6月2日，香港市民在一家书店选购书本。 （路透社档案照片）
还有约一个星期就9月了，随着学校新学期开学的日子渐近，教科书涨价问题又成为香港社会热门话题。
事缘香港中小学课本每年都会加价，民众基本上已见惯不怪。但今年香港经济状况一般，教科书却较去年整体加价约3.6%，幅度创下近年新高，不禁令人哗然；其中中一的书单价格更介于4400至6000多港元（712至971新元），差不多是一个普通打工仔的半个月工资。许多基层家庭慨叹养育子女的负担不断加重。
过去一个月，不少家长为了节省开支，陆续带子女到二手书书店林立的旺角淘宝买书。
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蓝云舟：印尼推双重国籍政策能否奏效？
2026年8月24日 05:01 / 联合早报 蓝云舟（雅加达特派员）
印度尼西亚总统普拉博沃8月14日在议会发表国情咨文演说和财政预算案声明。 （路透社）
让具备专长的印度尼西亚人无须在印尼和他国国籍之间作抉择，是印尼政府放宽双重国籍限制背后的考量。总统普拉博沃8月14日在财政预算案声明中提出，将有限度地允许印尼人才拥有双重国籍。这将让最优秀的侨民也能为印尼效力，不必被迫在国外发展机遇和祖国情感牵系之间二选一，左右为难。
不过，不是所有想拥有双重国籍的印尼侨民都能自动获得批准，申请者还须“具备特殊才能，能为国家利益做出特殊贡献”。
普拉博沃在演说中指出，遍布世界各地的印尼侨民不乏科学家、医生、工程师、人工智能专才、科研人员、企业家、艺术家和运动员，这些专业人士具备支持国家发展的专长。
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2026年8月24日 07:00 / 联合早报
文/黄薏文 译/王慧芳
受访年轻人如（左起）林宥、哈麦拉、李昱萱和维什努凯申都对新加坡未来抱乐观看法，并对于新加坡人的身份感到自豪。 （档案照片）
《海峡时报》民调显示，年轻一代以身为新加坡人而自豪，也看好在本地发展的前景，但期盼在2065年能实现更理想的工作与生活平衡，并得到更多发展机遇。
有些传统应当坚守，有些现状则须改变。
新加坡建国的首60年，建立在坚韧不拔的精神、严明的纪律，以及小国也能在国际舞台闯出一片天的信念之上。展望2065年建国百年，年轻国人关注的已不再只是新加坡能走多远，更是我们要继续守护一个怎样的家园。
在本地青年眼中，未来的衡量标准不仅在于经济增长，更在于随着社会日益复杂，人们是否继续享有安全感、多元文化是否仍然真实存在、任人唯贤的制度能否继续为国人提供公平的机会，以及各族群能否和睦共处。
年轻新加坡人依然认为，新加坡安全、稳定，是值得安身立命的热土。但他们也期待未来的新加坡，生活能更从容、社会更具人情味，而不再一味以追逐成功来定义人生的意义。
《海峡时报》针对本地青年对新加坡建国百年的愿景展开民调。调查显示，高达95%的受访者以身为新加坡人而自豪，同时有68%的受访者对在这里成长和开创未来感到乐观。
（新报业媒体制图）
这项民调是在今年6月15日至7月5日进行，共访问1109名年龄介于13岁至35岁的新加坡公民和永久居民。
20岁的学生维什努凯申•西瓦普拉加萨姆指出，新加坡让他这样的年轻人相信，一分耕耘就有一分收获。
他说：“我目前半工半读，同时也在规划未来。这并不容易，但我知道只要继续努力，就能在这里找到成长的机会。”
（新报业媒体制图）
19岁的林宥则对新加坡社会中默默传递的关怀有了更深刻的体会。
他认为，这种温情是最容易被忽视、却也最能体现新加坡特质的价值之一。“无论是在地铁上让座给有需要的乘客，还是社区服务和定期志愿服务活动等，这些日常生活的大大小小善举屡见不鲜。正是这些点滴累积，共同塑造了新加坡所追求的社会——一个不仅安全繁荣，而且建立在人人平等、互相尊重基础上的社会。”
如今的年轻人希望一些珍视的事物能够延续，同时也期待拥有更好的工作与生活平衡。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
谈及对2065年社会的愿景，半数受访者希望新加坡在充满不确定性的世界中，依然保持安全、稳定与坚韧；44%的受访者希望社会能让每个新加坡人拥有追逐梦想的机会；38%则期盼不论背景，每个人都能在这里找到归属感。
不过，民调也显示，“新加坡梦”的定义正在发生变化，这在较年轻群体中尤为明显。
关于建国百年理想社会最需改善的领域，38%的受访者选择更好的工作与生活平衡以及心理健康；35%的人认为生活成本必须维持在可负担的水平；另有22%则希望创造更平等的机遇，并改善教育与职业发展前景。
展望2065年，本地青年心中的“新加坡梦”更趋务实。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
谈到对“新加坡梦”的当前定义，39%的受访者选择实现工作与生活平衡并重视心理健康；37%更看重经济保障；30%则追求能带来成就感的事业。
受访青年也认同民调结果，认为新加坡的下一发展篇章仍应以安全、公平与机遇为核心，但同时也要更具有同理心与归属感，并且给予人们按照自身节奏成长的空间。
18岁的学生李昱萱希望，未来的新加坡能更包容失败，不再凡事以争第一为目标，也不轻易否定人们的好奇心与创造力。
维什努凯申认为，百年新加坡应当是一个不论背景、人人皆有归属感的地方。他说：“如果年轻一代依然负担得起在这里的生活，家庭继续享有安全感，而我们没有失去让新加坡独一无二的凝聚力，我会感到非常自豪。”
多数青年依然视新加坡为家园，但在流动性更高的世界中，他们的扎根心态也更务实。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
22岁的政治学系本科生哈麦拉•萨菲娅则希望，到了2065年，马来族回教少女既能为自己的身份感到自豪，也能完全融入新加坡的整体叙事中。
她说：“在这里，多元化不应只是获得接纳，更应受到珍视。我希望未来世代能在一个让他们为自身文化、信仰和语言为荣的社会中成长，同时也懂得向其他族群学习。”
在即将入读医学院的林宥看来，未来的新加坡应该在文化上充满活力与生机，并继续把尊重多元化作为日常生活的核心价值。
林宥表示，新加坡致力建设可持续社区的决心令他深受启发，但他也期盼未来的世代能在一个保有温情与凝聚力的国度里成长。
35岁的律师罗天锴指出，无论在社会政治稳定还是经济战略方面，新加坡都必须继续担当国际社会的典范。
为此，新加坡必须进一步巩固任人唯贤的原则，并保证社会流动性。罗天锴强调，跨世代资源与人脉的代际传承需要取得平衡，让有能力且积极进取的国人仍能凭自身努力取得成功。
他说：“我们必须谨慎避免特权固化、机会集中，以确保新加坡社会长久保持活力，历久弥新。”
年轻一代认为，新加坡在未来40年必须重点关注的课题包括：生活成本与住房可负担性、就业与经济机遇、心理健康与整体福祉，以及社会包容性。
黄循财总理在今年6月指出，面对日益分化的世界，新加坡必须更具凝聚力。像新加坡这样的开放经济体，往往最先感受到科技变革和地缘政治紧张等全球变局带来的冲击。
在世界日益分化之际，新加坡最需要警惕什么风险？新加坡管理大学促进大学影响力事务处协理处长周瀚毅博士受访时指出，社会信任的削弱是一大隐忧。
他说，新加坡引进的不仅是人才、科技和创意，各种意识形态、焦虑和不满情绪也可能随之而来。因此，无论是在虚拟网络还是现实生活中，社会都必须持续维护与巩固相互尊重、和睦共处的社会基础。
周博士提醒，某些形式的社会分化行径，并不一定属于可被纠正的假信息，也不一定能被归类为可下架的网络伤害。
他说：“这些言论可能并不违法，却会侵蚀社会。它们通过嘲讽式的幽默，经由网红、网络社群和算法推送传播，潜移默化地改变人们的认知，让人们以为排斥或贬低他人也可以被接受。”
促进跨信仰交流组织Dialogue Centre创始人莫哈曼•伊姆兰则指出，值得欣慰的是，人们日益意识到社会身份认同正变得更复杂，也更加多元。
他指出，随着跨种族、跨宗教和跨国婚姻越发普遍，这是社会发展的自然趋势。官方数据显示，在公民婚姻中，跨族群婚姻的比例从2022年的17%增至2024年的19.2%；同期跨国婚姻的比例也从33.2%增至36.6%。
伊姆兰强调，新加坡人必须保持警惕，并补充道：“我们必须培养正确的价值观，来引领国家的道德方向。”
他说：“新加坡信约中所体现的公正平等精神，以及引领国人为国家的幸福、繁荣与进步作出努力的理念，必须真正内化于心。”
这意味着新加坡必须缩小社会差距，并防范任何煽动排外情绪的企图。
调查显示，81%的受访者认同新加坡信约所倡导的多元文化、民主、公正与平等价值观，时至今日依然适用。
另有86%认为，每个新加坡人都有责任在日常生活中践行这些价值观。
（新报业媒体制图）
不少年轻一代已经开始思考如何为国家尽一份力。
在众多课题中，本地青年最关注的是，他们相信自己能为推动科技创新与打造面向未来的经济体作出贡献；紧随其后的是重塑新加坡的职场与求学文化，减轻压力、提升满足感；以及维持新加坡在国际社会继续占有一席之地，并受尊重。
林宥认为，人口快速老龄化是新加坡未来面临的最大挑战之一。他希望通过未来的医学专业训练，协助年长者获得更优质、更具同理心且可负担的医疗服务。
从事国际仲裁的律师罗天锴则希望，通过前瞻洞察、创新以及卓越客户服务，让新加坡继续在国际舞台发挥影响力。
对哈麦拉而言，推动社会进步也可以通过持之以恒的点滴努力来实现。除了通过文字讲述故事，并打造能让人找到归属感的空间外，她也希望借助自己去年创立、以穆斯林头巾为主的时尚品牌Satura，为社会作出贡献。
她说：“虽然品牌起初只是一门生意，但我希望它日后能发展成更有意义的平台，庆祝身份认同之余，也回馈社会。”
注：这项网上调查于2026年6月15日至7月5日进行，共访问1109名年龄介于13岁至35岁的新加坡公民和永久居民。受访者当中，87％是公民，13％是永久居民；65％已就业，32％是在籍学生和国民服役人员，其余目前没有工作或求学。
本文作者曾任《海峡时报》财经组记者。
本文转载自《海峡时报》。本文属于新报业媒体与国防部全面防卫与联系署（Nexus）特别合作的国民教育系列，旨在聚焦国家课题。全面防卫与联系署是负责推动新加坡国民教育与全面防卫的机构。
年轻国人展望建国百年：安全、公平、团结 且生活更美好
2026年8月24日 07:00 / 联合早报
文/黄薏文 译/王慧芳
受访年轻人如（左起）林宥、哈麦拉、李昱萱和维什努凯申都对新加坡未来抱乐观看法，并对于新加坡人的身份感到自豪。 （档案照片）
《海峡时报》民调显示，年轻一代以身为新加坡人而自豪，也看好在本地发展的前景，但期盼在2065年能实现更理想的工作与生活平衡，并得到更多发展机遇。
有些传统应当坚守，有些现状则须改变。
新加坡建国的首60年，建立在坚韧不拔的精神、严明的纪律，以及小国也能在国际舞台闯出一片天的信念之上。展望2065年建国百年，年轻国人关注的已不再只是新加坡能走多远，更是我们要继续守护一个怎样的家园。
在本地青年眼中，未来的衡量标准不仅在于经济增长，更在于随着社会日益复杂，人们是否继续享有安全感、多元文化是否仍然真实存在、任人唯贤的制度能否继续为国人提供公平的机会，以及各族群能否和睦共处。
年轻新加坡人依然认为，新加坡安全、稳定，是值得安身立命的热土。但他们也期待未来的新加坡，生活能更从容、社会更具人情味，而不再一味以追逐成功来定义人生的意义。
《海峡时报》针对本地青年对新加坡建国百年的愿景展开民调。调查显示，高达95%的受访者以身为新加坡人而自豪，同时有68%的受访者对在这里成长和开创未来感到乐观。
（新报业媒体制图）
这项民调是在今年6月15日至7月5日进行，共访问1109名年龄介于13岁至35岁的新加坡公民和永久居民。
20岁的学生维什努凯申•西瓦普拉加萨姆指出，新加坡让他这样的年轻人相信，一分耕耘就有一分收获。
他说：“我目前半工半读，同时也在规划未来。这并不容易，但我知道只要继续努力，就能在这里找到成长的机会。”
（新报业媒体制图）
19岁的林宥则对新加坡社会中默默传递的关怀有了更深刻的体会。
他认为，这种温情是最容易被忽视、却也最能体现新加坡特质的价值之一。“无论是在地铁上让座给有需要的乘客，还是社区服务和定期志愿服务活动等，这些日常生活的大大小小善举屡见不鲜。正是这些点滴累积，共同塑造了新加坡所追求的社会——一个不仅安全繁荣，而且建立在人人平等、互相尊重基础上的社会。”
如今的年轻人希望一些珍视的事物能够延续，同时也期待拥有更好的工作与生活平衡。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
谈及对2065年社会的愿景，半数受访者希望新加坡在充满不确定性的世界中，依然保持安全、稳定与坚韧；44%的受访者希望社会能让每个新加坡人拥有追逐梦想的机会；38%则期盼不论背景，每个人都能在这里找到归属感。
不过，民调也显示，“新加坡梦”的定义正在发生变化，这在较年轻群体中尤为明显。
关于建国百年理想社会最需改善的领域，38%的受访者选择更好的工作与生活平衡以及心理健康；35%的人认为生活成本必须维持在可负担的水平；另有22%则希望创造更平等的机遇，并改善教育与职业发展前景。
展望2065年，本地青年心中的“新加坡梦”更趋务实。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
谈到对“新加坡梦”的当前定义，39%的受访者选择实现工作与生活平衡并重视心理健康；37%更看重经济保障；30%则追求能带来成就感的事业。
受访青年也认同民调结果，认为新加坡的下一发展篇章仍应以安全、公平与机遇为核心，但同时也要更具有同理心与归属感，并且给予人们按照自身节奏成长的空间。
18岁的学生李昱萱希望，未来的新加坡能更包容失败，不再凡事以争第一为目标，也不轻易否定人们的好奇心与创造力。
维什努凯申认为，百年新加坡应当是一个不论背景、人人皆有归属感的地方。他说：“如果年轻一代依然负担得起在这里的生活，家庭继续享有安全感，而我们没有失去让新加坡独一无二的凝聚力，我会感到非常自豪。”
多数青年依然视新加坡为家园，但在流动性更高的世界中，他们的扎根心态也更务实。
（新报业媒体制图）
（新报业媒体制图）
22岁的政治学系本科生哈麦拉•萨菲娅则希望，到了2065年，马来族回教少女既能为自己的身份感到自豪，也能完全融入新加坡的整体叙事中。
她说：“在这里，多元化不应只是获得接纳，更应受到珍视。我希望未来世代能在一个让他们为自身文化、信仰和语言为荣的社会中成长，同时也懂得向其他族群学习。”
在即将入读医学院的林宥看来，未来的新加坡应该在文化上充满活力与生机，并继续把尊重多元化作为日常生活的核心价值。
林宥表示，新加坡致力建设可持续社区的决心令他深受启发，但他也期盼未来的世代能在一个保有温情与凝聚力的国度里成长。
35岁的律师罗天锴指出，无论在社会政治稳定还是经济战略方面，新加坡都必须继续担当国际社会的典范。
为此，新加坡必须进一步巩固任人唯贤的原则，并保证社会流动性。罗天锴强调，跨世代资源与人脉的代际传承需要取得平衡，让有能力且积极进取的国人仍能凭自身努力取得成功。
他说：“我们必须谨慎避免特权固化、机会集中，以确保新加坡社会长久保持活力，历久弥新。”
年轻一代认为，新加坡在未来40年必须重点关注的课题包括：生活成本与住房可负担性、就业与经济机遇、心理健康与整体福祉，以及社会包容性。
黄循财总理在今年6月指出，面对日益分化的世界，新加坡必须更具凝聚力。像新加坡这样的开放经济体，往往最先感受到科技变革和地缘政治紧张等全球变局带来的冲击。
在世界日益分化之际，新加坡最需要警惕什么风险？新加坡管理大学促进大学影响力事务处协理处长周瀚毅博士受访时指出，社会信任的削弱是一大隐忧。
他说，新加坡引进的不仅是人才、科技和创意，各种意识形态、焦虑和不满情绪也可能随之而来。因此，无论是在虚拟网络还是现实生活中，社会都必须持续维护与巩固相互尊重、和睦共处的社会基础。
周博士提醒，某些形式的社会分化行径，并不一定属于可被纠正的假信息，也不一定能被归类为可下架的网络伤害。
他说：“这些言论可能并不违法，却会侵蚀社会。它们通过嘲讽式的幽默，经由网红、网络社群和算法推送传播，潜移默化地改变人们的认知，让人们以为排斥或贬低他人也可以被接受。”
促进跨信仰交流组织Dialogue Centre创始人莫哈曼•伊姆兰则指出，值得欣慰的是，人们日益意识到社会身份认同正变得更复杂，也更加多元。
他指出，随着跨种族、跨宗教和跨国婚姻越发普遍，这是社会发展的自然趋势。官方数据显示，在公民婚姻中，跨族群婚姻的比例从2022年的17%增至2024年的19.2%；同期跨国婚姻的比例也从33.2%增至36.6%。
伊姆兰强调，新加坡人必须保持警惕，并补充道：“我们必须培养正确的价值观，来引领国家的道德方向。”
他说：“新加坡信约中所体现的公正平等精神，以及引领国人为国家的幸福、繁荣与进步作出努力的理念，必须真正内化于心。”
这意味着新加坡必须缩小社会差距，并防范任何煽动排外情绪的企图。
调查显示，81%的受访者认同新加坡信约所倡导的多元文化、民主、公正与平等价值观，时至今日依然适用。
另有86%认为，每个新加坡人都有责任在日常生活中践行这些价值观。
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不少年轻一代已经开始思考如何为国家尽一份力。
在众多课题中，本地青年最关注的是，他们相信自己能为推动科技创新与打造面向未来的经济体作出贡献；紧随其后的是重塑新加坡的职场与求学文化，减轻压力、提升满足感；以及维持新加坡在国际社会继续占有一席之地，并受尊重。
林宥认为，人口快速老龄化是新加坡未来面临的最大挑战之一。他希望通过未来的医学专业训练，协助年长者获得更优质、更具同理心且可负担的医疗服务。
从事国际仲裁的律师罗天锴则希望，通过前瞻洞察、创新以及卓越客户服务，让新加坡继续在国际舞台发挥影响力。
对哈麦拉而言，推动社会进步也可以通过持之以恒的点滴努力来实现。除了通过文字讲述故事，并打造能让人找到归属感的空间外，她也希望借助自己去年创立、以穆斯林头巾为主的时尚品牌Satura，为社会作出贡献。
她说：“虽然品牌起初只是一门生意，但我希望它日后能发展成更有意义的平台，庆祝身份认同之余，也回馈社会。”
注：这项网上调查于2026年6月15日至7月5日进行，共访问1109名年龄介于13岁至35岁的新加坡公民和永久居民。受访者当中，87％是公民，13％是永久居民；65％已就业，32％是在籍学生和国民服役人员，其余目前没有工作或求学。
本文作者曾任《海峡时报》财经组记者。
本文转载自《海峡时报》。本文属于新报业媒体与国防部全面防卫与联系署（Nexus）特别合作的国民教育系列，旨在聚焦国家课题。全面防卫与联系署是负责推动新加坡国民教育与全面防卫的机构。
2026年8月23日 / 美国东部时间下午4:23 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
作者：露西娅·I·苏亚雷斯·桑 副主编
露西娅·苏亚雷斯·桑是CBSNews.com的副主编。此前，她曾担任康涅狄格州FOX61新闻的数字内容总监，并为FoxNews.com、Fox News Latino和《拉特兰先驱报》等媒体撰稿。
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曾是学校图书馆员、怀揣演艺梦闯荡好莱坞的邦妮·莱文已去世，享年97岁。
8月20日，莱文的经纪人布兰登·克亚尔周日向哥伦比亚广播公司新闻证实，莱文在加利福尼亚州塔扎纳的家中安详睡梦中离世。
“邦妮凭借她在教育和演艺领域的工作，赢得了许多人的喜爱与钦佩，”莱文的家人在发给哥伦比亚广播公司新闻的声明中说道。
2024年6月14日，邦妮·莱文出席在加利福尼亚州好莱坞埃及剧院举办的《塞尔玛》洛杉矶首映式。阿曼达·爱德华兹 / 盖蒂图片社
据她的IMDb简介显示，莱文于1928年12月22日出生在新泽西州东奥兰治，年少时便怀揣表演梦想。但她暂时搁置了梦想，先后在纽约大学和哥伦比亚大学获得硕士学位，并担任了25年的学校图书馆员。退休后，莱文开始试镜，斩获了大量影视角色，包括《吉尔莫女孩》《爱乐之城》《法律与秩序》《家有喜旺》等作品。
“她是一位出色且无畏的女演员，也是一位非常友善的女士。她拥有充实的一生。我们会怀念她的，”她的经纪人迈克·艾森斯塔特在发给哥伦比亚广播公司新闻的邮件声明中说道。
克亚尔告诉哥伦比亚广播公司新闻，莱文从未停止试镜，最后一次参与拍摄是在今年6月。
她近年的参演作品包括2023年的《隐形猛禽》、迈克尔·安加拉诺执导的《萨克拉门托》以及2024年上映的《塞尔玛》。2026年，她参演了《加布好老师》最终季和《治愈之爱》。
1991年，莱文与结婚53年的丈夫伯尼·莱文在纽约市共同创立了“演员联结”组织。
“她帮助演员的热情助力了无数人的职业生涯，”该组织在莱文去世后发表的声明中说道。“感谢邦妮创造了这样一个充满活力的社群，服务你一直深爱的 fellow artists——愿你安息，静享平和！”
她留下了子女马蒂、弗朗西和乔，以及孙辈罗宾和杰弗里。
Bunny Levine, actress known for roles in “Gilmore Girls” and “La La Land,” dies at 97
August 23, 2026 / 4:23 PM EDT / CBS News
By Lucia I Suarez Sang Associate Managing Editor
Lucia Suarez Sang is an associate managing editor at CBSNews.com. Previously, Lucia was the director of digital content at FOX61 News in Connecticut and has previously written for outlets including FoxNews.com, Fox News Latino and the Rutland Herald.
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Bunny Levine, a former school librarian who followed her acting dream to Hollywood, has died. She was 97.
Levine died peacefully in her sleep at her home in Tarzana, California, on Aug. 20, her manager Brandon Kjar confirmed to CBS News on Sunday.
“Bunny inspired affection and admiration in many people with her work in education and performance,” Levine’s family said in a statement to CBS News.
Bunny Levine attends the Los Angeles premiere of “Thelma” at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood on June 14, 2024, in Los Angeles, California. Amanda Edwards / Getty Images
Levine was born on Dec. 22, 1928, in East Orange, New Jersey, and had a dream of acting and performing at a young age. However, she put that dream on hold, earned master’s degrees from New York University and Columbia University, and worked as a school librarian for 25 years, according to her IMDb biography. After she retired, Levine began auditioning, booking numerous TV and film roles, including on “Gilmore Girls,” “La La Land,” “Law & Order,” “Raising Hope” and more.
“She was a great and fearless actress and such a nice lady. What a full life. She will be missed,” her agent Mike Eisenstadt told CBS News in an emailed statement.
Kjar told CBS News that Levine continued to audition for roles and last worked in June.
Her more recent credits include “The Invisible Raptor” in 2023, Michael Angarano’s “Sacramento” and “Thelma,” both released in 2024. In 2026, she appeared in the final season of “The Upshaws” and “The Cure.”
In 1991, Levine and her husband of 53 years, Bernie Levine, founded the Actors Connection in New York City.
“Her passion for helping actors has launched countless careers,” the organization said in a statement after Levine’s death. “Thank you Bunny for creating such a vibrant community to serve the fellow artists you have always loved — may you rest in sweet peace!”
She is survived by her children, Marty, Francie and Joe, and her grandchildren, Robin and Jeffrey.
2026年8月24日 06:39 / 联合早报
8月22日的社媒视频截图显示，美国内华达州里诺市的霍克山火浓烟滚滚，遮蔽整个天空。 （路透社）
一场大型野火快速逼近美国内华达州、与加利福尼亚州邻近的里诺市，逾9万居民受影响。
路透社报道，内华达州消防部门证实凶猛火势已造成六人受伤。当地官员星期天（8月23日）上午说，由于霍克山火（Hawk Fire）威胁里诺北部，里诺市（Reno）约4万2000居民流离失所或正在紧急撤离，另有4万5000人随时准备撤离。
霍克山火于22日上午起火并迅速蔓延，火灾追踪网站显示，疏散区域从内华达山脉一直延伸到里诺西北部的内华达大学。
当地电视台画面显示，火焰逼近道路。路透社核实的目击者视频显示，山上的浓烟笼罩着附近的居民区。
彭博社报道，美国林务局事故指挥官阿克森告诉记者，这场大火是人为引起的。截至纽约时间23日下午2时（新加坡时间24日凌晨2时），大火烧毁超过5261公顷土地，被毁建筑物数量不明。火势目前处于失控状态，超过1000名应急人员，包括约800名消防人员正在火场周边奋战，已有六人包括三名消防应急人员受伤。
内华达州州长隆巴尔多宣布里诺市所在的沃肖县（Washoe County）进入紧急状态，并下令动员内华达州国民警卫队。当地目前约1万名用户处于断电状态，多条主要公路被迫关闭。
里诺市距美国西部著名的观光度假地塔霍湖只有约60公里。当地官员说，里诺-斯特德机场已关闭，暂停一般航空交通，但里诺-塔霍国际机场仍保持开放。
在高温和干旱气候下，美国西部多州近期野火频发，仅内华达州内目前就有多处大规模野火正在燃烧。
大型野火快速逼近居民区 美国内华达近9万人受影响
2026年8月24日 06:39 / 联合早报
8月22日的社媒视频截图显示，美国内华达州里诺市的霍克山火浓烟滚滚，遮蔽整个天空。 （路透社）
一场大型野火快速逼近美国内华达州、与加利福尼亚州邻近的里诺市，逾9万居民受影响。
路透社报道，内华达州消防部门证实凶猛火势已造成六人受伤。当地官员星期天（8月23日）上午说，由于霍克山火（Hawk Fire）威胁里诺北部，里诺市（Reno）约4万2000居民流离失所或正在紧急撤离，另有4万5000人随时准备撤离。
霍克山火于22日上午起火并迅速蔓延，火灾追踪网站显示，疏散区域从内华达山脉一直延伸到里诺西北部的内华达大学。
当地电视台画面显示，火焰逼近道路。路透社核实的目击者视频显示，山上的浓烟笼罩着附近的居民区。
彭博社报道，美国林务局事故指挥官阿克森告诉记者，这场大火是人为引起的。截至纽约时间23日下午2时（新加坡时间24日凌晨2时），大火烧毁超过5261公顷土地，被毁建筑物数量不明。火势目前处于失控状态，超过1000名应急人员，包括约800名消防人员正在火场周边奋战，已有六人包括三名消防应急人员受伤。
内华达州州长隆巴尔多宣布里诺市所在的沃肖县（Washoe County）进入紧急状态，并下令动员内华达州国民警卫队。当地目前约1万名用户处于断电状态，多条主要公路被迫关闭。
里诺市距美国西部著名的观光度假地塔霍湖只有约60公里。当地官员说，里诺-斯特德机场已关闭，暂停一般航空交通，但里诺-塔霍国际机场仍保持开放。
在高温和干旱气候下，美国西部多州近期野火频发，仅内华达州内目前就有多处大规模野火正在燃烧。
2026年8月23日 / 美国东部时间下午6:46 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
美国海军水兵约书亚·阿维莱斯表示，他在亚伯拉罕·林肯号航空母舰上服役第九个月期间，得知父亲被联邦移民官员逮捕。该航母此前因水兵面临的心理健康挑战和恶劣服役条件成为报道焦点。
“我刚接到电话，说我父亲被移民海关执法局（ICE）带走了。认识我父亲的人都知道，他是个勤奋谦逊的人，只要力所能及，总会愿意帮助任何人，”阿维莱斯在本周末的Facebook帖子中写道。
“这让我心碎。一想到父亲不知身在何处，可能被当作罪犯对待，我都不知道自己该如何继续精神饱满地完成每天12小时以上的工作，”他补充道。
在接受哥伦比亚广播公司新闻采访时，美国国土安全部证实，尼加拉瓜裔本地人路易斯·曼努埃尔·阿维莱斯·罗阿于周六在佛罗里达州基韦斯特的一次交通拦截中被边境巡逻队逮捕，理由是他非法入境美国。该部门表示，阿维莱斯目前仍被关押在移民和海关执法局的拘留所中，面临递解出境程序。
国土安全部并未反驳家属所称阿维莱斯没有犯罪记录的说法，但表示“拥有一名军人亲属并不能成为违反我国法律的免死金牌”。
“我们只是在执行国会通过的法律，”该部门在周日的一份声明中表示，“本届政府不会选择性地执行法律。”
过去一年半以来，阿维莱斯的被捕是最新一起影响美国军人家庭的移民执法行动。
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此前较为罕见的逮捕军人配偶和父母的移民执法行动，在第二届特朗普政府时期变得愈发普遍。本届政府取消了移民海关执法局和边境巡逻队此前的逮捕限制，作为其大规模递解出境行动的一部分。
国土安全部官员始终表示，任何非法入境美国的人都有可能被逮捕并启动递解出境程序，即便涉及军人家庭也不例外。
阿维莱斯在Facebook帖子中提到了林肯号航母在中东的长期部署。
“我已经在中东海域的亚伯拉罕·林肯号上部署了九个多月，为这个给予我一切的国家战斗，”他写道。
这艘航母及其约5000名船员已于上周离开中东返回美国，航程可能需要数周时间。
U.S. Navy sailor on USS Lincoln says dad was arrested by immigration officials
August 23, 2026 / 6:46 PM EDT / CBS News
U.S. Navy sailor Joshua Aviles said he learned his father was arrested by federal immigration officials while on his ninth month aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier that has been at the center of reports of mental health challenges and subpar conditions faced by service members.
“I just got a call that my dad was taken by ICE. If you know my dad, you know he is a hardworking, humble man who is always willing to help anyone if he can,” Aviles wrote in a Facebook post this weekend.
“This is heartbreaking for me. I don’t know how I can mentally continue working 12+ hour days knowing that my dad is somewhere, possibly being treated like a criminal,” he added.
Asked by CBS News about the arrest, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed Luis Manuel Aviles Roa, a native of Nicaragua, was arrested by Border Patrol during a traffic stop in Key West, Florida, on Saturday, saying he entered the U.S. illegally. The department said Aviles remained in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody, facing deportation proceedings.
DHS did not dispute the family’s statements that Aviles lacks a criminal record, but said that “(h)aving a family member in the military is not a free pass to violate our nation’s laws.”
“We are simply enforcing the laws passed by Congress,” the department said in a statement Sunday. “This Administration does not pick and choose which laws to enforce.”
Aviles’ arrest is the latest immigration enforcement operation to affect a U.S. military family over the past year and a half.
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Historically rare, immigration arrests of military spouses and parents have become more common under the second Trump administration, which rescinded prior limits on arrests by ICE and Border Patrol as part of its mass deportation campaign.
DHS officials have consistently said anyone in the country illegally is vulnerable to being arrested and processed for deportation, even in cases involving military families.
In his Facebook post, Aviles noted the USS Lincoln’s extended deployment in the Middle East.
“I’ve been deployed for over nine months, out at sea in the Middle East aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, fighting for a country that has given me everything,” he wrote.
The aircraft carrier and its roughly 5,000 crew members left the Middle East last week to head back to the U.S., a journey that could take several weeks.
2026-08-23T12:06:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
以下是马萨诸塞州民主党众议员、参议院初选候选人赛思·莫尔顿的采访实录，该采访于2026年8月23日在《玛格丽特·布伦南直面全国》节目中播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们接下来要采访另一位国会议员，他就是赛思·莫尔顿，现在从马萨诸塞州塞勒姆和我们连线。莫尔顿众议员希望成为莫尔顿参议员，他已经正式向埃德·马基发起初选挑战。很高兴您能来到我们节目，议员。上次——
众议员赛思·莫尔顿： 很高兴见到你，玛格丽特。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 上一次有年轻挑战者角逐马基的参议员席位时，马基获胜了。当伯尼·桑德斯参议员和奥卡西奥-科特兹都支持他时，你如何争取 partisan 支持者为你投票？
众议员莫尔顿： 嗯，正如《波士顿环球报》在 endorsing 我时所说的——顺便说一句，这对他们来说是个转变，因为六年前他们曾支持马基参议员——未来已至。世界已经变了，而马基参议员的竞选策略和他2020年时如出一辙，当时那些人也都支持了他。但在我们本周刚刚举行的最新一场辩论中，他向马萨诸塞州选民坦言，他搞不懂手机上的各类应用程序，也不知道哪些应用用到了人工智能，之后他试图圆场，称人工智能就像汽车，我们应该像监管安全带一样监管它。所以关键在于，世界已经向前发展了。这和埃德·马基本人无关，事实上，我和他在大多数政策上都持相同立场。问题在于，当世界都在向前发展时，是否还应该让一个人占据一个参议院席位——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
众议员莫尔顿： ——长达数十年。玛格丽特，他已经在华盛顿待了50年了。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 是的，而你一段时间以来一直聚焦于代际变革的必要性。你在2016年和2018年曾试图罢免南希·佩洛西的领导层职务，当时就推动代际变革。你在2019年参选总统。2024年，你是第三位公开表示拜登不应再次参选的国会议员。所以从大局来看，你似乎一直在说民主党长期以来都走上了错误的道路。
众议员莫尔顿： 没错，这说得很公允。我的意思是，这对我来说是发自内心的。从我第一次参选国会，挑战本党一位连任九届的现任议员开始，当时埃德·马基的很多建制派支持者都在反对我，我就一直愿意在认为建制派未能履职时发起挑战。而且我第一个承认，这并不总是受欢迎的，对吧？也并不总能引起人们的共鸣。但现在，这一点极其必要。超过七成的马萨诸塞州民主党人表示，他们希望民主党领导层换新面孔。在本次竞选的第一天，我就表态过，我不会投票给舒默参议员担任参议院多数党领袖。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
众议员莫尔顿： 不仅如此，马基还支持舒默，他刚刚从舒默的参议院席位翻转基金中拿走了6.2万美元。这笔钱本是全美民主党人募集的，用于缅因州、俄亥俄州和阿拉斯加州的席位翻转，帮助民主党从共和党手中夺回席位，他却把这笔钱从胜利基金中抽走，用于资助自己的竞选。所以现在，我们确实迫切需要挑战政党领导层，正如你所说，这和我的政治履历一脉相承。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我想问问你另一个曾让你陷入孤立的议题：也就是五年前的本周，在阿富汗撤军的混乱期间，阿比门袭击造成13名军人、170名阿富汗人遇难。你当时曾严厉批评拜登总统的撤军执行方式，还说华盛顿应该为我们让军人陷入的处境感到羞愧。如今，现任总统禁止阿富汗人入境美国，你会采取什么行动来帮助那些被留在当地的人？
众议员莫尔顿： 首先，玛格丽特，我们实际上每天都在幕后处理这个问题，我的办公室——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但进展似乎并不大。
众议员莫尔顿： 听着，我的办公室在处理这类案件、协助人员撤离阿富汗方面积累了丰富经验，我们仅凭一己之力就救出了数十人。而面对这届糟糕的特朗普政府，他们的政策本质上就是种族主义，说白了就是不想让任何非白人进入美国，他们几乎彻底叫停了阿富汗移民项目。所以，我们正在做的第一件事就是继续在幕后工作，联合全国的退伍军人，帮助阿富汗人转移到安全地带。第二件事是在政策层面发声，因为我们必须改变这项政策，从根本上改革移民制度，我们当然应该支持那些不仅为自己国家，也为我们国家和我们的军队并肩作战、不惜付出生命的盟友。但第三件事，也是所有这些行动的核心，是我一直在争取参众两院的多数席位。当马基参议员从胜利基金中抽走资金时，我多年来一直在通过“服务美国”项目募集数百万美元，用于支持那些将在全国范围内翻转席位的民主党候选人。我们已经翻转了——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 哇。
众议员莫尔顿： ——24个共和党席位，将其纳入民主党阵营。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
众议员莫尔顿： 我们需要继续推进这项工作，这样才能赢得多数席位。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好吧。不过我们首先得看看这场党内斗争的结果，初选将在9月1日举行。赛思·莫尔顿会关注事态发展的。感谢你今天抽出时间接受采访。我们稍后回来。
Transcript: Rep. Seth Moulton on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Aug. 23, 2026
2026-08-23T12:06:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Rep. Seth Moulton, Democrat of Massachusetts and Senate primary candidate, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 23, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We’re going to turn now to another congressman, and that is Seth Moulton, who joins us from Salem, Massachusetts. And Congressman Moulton wants to be Senator Moulton. He’s launched a primary challenge to Ed Markey. Good to have you on the program, Congressman. The last–
REPRESENTATIVE SETH MOULTON: Good to see you, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Last time we saw a young challenger go after Senator Markey’s seat, Markey won. How do you get the partisan enthusiast to show up for you when he’s got Senator Bernie Sanders and AOC behind him?
REP. MOULTON: Well, as the Boston Globe said in endorsing me, which was a switch for them, by the way, because they endorsed Senator Markey six years ago. The future is now. The world has changed, and Senator Markey is very much running the same campaign he did back in ’20 when all those same people endorsed him. But in the last debate that we just had this week, he explained to Massachusetts voters that he can’t understand the different apps on his phone. He doesn’t know which ones use AI, and then he tried to clean it up by explaining that AI is like an automobile, and we need to regulate it the way we regulate seatbelts. So, the point is, the world has just moved on. It’s not a personal thing with Ed Markey. In fact, he and I agree on most policies. It’s about whether one Senate seat should–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REP. MOULTON: –belong to one person while the world is moving on without him. He’s been there for- he’s been in Washington for 50 years, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah, and you have focused on that need for generational change for some time. You tried to oust Nancy Pelosi from leadership in 2016, 2018. You pushed then for generational change. You ran for president in 2019. In 2024, you were the third member of Congress to say Biden should not run again. So, big picture, it looks like you’ve been saying the Democratic Party has been on the wrong path for a very long time.
REP. MOULTON: Yes, that’s fair. I mean, this is very authentic to me. From the very first time I ran for Congress against a nine-term incumbent in my own party and had many of those same establishment endorsers of Ed Markey campaigning against me, I’ve been willing to challenge the establishment when I don’t think it’s getting the job done. And I’ll be the first to admit that it’s not always popular, right? It doesn’t always resonate with people. But right now, it’s desperately needed. More than seven out of 10 Democrats in Massachusetts say they want new Democratic Party leadership. On day one of this campaign, I said I’m not going to vote for Senator Schumer for senator leader- for Senate leader.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REP. MOULTON: Well, not only is Markey supporting Schumer, he just took $62,000 from Schumer’s fund to flip Senate seats. Money that Democrats raised across the country to go to Maine and Ohio and Alaska to flip said seats from red to blue, he took that away from that victory fund to bail out his own campaign. So, this is just a time when we do desperately need to challenge party leadership, and it is, as you said, very authentic to my history.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about something you were also out on a limb on, and that was five years ago this week, 13 service people, 170 Afghans, were killed in the attack on Abbey Gate during that chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. You were very critical of President Biden and how he carried that out. And you said Washington should be ashamed of the position we put our service members in. Right now, the current president has banned Afghans from entering this country. What are you going to do to help those people left behind?
REP. MOULTON: Well, first of all, we’re literally working on this issue every single day, Margaret, behind the scenes, and my office got–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Not much is happening though.
REP. MOULTON: Look, my office got so much experience working with all these cases and trying to get individuals out of Afghanistan, we were able to, on our own, just rescue dozens and dozens ourselves. And in- in the face of this horrific Trump administration, where their policies are basically just racist, essentially, in saying that they don’t want anybody who doesn’t- isn’t a white person coming into America, they are basically ground the immigration program from Afghanistan to a halt. So, the first thing we’re doing is behind the scenes, we’re still working with veterans from across the country to get Afghans to safety. The second thing we’re doing is we’re fighting on policy because we have to change this policy, we have to fundamentally reform immigration, and of course we should support the allies who put their lives on the line, not just for their country, but for ours, alongside our troops. But the third thing I’m doing, which is really the- the key point here with all of this, is I’m fighting to get majorities in the House and the Senate. While Senator Markey is taking money away from the Victory Fund, I’m raising millions of dollars through Serve America, as I have for years, to support Democrats who are going to flip seats across the country. We’ve already flipped–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Wow.
REP. MOULTON: –24 seats from red to blue.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REP. MOULTON: We need to continue that work so we win majorities.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All right. Well- well, we’ll see because you got this interparty fight first, September 1st. Seth Moulton will be watching what happens. Thank you for your time today. We’ll be right. Back.
2026-08-23T12:20:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
以下是美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心管理员穆罕默德·奥兹医生的采访实录，该采访于2026年8月23日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目中播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 现在我们邀请到了美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心管理员穆罕默德·奥兹医生。欢迎再次来到《直面国家》。
穆罕默德·奥兹医生： 感谢邀请我来。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 目前有一个不争的事实，医疗成本预计将在2027年上升，这是民众最关心的问题。从我们的民调来看，普通美国人在经济方面的担忧主要就源于此。不过也有好消息，我知道您关注到了这一点：根据7月份的消费者价格指数，药品价格同比下降了3.1%。当然这并非所有药品都降价，仿制药在其中发挥了作用。我知道本届政府想要为此邀功，但您能否为我们做一些展望？我们是否会看到药品价格进一步下降？如果会，会在哪些领域、下降多少、哪些人群将获益？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我认为药品价格会持续下降。这正是我们所期望的。需要明确的是，这是美国人最担心的医疗成本问题，因为这笔费用要从他们自己的口袋里掏出来。我们来把这件事放在具体情境中看：如果你现在待在家里，因为医生开了药而去药店，尤其是那些有望改善你生活质量的品牌药，大概每三次里就有一次，你会空手而归，因为你买不起这种药。现在，当你看到药品价格在过去一年里下降的速度——这是63年来最快的降幅，而且还在加速，这也是我相信价格会继续下跌的原因——这种情况正在改变现状。现在的问题是为什么会这样？这是怎么发生的？其中一个现实是，我们会从药店空手而归，是因为我们的药品价格比其他国家贵得多。总统早就意识到了这一点，并且为此困扰多年。真正的问题是，我们为什么没有早点解决这个问题？
所以在本届政府刚上台时，总统就给了我们非常明确的指令，因为这类政策需要时间来推进。他说：“我不希望你们损害制药行业的生产力、创造力和创新能力，但他们不能对完全相同的产品收取比欧洲或亚洲高三倍的费用，哪怕这些产品往往是在美国工厂生产的。”于是我们着手解决这个问题。“最惠国药品定价”政策就是这项工作的成果。我们不是在告诉公司他们可以收取多少费用，而是说，无论你在海外收取多少钱，你在这里也必须收取同样的价格。再也不能有这种全球“搭便车”的行为了。值得庆幸的是，代表了85%制药行业的17家公司都同意了这项政策。好消息是，他们在华尔街的市值实际上反而上升了，因为市场需要稳定性。我们想要的是为美国民众提供更实惠的价格，我们做到了。
而且需要说明的是，我们目前看到的日益增长的储蓄，以及我们即将获得的额外储蓄，主要不仅得益于最惠国定价的药品，还得益于特朗普医保网站（TrumpRx.gov）提供的药品可及性，这一影响是极其巨大的。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好吧，你知道，更多的民众想要了解更多信息，但这些协议并没有被公开。议员们对此存在一些疑问。我看到有报道称，17家制药商同意了这些最惠国定价，但医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心的受益人目前还无法完全使用这些项目。他们什么时候才能用上？价格能便宜多少？具体是哪些药品？
奥兹医生： 嗯，医疗保险受益人正在快速获得这些项目的使用权。顺便说一句，我们想要将这项政策正式写入法律——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但他们目前还无法使用这个项目——
奥兹医生： 不，他们可以。他们确实可以。比如说GLP-1类药物，也就是总统所说的“减肥针”，现在符合条件的医疗保险受益人每月只需支付50美元就能买到。玛格丽特，在本届政府上台前，这类药物每月的费用超过1000美元。这正是推动节省大量开支的原因。顺便说一句，这是所有药品中用量最大的类别。你猜现在美国GLP-1类药物用量最高的邮政编码区域是哪里？是曼哈顿上东区。富人们为了周末去汉普顿时看起来更光鲜，会使用这些药物。但真正需要它们的人，也就是超重的老年人们，现在终于第一次买得起这些药了。每月50美元意味着你可以采取措施帮助自己减重、降低血压、改善糖尿病，那些原本会产生的后续医疗成本也将不复存在。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 所以你是说，他们已经可以完全使用这些药物了？而且不只是GLP-1类药物？
奥兹医生： 医疗保险受益人已经可以完全使用部分药物，比如 fertility drugs（ Fertility medications， Fertility drugs 这里指生育类药物，译者注：生育药物）。不过这类药物的需求并没有那么大，尽管生育药物的价格已经下降了90%。我们已经按照合理的方式推出了这些药物，而且我之所以持乐观态度，原因就在于此：未来美国所有大型公司推出的新药都将采用最惠国药品定价。所以我们的情况会越来越好。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 所以你本周早些时候在接受我的同事梅杰·加勒特的哥伦比亚广播公司采访时承认，拜登政府2022年通过的允许医疗保险机构与制药商议价的法律对你开展这项工作很有帮助，相当于为我们打开了大门。我记得当时很多人担心并批评这项法律，说它会损害创新、损害市场。你现在是如何看待这项法律的，又是如何确保它不会带来那些负面影响的？
奥兹医生： 《通胀削减法案》——也就是推动这项工作的法律——的风险在于，它可能会迫使企业做他们不愿意做的事情，以至于他们会停止创新。现在避免这种情况的方法就是与这些公司进行公平谈判。该法案实施的第一年，在节省开支方面效果并不显著。过去这一年，我们在定价方面采取了积极行动，但同样是以公平的方式进行，因此我们得以让美国民众的节省金额翻倍。我想指出的是，药品价格和可负担性是两党都受益的议题。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 共和党人和民主党人都需要使用药物。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 我们想要动用工具箱里的所有工具来实现这一目标。毫无疑问，特朗普医保网站的最惠国药品定价政策是主要推动力，其效果远超其他任何现有举措。但我们也会使用所有可用的工具，包括这些议价机制。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们一直在谈论联邦债务，目前已经达到40万亿美元。医疗保险受托人预测，该基金将在7年内耗尽，届时支付金额将削减11%。这是根据负责任联邦预算委员会的数据得出的结论。我知道你们一直在努力减少浪费、欺诈和滥用行为，但即便做好了这些内务工作，你们仍然面临着严峻的财政问题。有共和党议员希望白宫采取更多行动，他们对此提出了要求——你们的计划是什么？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我们的计划是《伟大美国医疗法案》，其中将包括将最惠国药品定价政策正式纳入法律，这将有所帮助。浪费、欺诈和滥用的问题确实很重要。我就用你刚才提到的医疗保险信托基金资不抵债的情况来举例说明：按照目前的情况，资不抵债将在6到7年内发生，但如果我们能清除医疗保险中的欺诈行为，这个时间可以延长一倍。想想看——仅仅清除欺诈行为，就能让福利发放年限增加一倍。其他都不用做，光是这一点就足够了。就在过去一年里，我们通过从源头上杜绝资金外流，从医疗保险中砍掉了420亿美元的欺诈资金，而且我们在耐用医疗设备欺诈方面通过全国性禁令取得了显著的改善。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 420亿美元。联邦政府在医疗保险上的支出是1.2万亿美元。
奥兹医生： 这还只是开始。那是去年的数据，我们还没有完全达到全速运转的状态。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 但我想指出一个现实，这一点很重要：欺诈不仅会偷走资金，还会偷走我们的信任。有些州没有与我们密切合作解决这些问题，原因在于，在某些情况下，我们眼中的欺诈行为，对这些州来说实际上是一种“特色服务”。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但你也承认，虽然这项重要工作必不可少，但不足以解决这个巨大的财政问题——
奥兹医生： 更大的好处在于——
玛格丽特·布伦南： ——所以需要采取更多行动。除了中期选举之后，也就是明年1月之后，有没有相关的实施计划？
奥兹医生： 我可以告诉你我们已经在推进的计划。毫无疑问，另一个更大的节省开支的机会是利用技术，包括人工智能。如今50%的医生使用人工智能来减轻官僚负担、处理文书工作。50%的医生使用人工智能来获取更好的诊疗建议，以便为患者提供服务。我们机构内由艾米·格利森领导的医疗技术生态系统已经在招募合作方方面取得了巨大成效——你听说过的每家公司都加入了我们。目前已有800家公司承诺参与其中。我给你一个具体的数字。去年我坐在这里和你对话的时候——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： ——只有5%的美国人能够访问自己的医疗记录，以便在任何地方使用这些记录，包括将其纳入人工智能前沿模型。如今这一比例已经超过了50%。我们正在彻底改变信息在系统中的流通方式，这是一件大事，因为过去人们会设置壁垒、封锁数据，因为这样他们能从中获利。我们不会允许这种情况发生。我们正在强化相关规则，而总统推动了这些变革——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的。
奥兹医生： ——通过行政命令要求提供医疗服务的机构同时向患者提供医疗记录，因为你知道谁才是医疗记录的所有者吗？
玛格丽特·布伦南： 是的
奥兹医生： 你，患者，因为是你为这些记录买单的。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错，但我刚才说的是政府开支。不过我们换个话题，谈谈如何让人们保持健康。美国疾病控制与预防中心上周发布的新数据显示，上一学年全国92%的幼儿园儿童接种了麻疹疫苗，但这低于95%的群体免疫阈值。本届政府已经开始大力鼓励民众接种MMR疫苗，不过特朗普总统也发表过相关言论。我们来听一下。
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唐纳德·特朗普： 分三次接种的疫苗，如果在同一时间接种，可能会存在相当大的致命风险。而分开接种的话，看起来完全不会致命，而且非常有效。所以对于MMR疫苗，我们希望分开接种，分不同的就诊时间和接种时间。
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玛格丽特·布伦南： 总统两次表示这类疫苗可能致命。你是否想要澄清这一点？
奥兹医生： 我们希望患者能够接受医生推荐的治疗方案，但我们也希望家长能够自主决定为孩子接种哪些疫苗。我在美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心的职责——
玛格丽特·布伦南： specifically about the MMR vaccine？（特指MMR疫苗？译者注：此处原文为英文，保留以符合访谈语境）
奥兹医生： 关于MMR疫苗，还有所有疫苗。我的职责是——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但他明确提到了MMR疫苗，用了“致命”这个词。这就是我请你澄清的地方。
奥兹医生： MMR疫苗并非致命疫苗，而且在其他国家也有接种。麻疹疫苗本身，比如说在日本，就有单独接种的情况。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 而日本在分开接种后确实出现了一些问题。还增加了成本。那么针对你负责的低收入儿童疫苗项目，这会带来什么影响？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我们会承担所有疫苗的费用——
玛格丽特·布伦南： ——那么具体会怎么做？
奥兹医生： 无论如何，我们都会承担疫苗费用。问题——再次回到一个更根本的议题上，玛格丽特。家长有没有权利提出疑问？我们在新冠疫情期间已经见识过了，当时我们剥夺了家长的这项权利。他们被迫给自己的孩子接种新冠疫苗。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 并没有联邦强制要求给孩子接种新冠疫苗。
奥兹医生： 嗯，他们被强烈推动接种，而且经常会因为孩子没有接种这些疫苗而无法参与社交活动。作为一个国家，我们应该——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 根本就没有联邦强制令。
奥兹医生： 不，当然这不是联邦政府说了算。这由各州决定。各州负责制定相关政策。总统的要求是，确保各州为家长提供选择的余地，无论是出于宗教信仰还是其他原因，让家长可以选择不让孩子按常规程序接种所有疫苗。我们举一个具体的例子：乙肝疫苗。我个人就接种过乙肝疫苗，它有助于成年人避免相关问题——比如说我作为医生，如果被患者使用过的针头扎到，但通常这类疫苗是针对吸毒者和有相关暴露风险的人群的——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 或者是婴儿可能会被照顾者、家里的其他人、无意中接触到病毒的父母感染，这也是为什么建议儿童接种的原因——
奥兹医生： 这种情况极其罕见，而且很难仅仅基于这种可能性就设计出一个完整的疫苗接种项目。现实情况是，如果一位家长希望将孩子出生时就该接种的疫苗推迟几年，因为他们认为孩子不会处于那些高风险类别中，为什么不给家长这个选择呢？再说一遍，无论如何，我们都会承担费用。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好吧，我们会和一位州长候选人聊聊他是否会在他的州改变这项政策，因为这是各州的权限，但我们今天的访谈就到这里。我们马上回来。请继续收看。
Transcript: Dr. Mehmet Oz on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Aug. 23, 2026
2026-08-23T12:20:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of an interview with Dr. Mehmet Oz, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services administrator, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 23, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we are joined now by the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Dr. Mehmet Oz. Welcome back to Face the Nation.
DR. MEHMET OZ: Thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It is unquestionable here that healthcare costs are projected to rise in 2027, and this is a top concern. We see it in our polling in terms of economic worry for the average American. There’s some good news, and I know you’re watching this portion of it. There’s this 3.1% drop year-over-year in drug prices, according to the Consumer Price Index for the month of July. Now that’s not all drugs and generics played a role here. I know the administration wants to take credit for it, but can you give us some projection here? Are we going to see a further drop in drug prices, and if so, where, how much, who’s going to benefit?
DR. OZ: Well, I think drug prices are going to continue to drop. This is just what the doctor ordered. To be clear, this is the number one issue that Americans fear about healthcare costs because it comes out of their pocket. So let’s put this in context. If you’re sitting at home right now and you go to a drugstore because a doctor prescribed a medication, especially a branded product that might change your life for the better, hopefully. One in three times, roughly, you will leave empty-handed because you can’t afford the medication. Now, when you see drug prices drop as fast as they have over the past year- the fastest drop we’ve had in 63 years and it’s accelerating, which is why I’m confident that it’s going to continue. You change that dynamic. Now, the question is why? How did that happen? And one of the realities is that we leave empty-handed from the drugstore because our drugs cost much more than they cost in other countries. And the president recognizes, and it really bothered him, and it has for years. The real question is why didn’t we deal with it earlier? So the president gave us a very clear mandate at the very beginning of the administration because these processes take time. He said, “I don’t want you to hurt productivity, creativity, innovation in the pharmaceutical sector, but they are not allowed to charge three times more for the exact same products made often in U.S. facilities than they pay in Europe or Asia.” So we went after this issue. Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing is the result. We’re not telling companies what they can charge. We’re saying, whatever you charge overseas, you got to charge here. No more of this global freeloading. And thankfully, the 17 companies representing 85% of the drug sector all came on board. And here’s the good news, their market capitalization on Wall Street actually went up because they- the market wants stability. What we want is better prices for the American people, and we got it. And just to put it in context, this increasing savings that we’re seeing, the additional amount of savings we’re getting, primarily driven not just by having the medications at Most-Favored-Nation pricing, but available to the American people and TrumpRx.gov, is seismic in its nature.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, you know, more people want more information, and these deals aren’t being published. There’s some questions from lawmakers about it. I’ve seen reporting that 17 drug makers agreed to these Most-Favored-Nation prices, but that Medicare and Medicaid recipients don’t yet get full access to the programs. When will they? How much cheaper will it be? What kind of drugs?
DR. OZ: Well, Medicare beneficiaries are rapidly getting access to these deals. By the way, we want to codify–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But they don’t have access to this program–
DR. OZ: No, they do. They do. For example, the GLP-1 medications, the so-called “fat shot,” as the president calls them, they’re now available to eligible Medicare beneficiaries for $50 a month. Margaret, these drugs were over $1,000 a month before we came in this administration. So that’s driving a lot of the savings. That’s the number one category, by the way, of all drugs. And guess where the number one zip code is for GLP-1s today in America? It’s the Upper East Side of Manhattan. The rich people get access to these drugs because they want to look better when they go out to the Hamptons for the weekend. But the people who need them, the seniors who are overweight, can now, for the first time, afford these drugs. $50 a month means you can do something to help yourself lose weight, reduce blood pressure, reduce diabetes, and all the downstream costs that would have been incurred no longer happen.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, they have full access, is what you’re saying. It’s not just the GLP-1s.
DR. OZ: Medicare beneficiaries have full access to some of the drugs, like the fertility drugs. They don’t need those quite as much, even though fertility drugs are down 90%. So we have delivered these medications as they make sense, and going forward- this is the reason I’m optimistic- all new drugs released in America from these large companies will be at Most-Favored-Nation drug pricing. So we will get better and better and better.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you acknowledged earlier this week in an interview with my colleague Major Garrett on CBS that that Biden-era 2022 law that allowed Medicare to haggle with drug makers was helpful to you in this. That that was kind of part of opening the door. I remember at that time there was a lot of concern and criticism about that law- that it would hurt innovation, that it would hurt the pub- the marketplace. How is it that you are now embracing it and making sure that it’s not doing that?
DR. OZ: The risks of the IRA, which is the- the law that drove this, is that it’ll coerce companies to do things they don’t want to do, so they’ll just stop innovating. Now, the way you avoid that is by negotiating fairly with these companies. The first year of the program it wasn’t actually that effective in saving money. This past year, we got aggressive in the pricing, but again, doing it in a fair way, so we’re able to double the savings for the American people. I want to point out that drug prices and affordability are bipartisan beneficial issues.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
DR. OZ: There are Republicans and Democrats use medications.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
DR. OZ: We want to use every tool we have in our toolkit to get there. There’s no question that the TrumpRX.gov Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing is the major driver. It dwarfs any other opportunity out there. But every tool I have, including these negotiations, we will use.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ve been talking about the national debt, $40 trillion. Medicare Trustees project- projects that it’ll be insolvent in seven years, and that at that point payments would be cut 11%. That’s according to the Committee for a Responsible Budget. I know you’re trying to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse, but even with that housekeeping, you got a significant problem here. There are Republican lawmakers who want the White House to do more, who are asking for it- what’s the plan?
DR. OZ: Well, the plan is the Great American Health Act, and that is going to include codifying the Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing, which helps. The fraud, waste, and abuse issue is- is important. I’ll just put it in the context of what you just gave me: the insolvency of the Medicare trust fund, which is going to happen in six to seven years, it’ll last twice as long. Think about that- twice as many years of benefits if we just take the fraud out of Medicare. Forget about everything else. Just this past year, we cut $42 billion of fraud from Medicare by never leaving the money out of the door, and that is- those are kinds of benefits we’re seeing a dramatic changes in durable medical equipment fraud by a nationwide moratorium.
MARGARET BRENNAN: 42 billion. The federal government paid 1.2 trillion on Medicare.
DR. OZ: That’s just the beginning. That was last year. We hadn’t even gotten to full speed.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: But let me just point one reality out. This is important. The fraud doesn’t just steal money; it steals our trust. And we have states that are not working closely with us on these issues, and that’s because in some cases, what’s fraud to us objectively is actually a feature for the states.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you’re acknowledging that while important work is not sufficient to that massive financial problem–
DR. OZ: The even bigger benefit–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –that more needs to be done. Is there a plan to do so past the midterms in- after January?
DR. OZ: I’ll give you the plan we’re already acting on. Without question, what’s even bigger as an opportunity to save us money is the use of technology, including artificial intelligence. 50% of doctors today use artificial intelligence to reduce bureaucratic load, take care of the paperwork. 50% of doctors use it to get better advice that they give to their patients. We have a health tech ecosystem run by Amy Gleason within our agency, that has been massively effective in recruiting- every company you have ever heard of has joined us. 800 companies in a pledge to participate. I’ll give you one hard number. Last year, when I would sit here with you–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –5% of Americans had access to their medical records so they could use them wherever they wanted, including putting them in- in an AI frontier model. Today it’s over 50%. We’re dramatically changing how information flows to the system, and this is a big deal because historically people put–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –gates down, they block data because they were making money. We’re not allowing that. We’re enforcing the rules, and the president drove these changes–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
DR. OZ: –and executive orders that demand that people providing healthcare also provide the medical records to you because you know who owns the medical records?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah
DR. OZ: You, the patient, because you’re paying for them.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, but I’m talking about government spending. But let me ask you about something else, and that’s keeping people healthy. The CDC released new numbers last week showing 92% of the nation’s kindergartners were vaccinated for measles in the last school year, but that’s below the 95% herd immunity threshold. Now, the administration has started really encouraging people to get the MMR vaccine, but President Trump also said this. Take a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP: In three separate vaccinations, given at separate times, together there could be a possibility they’re quite lethal, And separately, it looks like they are not at all lethal, but just very effective. So the MMR, we want to have separate, separate visits, separate times.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: The president twice said the shot may be lethal. Do you want to clarify that?
DR. OZ: We want patients to get the treatments that their doctors are recommending to them, but we also want parents to have the autonomy to decide what their kids receive. My job at CMS–
MARGARET BRENNAN: On the MMR vaccine, specifically?
DR. OZ: On the MMR vaccine, but all the vaccines. My job is to–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But he said it was the MMR vaccine, he used the term “lethal.” That’s what I’m asking you to clarify.
DR. OZ: The president wants Americans, and he said this many times, to get vaccinated as their doctors recommend, as long as they have a choice in the matter, the challenge we’re running into is that many states have not clarified that, and actually, it’s harder for parents to ask these difficult questions. And Margaret, here’s the real issue–
MARGARET BRENNAN: The MMR vaccine is not offered in three separate shots. Merck, which produces it, said they couldn’t offer that for another 10 years. Currently, it is only offered as a single shot. The president called that single shot lethal. Do you want to clarify that?
DR. OZ: No, the MMR vaccine is not a lethal vaccine, and it is offered in other countries. The measles, in particular, separately, like in Japan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And they had problems with it in Japan once they started separating things out.
DR. OZ: Well, that’s–
MARGARET BRENNAN: And it’s increased costs. So for like the vaccines for kids program that you run for low-income kids–
DR. OZ: Well, we’re going to pay–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –what is it going to do to them?
DR. OZ: We’re going to pay for the vaccines no matter what. The question- again, this comes back to a much more fundamental issue, Margaret. Do parents have the right to ask questions? We already experienced what happened during COVID when we took away that right from parents. They were forced to give their kids COVID vaccines.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They were not forced to give their kids COVID vaccines.
DR. OZ: Well, they were- they were pushed hard and oftentimes hindered from doing what they wanted to do, like going out socially if their kids were not included in these programs. What we should, as a nation–
MARGARET BRENNAN: There was no federal mandate.
DR. OZ: No, of course, it’s not up to the state. It’s not up to the federal government. It’s up to the state. States do this. The request of the president is to make sure that states offer parents either eligibility because of religious beliefs or other reasons why they may not want to have their kids take all the vaccines in order. Let’s pick a specific example: hepatitis B. Hepatitis B is a vaccine. I happen to like. I got the hepatitis B vaccine, but it helps adults avoiding issues if they’re involved- for example, my case as a doctor, if I just hit myself with a needle with a patient, but usually it’s for drug abusers and for people who are involved in–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Or infants who could be exposed by a caregiver, by someone in their house, by a parent unwittingly, which is why it provided children–
DR. OZ: Extraordinarily- extraordinarily rare, and it’s hard to design an entire program around just that possibility. The reality is, if a parent wants to delay this vaccine from the hour the child is born–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –for a few years because they don’t think they’re going to be in those high-risk categories, why not give the parent that choice? Again, we’re going to pay for it no matter what.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, and we’ll talk to a gubernatorial candidate about whether he’s going to change that in his state, since it’s up to states, but we’ll have to leave that here. We’ll be right back. Stay with us.
文字记录：佛罗里达州共和党众议员拜伦·唐纳兹做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对全国》节目，2026年8月23日
2026-08-23T12:26:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
以下是佛罗里达州共和党众议员、佛罗里达州州长候选人拜伦·唐纳兹的采访文字记录，该采访于2026年8月23日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对全国》节目中播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 接下来我们有请佛罗里达州共和党众议员拜伦·唐纳兹。他同时也是该州现任州长候选人。欢迎来到《面对全国》。
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 早上好，玛格丽特。很高兴来到这里。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 你现在是在职众议员，但你竞选的这个职位将让你成为美国第三大州的行政首长，届时你将在包括医疗政策在内的诸多事务上拥有大量决策权。我想就此向你提问，佛罗里达州一直走在取消疫苗强制令的浪潮前沿。在你的州，卫生部可以修改部分疫苗强制令，比如脊髓灰质炎和麻疹腮腺炎风疹联合疫苗，这些疫苗在佛罗里达州法律中是强制接种的。如果你当选，你是否会前往卫生部和州议会，提议废除这些强制令？如果会，具体是哪些？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 首先，玛格丽特，很高兴再次和你对话。第一，我知道德桑蒂斯州长和我们的卫生局局长拉帕多医生已经在疫苗相关规则制定上采取了行动，本质上是赋予父母为子女决定是否接种疫苗的权利。我赞同这一决定。说到脊髓灰质炎、麻疹腮腺炎风疹疫苗，我们需要先进行研究、充分征询意见，再做出相关决定，并会在对这些疫苗的强制要求做出任何调整前与州议会沟通。我认为还需要指出的是，特朗普总统确实推动了疫苗接种计划的拓展，坦率地说，也扭转了此前围绕疫苗接种时间表的集中强制做法。我知道我的长子今年22岁，他当年的疫苗接种时间表和如今的儿童疫苗接种时间表大不相同，因此我认为分散疫苗接种计划确实合理，这能让婴儿的身体有能力吸收和应对疫苗接种的频次。但如果我们谈论医疗保健，佛罗里达州面临的更大问题是成本。首先，《平价医疗法案》对佛罗里达人来说并不奏效。自该法案通过以来的15年里，我们见证了保费大幅上涨，免赔额也在过去15年里一路失控。因此，当前美国《平价医疗法案》框架下的医疗保险体系，无论对佛罗里达家庭还是全美其他地区的家庭来说都行不通。这就是为什么我的提案核心是价格透明化。我们要求医生诊所和医院公布其提供的前20项服务的实际现金价格，这样佛罗里达人就能了解真实的价格和成本，自主选择就医机构。我认为相比单纯讨论疫苗接种，这是一场更具建设性的、关于降低医疗成本和稳定价格的对话。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错，但这也无法解决民众的医保覆盖问题或他们的支付能力。不过我理解你的观点。我相信很多人都希望了解自己的就医成本。但就保障民众健康而言，佛罗里达州几乎所有地区的麻疹群体免疫接种率都低于95%。那么你想对佛罗里达的家长们传达的信息是，让你的孩子接种麻疹疫苗吗？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 不，实际上，我想对佛罗里达人，坦率地说，对所有美国人传达的是，美国部分地区暴发麻疹疫情的原因，是上一届政府执政期间猖獗的非法入境活动。玛格丽特，在乔·拜登就职之前，我们的边境基本是安全的。（对话中断）
玛格丽特·布伦南： 你有什么证据支持这一说法？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 玛格丽特，我们在得克萨斯州埃尔帕索、我所在的佛罗里达州西南部以及其他许多地区都见过这类疫情暴发。在那些地方，非法入境的人员没有按规定完成疫苗接种，而不是如今家长们有所顾虑的儿童疫苗。（对话中断）
玛格丽特·布伦南： 所以你希望他们接种疫苗？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 我指的是那些过去甚至没有接种过麻疹、腮腺炎和风疹疫苗的人群。关键在于，第一，你必须管控本国的入境移民。你不能让超过1000万没有完成疫苗接种计划的人员非法进入美国，这正是部分地区暴发这类疫情的原因。这是首要问题。但第二，我可以跟你聊聊疫苗接种，但医疗保健真正的核心问题是美国民众和佛罗里达人的医疗成本。我们已经看到，《平价医疗法案》的监管框架正在推高所有美国人的医疗成本，这也是我作为佛罗里达州下一任州长想要重点解决的问题。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的，那么你希望移民接种疫苗？那我来问问你相关的移民情况。目前有15.8万名持有临时保护身份（简称TPS）的海地裔合法居民居住在佛罗里达州，直到特朗普政府终止了该项目。说到海地，美国国务院告诉美国人不要以任何理由前往海地，那里有犯罪、恐怖主义，没有医疗保障，还存在绑架事件。你曾说过TPS项目只是一项临时庇护措施，但我刚才列举的那些海地的状况，难道不正是需要提供临时庇护的理由吗？难道不应该提供一些保护吗？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 好吧，玛格丽特，首先我们具体谈谈海地的情况。我实际上已经与海地过渡政府及其大使进行了会面。他们目前正在组建安全部队，以稳定海地局势。他们已经基本控制了该国四分之一到一半的地区，那些此前被帮派占领的区域，这是第一点。第二，你刚才也提到了，TPS是一项临时项目。拜登政府通过执法行动取消了该项目的“临时”属性，将其变成了一项永久项目。更不用说“捕获即释放”政策，以及他们如何滥用庇护制度，不让真正符合条件的庇护申请进入美国。他们彻底搞砸了边境政策，超过1000万人涌入我国。因此，移民政策必须有标准。在我看来，特朗普政府将其定为临时项目的做法是正确的。但我们也在与过渡政府合作，确保海地组建合适的安全部队以稳定该国局势，这整个过程需要时间。在移民问题上，你不能说任何项目都可以无限期持续下去，没有终止期限，因为一旦这么做，就会削弱人们返回家园、稳定国家并恢复正常秩序的动力。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我理解你的观点，希望你那边的耳机没问题，卡洛斯众议员。好了，卡洛斯·希梅内斯，你的佛罗里达同僚曾表示，驱逐持有TPS的海地裔居民对佛罗里达州来说是一个巨大的错误。另一位佛罗里达共和党议员玛丽亚·埃尔维拉·萨拉查说，这些TPS持有者是佛罗里达州医疗保健等关键行业劳动力的中坚力量。那么，如果这些约10万名在佛罗里达州医疗行业工作的海地裔居民被驱逐，你有什么计划来填补劳动力缺口？
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 好吧，我们先明确一下，你谈论的是佛罗里达州的劳动力。我们想要做的是，首先，确保我们的高中毕业生能够获得实习、学徒机会以及必要的职业培训，以便能够在医疗保健或其他任何行业工作。目前，大约三分之一到一半的孩子会进入大学系统，而剩下的一半孩子，坦率地说，目前没有任何策略或计划能帮助他们获得成功。这就是为什么我在佛罗里达州推出了“启动平台”计划，如果你是高中低年级或高年级学生，你可以参与这些学徒和实习项目，这样在你高中毕业时，就能直接入职。（对话中断）
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但当前医疗行业的劳动力短缺是即时性的。（对话中断）
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 等一下，玛格丽特。等一下，玛格丽特。第一，等一下，玛格丽特。第二，第二点。佛罗里达州有很多岗位空缺。我们希望改革成人再教育、成人教育和职业介绍服务，让这些项目充分发挥作用，帮助人们转行进入相关领域。这是第二点。第三，这也是一个更广泛的美国问题。你不能让我国的边境大门彻底敞开，然后又说“我们需要这个领域或那个领域的人才”，却没有连贯一致的移民政策。因此，你所说的很多问题，根源都在于拜登政府在移民问题上的糟糕决策——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我问的是你的计划。
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 坦率地说，还有像安吉·尼克松、大卫·乔利这样的民主党人的政策。这就是我们面临的问题，我们必须在移民和入籍方面建立稳定的标准，这需要遵守法律，而不是让民主党人无视我们的法律，纵容非法入境，然后再去解决由此产生的种种问题。（对话中断）
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错，那是联邦层面的问题。我想问的是，你作为州级官员，有什么计划来弥补即将被驱逐的医疗行业劳动力缺口。
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 玛格丽特，我刚刚已经向你说明了我的计划，玛格丽特。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我听明白了，但这可能需要一段时间。我们的时间差不多了。
拜伦·唐纳兹众议员： 是的，玛格丽特，我刚刚已经给出了我的计划。但同时我也是国会众议员，所以我们必须在移民问题上建立标准，同时确保我们当下在校的学生和在职的年轻人能够有机会进入这些领域和职业，赚到足够的钱，为自己实现美国梦。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们会关注你的竞选活动。非常感谢你，唐纳兹众议员，祝你11月的州长竞选顺利。
Transcript: Rep. Byron Donalds on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Aug. 23, 2026
2026-08-23T12:26:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Rep. Byron Donalds, Republican of Florida and candidate for Florida governor, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 23, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds. He’s also now his party’s gubernatorial nominee in the Sunshine State. Welcome to Face the Nation.
REP BYRON DONALDS: Good morning, Margaret. Good to be with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you’re a sitting congressman, but this job that you are running for would make you the chief executive of the third largest state in the country, so you’ll have a lot of decision-making power over a number of things, including health policy. And I want to ask you about that because Florida has been at the forefront of this push to roll back vaccine mandates. In your state, the Department of Health can change some others, like polio and MMR vaccines, are mandated under Florida law. If you’re elected, are you going to go to the Department of Health and the state legislature and ask for repeals? If so, which ones?
REP BYRON DONALDS: Well, first of all, Margaret, it’s good to be with you. Number one, I know that Governor DeSantis and and our Surgeon General Dr. Ladapo have already made moves on the rulemaking vaccines, the one, and put those under essentially giving parents the ability to make those decisions for their children. I agree with that decision. When it comes to polio, MMR, those are things that we want to make sure we study and really engage in before we make those determinations and work with the legislature before we make any of those decisions about requirements for those vaccines. I think it’s important also to note that President Trump did allow for expansion and, really, quite frankly, reversing the concentration around the vaccine schedule. I know that my oldest son, he’s 22 years old. The vaccination schedule for him was very different for kids today, and so spreading out that vaccination schedule, I think, does make sense. It gives an infant human body the ability to actually absorb and deal with that that rate of vaccination. But if we’re going to talk healthcare, the bigger issue we have in the state of Florida is costs. And number one, the Affordable Care Act is not working for Floridians. We have seen premiums jump over the last 15 years since it passed. Deductibles—out of control for the last 15 years, and so the current structure of health insurance in our country under the Affordable Care Act is not working is not working for families, whether it’s Florida or anywhere else in the United States. This is why my proposal is price transparency. We want doctors’ offices and hospitals to post a real cash price for the top 20 services that they provide. So Floridians have an opportunity to see the real price, see the real cost, and make determinations about where they get their health care. I think that’s much more of a constructive conversation about costs in healthcare and trying to stabilize prices than just simply vaccinations.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, but that also doesn’t address coverage for them or how they pay for them. But I hear you. I’m sure a lot of people would like to know what they’re paying. But in terms of keeping people healthy, nearly all of Florida is below the 95% immunization rate for herd immunity for measles. So, is your message to Florida parents, get your kids vaccinated against that one?
REP BYRON DONALDS: No, actually, my message to Floridians and, quite frankly, to Americans is the reason why we have seen a measles outbreak in certain parts of the country is because of rampant illegal immigration into the United States from the previous administration. Margaret, before Joe Biden came to office, when our borders were basically secure (CROSSTALK)
MARGARET BRENNAN: What evidence do you have of that?
REP BYRON DONALDS: Margaret, we’ve seen the outbreaks in El Paso, Texas, in Southwest Florida, where I live, and many other parts where you know that you have a situation. People have come into the country illegally, have not had that vaccination schedule, and not the ones today on young kids that parents do have concerns about. (CROSSTALK)
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you want them to be vaccinated?
REP BYRON DONALDS: I’m talking about previous ones where people weren’t even getting measles vaccine or mumps and rubella. So the key thing is, you number one, you got to control immigration into your country. You can’t have an entire segment of people more than 10 million coming to your country without that vaccination schedule. That’s how you end up having some of these outbreaks. And so that’s number one. But number two, and I will tell you, we could talk vaccinations, but the real issue in healthcare is the cost for Americans and the cost for Floridians, and we have already seen that the regulatory framework of the Affordable Care Act is driving up costs on every American, and that’s what I want to stay focused on as the next governor of Florida.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so you want vaccinated immigrants? Let me ask you about some of those immigrants. There are—
REP BYRON DONALDS: Actually I just want legal immigrants to be clear. I just want legal immigration with assimilation. We cannot have open borders and we cannot have illegal immigration in our country.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about legal immigration. There were 158,000 Haitians legally living in Florida under Temporary Protected Status or TPS until the Trump administration ended that program, You know, when it comes to Haiti, the State Department tells Americans don’t go there for any reason at all. There’s crime, there’s terrorism, there’s no healthcare access, there’s kidnapping. You said that this TPS program was just to be a temporary refuge, but aren’t all those conditions I listed there? The reason you would want temporary refuge shouldn’t there be some protection?
REP BYRON DONALDS: Well, Margaret, number one, let’s be let’s speak specific to Haiti. I’ve actually had meetings with the transitional government and the ambassador for the transitional government. They’re working on security forces right now as we speak to begin to stabilize Haiti, they’ve gotten about a quarter to half of the country under control from the gangs that basically took over Haiti, and that’s number one. Number two, you just said it at the top, TPS is a temporary program. The Biden administration, through through enforcement, took the T off the program. They turned that into a permanent program. Not to mention catch and release. Not to mention how they bastardized asylum and didn’t allow for true asylum cases to come to the United States. They blew up the borders. More than 10 million people came into our country. And so yes, there has to be a standard when it comes to immigration. The Trump administration, in my view, making sure that it’s a temporary program is correct. But we are also working with the transitional government to make sure that the right security forces are in Haiti to stabilize that country. So that entire process is going to take time. What you can’t do in immigration is just say that every program just runs into perpetuity with no end, because once you do that, you have the wrong incentives to make sure that people can return to their home country, stabilize that country, and make sure that it returns to normalcy.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I hear you, and hopefully you have your earpiece in there, Congressman Carlos. Okay, Carlos Giménez, your fellow Floridian, said deporting Haitians under TPS would be a huge mistake for Florida. Another Florida Republican Maria Elvira Salazar says those TPS holders are part of the backbone of our workforce in critical sectors like healthcare. So, do you have a plan to replace the loss of 100,000 Haitians who work in healthcare in Florida if they are deported?
REP BYRON DONALDS: Well, let’s just be very clear. You’re talking about the labor force in Florida. What we want to do is, the number one, we want to make sure that our kids coming out of high school are having internships and apprenticeships and the necessary workforce training to be able to work, whether it’s healthcare or any other job field. Right now, about a third to a half of our kids are going into the college university system. The other half, quite frankly, there is no strategy or plan for them to be successful. This is why I have a launchpad initiative in Florida, where if you’re a junior or a senior in high school, you can actually have those apprenticeships and internships, so that by the time you graduate high school, you’re walking directly into the job. (CROSSTALK)
MARGARET BRENNAN: But this is an immediate shortage of healthcare workers. (CROSSTALK)
REP BYRON DONALDS: Hold on, Margaret. Hold on, Margaret. Number. Hold on, Margaret. Number two, number two. There are jobs available in Florida. We want to change adult re-education, adult education, career source. Have that really be supercharged so people can transition from one job or going into those fields. That’s number two. Number three, and this is a broader American issue. You cannot let the borders of our country be blown wide open, and then talk about well, we need people in this field or that field, and not actually have consistent immigration policy. And so, a lot of what you’re talking about really stems from terrible decisions when it comes to immigration from the Biden administration—
MARGARET BRENNAN: I was asking about your plans.
REP BYRON DONALDS: And quite frankly, from the Democrats like Angie Nixon, like David Jolly. That’s the problem that we are presented with, we have to have a stable standard in immigration and naturalization, and that comes with following the law, not letting Democrats ignore our law, allow for illegal immigration, and look at the problems (CROSSTALK)
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, that’s federal. I was asking your plan in your state to make up for the shortage of healthcare workers that are about to be deported.
REP BYRON DONALDS: Margaret, I just gave you the plan, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I hear you. It could take a while. We’ll have to leave it there.
REP BYRON DONALDS: Yeah, Margaret, I just gave you the plan, but I’m also a member of Congress, and so you have to have a standard for immigration while making sure that our children in our schools today and young people working today have the ability to move into those fields and those careers while making enough money to build the American dream for themselves.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll watch your campaign. Thank you very much, Congressman Donalds, who is standing for gubernatorial race November.
文字实录：明尼阿波利斯联邦储备银行行长兼首席执行官尼尔·卡什卡里做客《玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目，2026年8月23日
2026-08-23T13:03:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
以下是明尼阿波利斯联邦储备银行行长兼首席执行官尼尔·卡什卡里的采访实录，该采访于2026年8月23日在《玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目中播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 想要了解美国经济的下一步走向，我们请到了明尼阿波利斯联邦储备银行行长兼首席执行官尼尔·卡什卡里。欢迎再次来到《直面国家》。
尼尔·卡什卡里： 感谢邀请我，玛格丽特。很高兴能做客节目。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们五月份的对话中，我曾向你询问美国的债务规模问题。你当时表示，没有看到迫在眉睫的危机，但在某个时刻，债务问题会演变成麻烦。如今美国国债规模刚突破40万亿美元，我们是否已经到了债务成患的节点？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 玛格丽特，你看美国国债收益率，比如10年期美债收益率目前高达4.7%。这一水平相对于近期历史来说不算低，但放在更长的美国历史维度来看并不算高。2000年代初，10年期和30年期美债收益率就处于当前这类水平；上世纪90年代，美债收益率比现在还要高得多，而且目前没有迹象表明国债市场出现功能紊乱或金融市场崩溃。美债收益率受诸多因素影响：通胀以及通胀预期是其中之一，这也是美联储的职责所在，但还有其他诸多因素，比如人工智能投资、政府借贷、经济增长。所有这些因素共同作用，决定了长期美债收益率的水平。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但我们确实目睹了此次债券抛售潮，还看到了财政部长斯科特·贝森特采取的非常规干预措施。他称此次市场波动是因为交易员掌握了错误信息。情况真的是这样吗？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 我还是交由财政部长来负责管理国债市场吧，这是财政部的职责。美联储的职责主要是管控通胀相关问题。我们都坚定致力于将通胀率拉回2%的目标，但从长期来看，决定美债收益率的是债务发行、投资、经济增长和生产率等基本面因素。从长期来看，这不仅适用于美国，全球各国的政府债券收益率都是由这些因素决定的。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我理解，作为央行官员，你不想干预财政政策或市场日常波动，但目前市场上有一场辩论，讨论是否有更根本性的转变正在发生。投资者穆罕默德·埃尔-埃利安在《纽约时报》撰文称：“借贷成本出现了惊人的跃升。如果这种情况持续下去，可能标志着一场结构性经济转型的开始，其影响比以往大多数市场波动事件都更持久、更具全球影响力。” 这种说法是不是言过其实了？我们是否正处于一场巨大的转型之中？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 同时发生的影响因素有很多。你也知道，过去几年股市一直非常乐观，市场对人工智能及其有望带来的生产率增长充满期待。对这些市场波动有一种更乐观的解读：债券市场正在追赶股市，债券市场正预示着更高的增长轨迹。如果全球经济即将迎来更高的生产率增长和更快的经济增速，那么全球各地的收益率都会上升。我现在并非要支持这一观点，也不是说这就是正确的解读。不过，全球范围内债券收益率上升确实存在多种可能的解释。埃尔-埃利安说得没错，这些波动同时在全球各地发生。我认为，对于推动这一现象的原因，既有负面的解读，也有更乐观的看法。目前很难判断哪种因素占据主导地位。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 副总统J·D·万斯在一次电视采访中表示，贝森特部长有一个“非常审慎的计划”来缩减美国国债规模。贝森特部长明天本应召开新闻发布会，他表示将就财政整顿采取行动。普通民众应该关注哪些信号，才能说明美国如今正在切实处理债务问题，这不再是个麻烦？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 你可以参考国会预算办公室的预测，该机构会对未来数十年的美国债务和赤字进行预估。长期以来，多位美联储领导人都指出，美国的债务轨迹已处于不可持续的路径上。我认为，最终还是要靠我们的财政决策者——也就是财政部和行政部门与国会合作，制定财政政策方案，改变当前的债务轨迹，将其拉回可持续的道路。但显然，就像你刚才提到的，这并非美联储的职责。美联储的职责是，无论他们做出何种决定，都将其纳入我们的经济预测中，然后我们的工作就是据此将通胀率拉回2%的目标，完成国会赋予我们的双重使命。我和我的同事们都致力于实现这一目标。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。我了解到，本周末你们将在杰克逊霍尔召开会议。我很好奇这些市场动态之间有什么关联，你认为市场当前的这种波动和担忧情绪，会让美联储在制定政策时面临更大挑战，或是会促使美联储进行干预吗？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 我不这么认为。正如我刚才提到的，种种迹象都表明美国国债市场运转正常——交易正常进行，市场流动性充足。这让我们能够专注于将联邦基金利率作为主要政策工具，以将通胀拉回目标水平。因此，我认为我们有自由采取必要行动，实现国会交给我们的目标。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的。在上一次美联储会议上，你对整体维持利率不变的决议投了反对票。你表示，美国已经经历了五年持续高通胀，在我看来，你的意思是“别再拖延了”，你当时提议应该开始考虑加息，你提到了25个基点的加息幅度。你仍然认为下个月有必要这样做吗？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 我需要更多数据——距离下一次联邦公开市场委员会会议还有一段时间，我不想提前预判会议结果。但目前中东局势、伊朗相关冲突，已经成为影响通胀的一大关键因素。如你所知，能源渗透到美国经济的各个领域，这场冲突持续的时间越长，动荡就越严重，对美国经济和通胀的影响也就越大。即便这是由地缘政治因素引发的，最终也会影响通胀，最终也会影响美联储的使命。冲突持续的时间越长，我就越没有信心通胀能够回归目标水平。五年来，我们一直在说通胀将在未来一两年内回归目标，但这个时间节点一再被推迟。最终我们可能不得不采取更多行动。我不确定我们现在是否已经到了需要加息的地步，我们需要更多的数据支撑。但我不想提前预判下一次会议的结果。不过目前我并不确信通胀会在短期内回归目标水平。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们应该补充说明一下，贝森特部长明天的新闻发布会上，预计会谈到转向金融战，或者说回归以往的策略，可能会升级对伊朗的金融战争。看起来美国打算采取这一步，而非军事冲突。这会不会对你的政策判断产生影响？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 现在——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的。
尼尔·卡什卡里： 下定论还为时过早。我不知道部长会宣布什么，也不知道这对能源价格和大宗商品价格会有什么影响。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。我还想问问你最近几天我们了解到的美加贸易紧张局势。你所在的明尼苏达州是重要的边境州。加拿大总理卡尼表示，下周将对钢铁、乳制品、家电、农业设备、纸浆和纸张、电子产品实施新的报复性关税。明尼苏达州有着大量的跨境贸易，你有没有迹象表明这场关税争端的影响会有多严重？
尼尔·卡什卡里： 加拿大是美国重要的贸易伙伴。我们之前谈到，五年来居高不下的通胀在很大程度上由所谓的供给冲击推动，其中之一就是贸易和关税冲突。因此，只要我们能够达成新的常态，确定稳定的贸易关系，企业就能做出调整，通胀的影响也会逐渐消退。贸易战线的拉锯持续越久，就好比伊朗冲突持续越久，对通胀的影响就会越持久、越延迟，这也是我们需要密切关注的另一个因素。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。我们会持续关注此事，也一如既往感谢你的真知灼见。尼尔·卡什卡里，感谢今天上午做客我们节目。《直面国家》节目稍后马上回来。
Transcript: Neel Kashkari, Minneapolis Fed president and CEO, on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Aug. 23, 2026
2026-08-23T13:03:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of an interview with Neel Kashkari, President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 23, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: For more on what’s next for the American economy, we’re joined by Neel Kashkari, President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. Welcome back to Face the Nation.
NEEL KASHKARI: Thanks for having me, Margaret. Great to be with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So when we spoke back in May, I asked you about the debt level America has. You said you didn’t see an immediate crisis brewing, but at some point, this is going to become a problem. We just hit $40 trillion. Are we at the point where this is a problem?
: Well, Margaret, if you look at the Treasury yields, yields are high, 4.7% for example, on the 10-year Treasury. They’re high relative to recent history. They’re not high relative to more longer American history. In the early 2000s, the 10-year Treasury and the 30-year Treasury were around these levels. In the 90s, they were meaningfully higher than they are now, and there’s no sign of Treasury market dysfunction or breaking down in financial markets. There are a lot of different factors that go into those Treasury yields. Inflation, and the outlook for inflation is one of those factors, that’s the Fed’s job. But there are many other factors, like, it’s the AI investment, government borrowing, economic growth. All of those end up going together to set these long-run Treasury yields.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But we saw this bond sell-off. We saw extraordinary action by the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to intervene. He said what was happening was due to traders having bad information. Is that what’s happening?
: Well, I’m going to leave it to the Treasury Secretary to manage the Treasury debt market. That’s the job of the Treasury Department. The Fed’s job is really to take care of the inflation piece of it. We are all absolutely committed to getting inflation back down to 2%, but long run, it’s going to be fundamentals of debt issuance, of investment, of economic growth and productivity. Long run, that’s what sets the Treasury yields, and not just in the U.S. but government bond yields all around the world.
MARGARET BRENNAN: No, and I appreciate as a central banker, you don’t want to get involved in fiscal policy or what the markets are doing day to day, but there is this debate right now about whether something more fundamental is shifting. Investor Mohamed El-Erian wrote in the New York Times, “There’s a breathtaking leap in the cost of borrowing. If it persists, it could mark the beginning of a structural economic shift more enduring and more globally consequential than most previous episodes of market volatility.” Is that overstating things? Are we in the midst of a huge shift?
: Well, there are a lot of different factors going on at the same time. So, the stock market, as you know, has been really bullish for the last several years, really excited about AI and the prospects that that will lead to productivity growth. You know, a more optimistic take on these market moves is that the bond market is catching up to the stock market, and the bond market is seeing a higher growth trajectory. If the- if the global economy is in for higher productivity growth and higher growth, you would also expect to see higher yields all around the world. Now, I’m not endorsing that view. I’m not saying that’s right. But, there are many different ways that you could see bond yields go up globally. It is- Mr. El-Erian is right. These moves are happening all around the world at the same time. I think that there are negative views of what could be driving that. There are also more optimistic views. It’s hard to know right now which is the- the bigger driver.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, the vice president J.D. Vance, in a TV interview, said Secretary Bessent has a, quote, “very discreet plan to shrink the nation’s debt.” Mr. Bessent is holding a press conference tomorrow, or is supposed to, and- and he said he’s going to do things about fiscal consolidation. What are the things that people at home should be listening for that say America’s debt load is really being dealt with now, that this isn’t a problem?
: Well, I just think you can look to the Congressional Budget Office, which makes forecasts of debt, U.S. debt and deficits for decades out into the future, and many Fed leaders have said for a long time that the debt trajectory is on an unsustainable path. I think ultimately it’s up to our fiscal actors. That’s the Treasury and the executive branch working with Congress to design a fiscal package that can change that and put it on a sustainable path. But obviously, you know, you said it a moment ago. That’s not the Fed’s role. The Fed’s role is to take whatever they decide to do, put that into our forecast of the economy, and then our job is to take that and get inflation back down to our 2% target and achieve our dual mandate goals. And my colleagues and I are all committed to doing so.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right. And you have a meeting at the end of this week, I understand, out in Jackson Hole. But, I’m- I’m wondering how all these dots connect because do you think that this kind of activity and level of concern in the markets is going to make your job harder when it comes to- to making some decisions or cause the Fed to intervene?
: I don’t think so, right. As I mentioned a few moments ago, there’s every indication that the U.S. Treasury market is functioning as it should–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
: –that trades are taking place. That there’s liquidity in the market, and so that enables us to focus on the federal funds rate as our primary policy tool to get inflation back down. And so I think we have the freedom to do what we need to do to achieve our goals that Congress has assigned us.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. At that last Fed meeting that was held, you dissented from the broader decision to hold interest rates steady. You said there have now been five years of persistently high inflation, and, sort of like, let’s get on with it was my understanding. You were saying let’s start to possibly raise rates. You mentioned a quarter of a percentage point. Are you still thinking that that’s necessary next month?
: Well, I want to get- more data has yet to come between now and our next FOMC meeting, so I don’t want to prejudge things. But what’s happening in the Middle East, the conflict with Iran, is now a big driver of what’s happening on inflation because, as you know, energy goes into every facet of the U.S. economy, and the longer that conflict, the more turmoil there is. The longer it goes on, the bigger effect it ends up having on the U.S. economy and on inflation. And even if it’s driven by geopolitical factors like that, ultimately it does affect inflation. Ultimately, it does have a bearing on the Federal Reserve’s mandate and so the longer that goes on, the less confident I am that inflation is going to return to target. You know, for- for five years we’ve been saying inflation is going to return to target in the next year or two. It just keeps getting pushed out. Eventually, we’re going to have to do more. And I’m not sure if we’re there yet, we need to see more data. But I don’t want to prejudge the next meeting. But I’m not feeling confident right now that inflation is heading back down to target in a short period of time.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And- and we should say that at that press conference, Secretary Bessent is expected to have tomorrow, he’s supposed to talk about switching to financial warfare, or I guess returning to where we were and maybe ratcheting it up with financial warfare against Iran. It seems that that’s the foot forward rather than military conflict. Does that change anything for you?
: I- I- it’s too soon–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
: –to know. I don’t know what the secretary will announce, and I don’t know what the implication will be for–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
: –energy prices and commodity prices.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah. Let me ask you as well about what we heard in the last few days about the trade tension with Canada. You are in Minnesota, key border state there. Prime Minister Carney said there will be new retaliatory tariffs rolling out next week on steel, dairy appliances, ag equipment, pulp and paper, electronics. You’ve got a lot of cross-border trade here. Do you have any indication how significant the impact will be?
: Well, Canada is an important trading partner for America. You know, we talked about the five years of elevated inflation that has largely been driven by what we call supply shocks. One of those supply shocks is the trade and tariff conflicts. And so to the extent that we can get to a new- a new normal, a- a- a level of- whatever the trade dynamic is going to be, once we can get to that steady state, then businesses can adjust, and the inflationary impact can fade into the background. The longer there’s back and forth on the trade front, just like the longer there’s back and forth in the conflict of Iran, the imprint in inflation end up being extended and delayed, and so that’s another factor to pay close- close attention to.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right. Well, we will follow that, and we appreciate your insight as always. Neel Kashkari, thanks for joining us this morning. Face Nation will be right back.