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    本转录稿为2026年10月11日播出的《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目中,帕兰蒂尔(Palantir)首席技术官希亚姆·桑卡尔(Shyam Sankar)专访的完整文字实录,部分内容已在节目中播出。

    2026-10-11T10:31:11-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是与帕兰蒂尔首席技术官希亚姆·桑卡尔的完整访谈实录,部分内容已在2026年10月11日《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目中播出。


    玛格丽特·布伦南: 现在我们邀请到了帕兰蒂尔的首席技术官希亚姆·桑卡尔。欢迎来到《面对全国》节目。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 感谢邀请我来,玛格丽特。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 很高兴你能来到演播室现场。我们近期一直在大量讨论科技、人工智能以及公众对其的看法,这正是我想从你这里展开的话题。我们的民调显示,目前这一领域存在问题。哥伦比亚广播公司的民调显示,50%的受访者认为人工智能带来的问题多于其解决的问题,29%的人认为其利大于弊,还有21%的人完全不知情。45%的美国人希望政府限制人工智能的使用和开发。你的立场是目前不应设置任何监管护栏吗?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 不,完全不是。这不是我的立场。我认为——科技行业肩负着绝对的责任,要向美国民众证明人工智能确实能带来切实好处,而不是那种虚无缥缈的好处,比如帮我安排行程,而是能为美国民众带来就业增长和繁荣的实实在在的益处。我认为当前讨论中一个非常复杂的点在于,有一股无形的力量在主导人工智能安全的叙事,它实际上就是这个融合了末日邪教和救世主情结的运动,名叫有效利他主义。大多数美国人最熟悉的有效利他主义者是萨姆·班克曼-弗里德,而有效利他主义者几乎就像一个宗教团体,他们从21世纪初就一直在思考人工智能带来的末日场景。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 他——他现在入狱了,他是那位加密货币投资者——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 没错。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 他曾欺骗投资者。但这听起来非常学术化。你为什么如此关注这件事?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 因为美国的人工智能研究人员大概只有2000人左右,其中绝大多数都信奉这种围绕有效利他主义的世界观。如果你听到像雅各布·科克森这样的人说人工智能有10%的概率会终结人类,而你相信——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 这位研究人员最近发出了这样的警告。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 是的,没错。如果你认为他是基于专业背景发表的技术层面的科学批评,那么美国民众完全有理由对此感到极度恐慌和担忧。但如果你明白这本质上是一种神学层面的批判,你就可以将其与现实中正在发生的经验事实进行权衡。我认为——帕斯卡有句名言,每个人心中都有一个上帝的空缺,这句话道出了深刻的真相。要明白,硅谷许多开发这项技术的人已经用通用人工智能这个“机器上帝”填补了这个空缺。关于这一点有很多有趣的故事,比如,很多人工智能研究人员开始抽烟,以此向其他研究人员表明他们对人工智能的信仰有多坚定。我如此坚信——(对话被打断)

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 什么?这完全说不通。你是怎么认为的——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我如此坚信人工智能能够治愈癌症,所以我要向你们展示我已经押上了全部筹码。目前存在一种群体性的心理偏执和社会妄想,我认为这正在阻碍我们真正理解人工智能的发展现状。人工智能正在工业领域与美国劳动者产生怎样的结合?这样做的结果是什么?而那些末日论者的预测基本上都错了。他们预言的所有事情都没有成真:他们说ChatGPT 2.0发布过于危险,他们说按照当前的发展节奏,我们早就该面临大规模失业和岗位替代了,但经济学家们发现,实际上我们在一些此前无法预见的领域实现了就业增长。所以科技行业肩负着双重责任:一是要向美国民众清晰地表明,人工智能将为国家带来经济繁荣和安全;二是要切实承担起工程设计的责任。你不能逃避“设计安全产品是你的职责”这一理念,不能对此含糊其辞。如果你看看末日论者的言论,会发现它们是相互矛盾的。一种说法是这项技术会终结人类。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 与此同时,他们又说“但我相信它有一定概率创造乌托邦”。乍一看这似乎自相矛盾,但它们有一个共同点:作为人类,你没有任何主动权。机器上帝将决定未来,或许只有少数人能够试图避免可怕的结局。我认为这掩盖了一个更深刻的现实:我们人类拥有巨大的主动权,可以决定如何利用这项技术实现美国民众期望的成果。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那我们来谈谈这个问题。另一种反驳观点会说,那些反对设置监管护栏的人纯粹是出于商业目的,他们只想继续销售芯片,或者只想抢占市场。所以这是对你所说观点的反驳,也就是你反对设置监管护栏是出于意识形态立场。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 或许我们可以先退一步,谁是反对设置监管护栏的一方?

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧,我想深入探讨具体细节,因为就连“监管护栏”的定义都非常复杂,目前甚至没有达成共识。但新任国家情报总监兼人工智能沙皇杰伊·克莱顿本周表示,工作重点是管控和监测那些有可能造成伤害的技术。在你看来,这具体意味着什么?听起来他自己也还不确定。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我认为我们应该明确,我们应当监管这项技术的应用场景。如果你将其用于医药领域,就像美国食品药品监督管理局(FDA)的监管逻辑一样。作为一个共和国,我们拥有250年丰富的法律和历史经验来管理责任问题。我不想把这个比喻说得太简单,但举个例子,如果我买了一辆有缺陷的汽车,那是汽车制造商的问题;但如果我开着那辆车撞了邻居的房子,那就是我的问题。而现在这种叙事混淆了概念,声称这项技术是完全不同性质的事物。我不这么认为,我认为它只是程度上的差异。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧,如果人类无法掌控它,那就是性质不同的事物了。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 不,人类可以掌控它。即使我们看那些围绕Hugging Face平台的耸人听闻的报道,那些模型也没有做出任何超出指令的行为。它们——最初的问题出在人为失误。它们没有处于沙箱环境中,而是接入了互联网,这是一个糟糕的网络安全配置。从这个角度来看,它们被要求在特定基准测试中取得成功,并且没有得到实现目标的约束条件。于是它们说:“要在基准测试中取得成功,最好的办法就是获取考试答案,然后照做。”

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那么,针对这种情况,谁应该采取行动来——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: ——我认为这是一款有缺陷的产品。就像——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: ——应该由司法部对程序员提起诉讼吗?比如,谁应该为这项技术没有局限在沙箱环境中承担责任——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: ——当然是人工智能公司。在那个具体案例中,责任方是人工智能公司。如果另一家公司获得授权使用这项技术开发应用,产品按预期运行,但你误用了产品,那么责任就在你身上。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以我的理解是,你认为现有的法律足以应对技术的发展?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我认为现有的法律是一个巨大的起点。我认为现行法律已经涵盖了当前的诸多考量。或许我们需要在边缘领域补充一些条款?当然,但我认为我们可以在实践中逐步完善。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那我们来谈谈其中一些具体问题。你曾陪同总统会见近期被召集的人工智能领域领军人物,当时总统要求他们签署一项承诺,承诺实施强有力的内部管控、与外部审计机构合作,并设立委员会评估审计报告。谷歌、Anthropic、OpenAI、英伟达、埃隆·马斯克都签署了这项承诺。而你们公司帕兰蒂尔没有签署。为什么?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,这些协议是针对那些真正开发人工智能模型的公司的,而我们公司并不开发模型,所以——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但你们会使用这些模型并搭建平台。所以你不认为你们需要设置相关约束?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 哦,我们确实有这些约束。事实上,这正是我们整个业务的一部分,即如何在特定应用场景中安全部署这些模型。我们只是没有参与这项协议——我们没有被邀请加入该协议。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但你出席了那场会议。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我出席了。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那么,当时的谈话是怎样的?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 谈话的核心是,美国民众期望人工智能能够创造经济繁荣,并且是在安全的前提下实现这一目标,而我们作为企业,有明确的义务切实兑现这些承诺,我们可以依靠现有法律来处理相关问题,我们都应该认真对待这件事。那是一场非常有成效的对话。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 因为听起来白宫当时是在说需要采取更多措施,而现在新任人工智能沙皇杰伊·克莱顿本周将前往硅谷。他表示已启动为期120天的人工智能政策审查。你希望从中看到什么成果?还是说这又是另一个不会产生任何实际结果的蓝丝带委员会?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: ——不,我认为这次审查会带来很多成果,核心是聚焦和投入精力,利用现有机构和监管体系确保我们能掌控局势,并在需要的地方提供支持。我认为其中一个挑战,回到我之前关于有效利他主义的评论——目前负责监管的所谓独立研究组织实际上并不独立。它们与相关实验室存在利益冲突,其成员都持有单一的有效利他主义世界观,一直在寻找末日场景。你会看到评估人员本质上是举着一把上膛的枪对准目标,然后说“我不敢相信枪真的响了”。而他们真正应该问的是:“我们设置了哪些监管护栏?这些产品是否符合我们的设计规格?存在哪些被滥用的可能性?”

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以我曾与金融行业的人士交谈过,他们说我们确实需要一些监管,但美国证券交易委员会(SEC)、商品期货交易委员会(CFTC)等机构已经在监管相关业务了。你不认为在现有机构框架内,可以设立一个专门监管技术的实体吗?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我认为我们需要建立一个事件响应和报告机制,在产品发布前就提高测试过程中的可见性和透明度,让政府能够了解企业如何落实现有法律要求。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 谁来负责这项工作,或者说谁可以负责?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我会 defer 给克莱顿局长,但我认为这是他们可能会推进的方向之一。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 他得弄清楚这个问题。我们看看上一届政府——拜登总统和习近平主席曾达成一项非常有限的协议,但至少在一个原则上达成了共识,即人类而非人工智能应该保留使用核武器的决策权。这是否合理——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,这似乎是显而易见的。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 首先,他们不得不坐下来讨论这件事,这本身就令人不安,但这不应该在国防领域的其他方面推广吗?你同意吗?这是不是其中一个需要——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,当前的政策分为两部分:一部分是军事 doctrine,即人类始终对每一项决策负责;另一部分是,在涉及致命武力的决策过程中,人类必须参与其中。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但在你认为应该设置更多监管护栏的领域,国防领域是不是其中之一?生物技术领域,我听其他人也这么说过。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 所有领域都需要——都需要考虑应用安全。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但这仍然存在一个问题:谁来负责,以及如何负责?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,我认为国防部和国会应该负责国防领域的安全监管,交通部负责交通领域,FDA负责医药领域。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以,预计这方面可能会有所行动。因为你知道,科技行业的人会说,我们需要全速前进以与中国竞争。中国正在推动人工智能全面融入其所有产业,但他们有能力放缓发展速度以跟上监管步伐,他们之前就这么做过。所以你认为美国也应该考虑在某些领域踩刹车,先放缓发展速度,直到明确监管护栏的方向?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 你知道,美国拥有这套美丽而混乱的流程,但尽管看起来令人沮丧,我认为它正在发挥作用。我们现在已经有了尚未发布的前沿模型,因为人们意识到我们可能还没准备好发布它们。这在一年前是不可想象的。随着人们开始思考实验室、政府应该如何作为,我认为这正是我们混乱的流程和各方讨论带来的结果,我们正在逐步改进实施方式,发展速度自然会随之改变。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 我们来谈谈国防部。他们最近停止使用Anthropic的产品,原因是该公司坚持要求对军事用途的人工智能设置保护措施。我知道你了解这个案例。Anthropic的Claude曾是Maven平台的一部分,而帕兰蒂尔也使用该平台。这一决定会产生多大影响?谁会取代他们的位置?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,目前国防部拥有广泛的模型供应商选择,从XAI和OpenAI到英伟达的Nemotron等开源模型,所以我不认为——我不认为这会对运营产生影响。我认为这背后有一个更广泛的声明,实际上推动了我们商业业务的增长,即企业正在意识到,这同样适用于政府:你不会只选择一家模型供应商。实际上,作为一个机构,你的主权和能动性取决于你能否掌控、决定在何种场景下使用哪些模型,能否切换模型,能否自主控制模型权重——在你需要感受到这种控制权的地方。这是你的核心竞争力,是让你的机构与众不同的关键。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以你还不确定谁会取代他们,但你不认为这一决定会产生重大影响。这在硅谷和国防领域无疑是个大新闻——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 已经有替代方案了,已经找到了替代方案。开发人工智能应用的用户可以自主选择他们使用的模型。可用的模型套件包括谷歌、XAI、OpenAI提供的产品。你刚才的第二个问题是什么来着,抱歉?

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 是的,我刚才问的是影响。听起来你认为这不会——不会造成太大影响。好吧,我可以继续了。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 没有影响。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你最近曾表示,伊朗战争是第一场人工智能发挥核心作用的重大冲突,尤其是在目标定位方面。你认为这其中存在风险吗?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,你知道,“目标定位”这个词有些耸人听闻。实际上,目标定位是一个流程。如果你想想军事行动,以前,一天执行1000次打击需要50人花费两周时间来规划,而现在一个人花4小时就能完成,这能让你在战场上相对于对手获得显著优势。所以这并不是人们立刻联想到的那种“人工智能挑选目标”的情况,实际并非如此。它真正的作用是,当你明确了想要达成的效果——比如我想摧毁敌人的防空系统。好的,哪些目标与此相关?好的,接下来我如何将它们纳入流程,确保这些目标不在打击黑名单上?是否有任何目标距离民用基础设施过近?在时间紧迫的情况下,如何完成所有这些极易出现人为失误的环节?以一种可重复、高精度的方式完成这些工作,从而提升系统的处理能力。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 嗯,这涉及到一个更广泛的争论:削减那些负责减轻打击对平民影响的人员岗位。这是赫格斯塞特部长做出的五角大楼决定。你刚才谈到了数千次打击,伊朗的目标定位行动中有很多成功的案例。但你也知道,米纳布地区发生了一起可怕的事件,造成至少123名学童死亡。彭博社报道称,一些人员过度依赖帕兰蒂尔公司开发的、采用人工智能技术的Maven系统。你是否确定当时发生了什么?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,我们应该等待最终报告。但我可以说的是,相关报道并不准确。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你是说彭博社的报道不准确?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 是的,报道失实,实际原因很可能是人为失误。而且——在那之后不久,我们就开发了更多的人工智能代理来进行更多检查。这是我们无法掌控的流程的一部分,但为了应对当下的紧迫性,我们开发了额外的人工智能工具,在我们无法掌控的流程之外进行更多复核,以确保类似事件不再发生。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以你是在暗示,是情报过时或者人为失误将信息输入了计算机系统。你是这个意思吗?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,我们应该等待最终报告,但我认为我们会发现——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你知道报告何时发布吗?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我不知道。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 因为最初的报道已经被广泛传播,包括本媒体在内。你认为尽快公布相关信息是否有坏处,还是说这对你所说的想要做出的改进有所帮助?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,我会 defer 给国防部来决定——我无法控制发布时间。但没错,我希望真相能够公之于众。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但你认为那是人为失误。你是这个意思吗,而非彭博社报道所说的,他们过度依赖人工智能。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 彭博社的报道是错误的。没错。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 有120名众议院民主党人就这起事件以及人工智能在打击行动中的应用,包括Maven系统,致信赫格斯塞特部长。你是否打算向国会简要介绍相关情况或分享信息?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我们已经向国会进行过简报,而且——他们也清楚Maven系统的能力。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但就这起打击行动以及哪里出了问题,显然确实发生了失误。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我会 defer 给国防部来解释。那——不是我们的职责范围。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但帕兰蒂尔与美国政府的联系如此紧密。我的意思是,你们目前拥有数十亿美元的政府合同。你是否认为应该向国会通报更多关于这项技术的益处和风险的信息?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 遗憾的是,我只是一名技术专家。在这些政策问题上,我会 defer 给相关人士。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧,在节目结束前,我想快速问一下你参与的现代化建设工作。我了解到你是陆军预备役部队陆军执行创新团的中校。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 没错。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 这是一个新设立的职位。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 是的。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 还有来自Meta和OpenAI的高管也加入了该团队。那么你在那里负责什么工作?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我的主要职责是帮助陆军G-1部门负责人力资源工作。也就是制定战略,帮助——陆军拥有大量人才,我们称之为“绿衣人”,也就是真正懂代码的士兵,他们——他们非常优秀。我们该如何任用他们?你知道,他们不符合工业时代的模式,不符合拿破仑式的军衔体系。他们的技能与军衔无关。你可能会遇到一个E-4军衔的士兵,却是一名非常优秀的程序员,但在陆军内部并没有明确的职业发展路径。陆军不知道该如何管理这类人才。那么,我们该如何识别这些优秀人才?如何保护他们?如何将他们安排到能充分发挥技能的项目中,将他们转化为军队的宝贵资产?

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以这就是你在这个团队中的职责?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 没错。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那么对于那些认为这些大型企业可能存在利益冲突的人,因为他们也在与美国政府开展业务。你对此有何回应?

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 嗯,国防部的律师团队会进行严格管理。我们只能参与那些不存在利益冲突的项目。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那么你认为——

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 我想更广泛地说,能够为美国军队服务是我最大的荣幸。你知道,作为一名移民到这个国家的人,这是——我已故的父亲一直希望我能进入军事院校。人生的轨迹就是这样。我希望在44岁的年纪,通过这个身份为国家做出的贡献,能比我24岁时更多,这让我深感自豪。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 希亚姆,感谢你今天抽出时间接受采访。

    希亚姆·桑卡尔: 谢谢。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 我们稍后回来。

    Transcript: Shyam Sankar, chief technology officer of Palantir, on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Oct. 11, 2026

    2026-10-11T10:31:11-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the full transcript of the interview with Shyam Sankar, chief technology officer of Palantir, a portion of which aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Oct. 11, 2026.

    *

    MARGARET BRENNAN: And we’re joined now by the Chief Technology Officer of Palantir, Shyam Sankar. Welcome to Face the Nation.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Thank you for having me, Margaret.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: It’s good to have you here in person. We’ve been talking a lot about technology, artificial intelligence, and public perception of it right now, and that’s where I want to start with you because our polling shows there’s a problem here. 50% of those polled by CBS say AI will create more problems than it solves. 29% say it’ll solve more than it creates, and 21% just really don’t know. Like 45% of Americans want the government to restrict use and development of AI. Is your position there should not be any guardrails at this moment?

    SHYAM SANKAR: No, not at all. That’s not my position. I think the- the burden is absolutely on the technology industry to show the American people that there are real benefits to AI and not kind of ephemeral sort of benefits like it can help me schedule travel, but actually meaningful benefits that result in job growth and prosperity for the American people. I think one of the things that’s really complicated in the current discussion, is that there’s an unseen force driving the narrative around AI safety, and it’s- it’s really this millenarian doomsday cult meets messianic complex called effective altruism. The most famous effective altruist that most Americans know is Sam Bankman-Fried, and the effective altruists are, it’s almost like a religion that they’ve been thinking about doomsday scenarios from AI since the early 2000s.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: He was–he is jailed. He was the crypto investor—

    SHYAM SANKAR: Correct.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Who defrauded investors. But this sounds very academic. Like, what makes you so focused on this?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Because there’s only really roughly 2,000 AI researchers in America, and the vast majority of them believe in this sort of worldview around effective altruism. And if you hear someone like Jacob Coxon telling you that AI has a 10% chance of ending humanity, and you believe—

    MARGARET BRENNAN: A researcher who had this warning recently.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Yes, correct. And you believe he’s speaking as a technically informed individual who does this work, it’s a scientific critique. I think the American people would be right to be quite panicked and worried about what’s going on here. But if you understand that it’s actually a theological critique, then you can- you can kind of weigh it against the empirical facts of what is actually happening out there. You know, I take—I think there’s a profound truth to Pascal’s saying that every human has a god-shaped hole in their heart, and it’s important to understand that many of these folks in Silicon Valley who are building this technology have filled that hole with the machine God of AGI. And I mean, there’s so many interesting stories around this. Like, for example, so many AI researchers have started smoking as a way of signaling to other researchers how much they believe in AI. I believe so much— (CROSSTALK)

    MARGARET BRENNAN: What? That makes no sense. What do you think—

    SHYAM SANKAR: I believe so much in AI that it’s going to cure cancer. So I will—I’m showing you my chips are all in. So there is kind of this mass psychosis, social delusion around it, and I think it’s getting in the way of actually what is happening with AI. Where is it meeting the American worker in industry? What are the results of doing that, and the doomsdayers have basically been wrong. Everything they predicted, they- they told us that ChatGPT 2.0 was too dangerous to release. They told us at this point in the timeline, we’d already have mass unemployment and job displacement, and the economists see that actually we’re having job growth in areas that we wouldn’t have predicted doing exactly that. So the technology industry has two burdens. One is to show very clearly to the American people that- that AI is going to result in economic prosperity and security for the nation. And two, to actually do and absorb the burden of engineering. You cannot abdicate this idea that designing safe products is your job. You can’t hand wave around it. If you look at the kind of narratives that come out of the doomsdayers, they seem like two contradictory narratives. One narrative is this technology is going to end humanity.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.

    SHYAM SANKAR: And simultaneously, they say, “But I believe it has some chance of creating utopia.” So at first blush, this seems contradictory, but it has one thing in common, which is that you, as a human, have no agency. The machine god is going to decide the future, and only perhaps a small number of us can try to avoid the horrible outcome. And I think it obfuscates the more profound reality that we have a huge amount of human agency over how we’re going to use this technology to deliver the outcomes the American people expect.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well let’s talk about that because the other part of this argument would be, and no one who wants- the people who don’t want guardrails are simply in it for commercial reasons. They want to keep selling chips, or they just want access to market. So that would be the counter argument to the idea that you know what you’re saying, which is an ideological opposition to guardrails.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Maybe we could just back up and who’s on the side of no guardrails?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, when- I want to get into the specifics here, because even just defining what guardrails is seems really complicated, and there’s not even common agreement on that right now. But Jay Clayton, who is the new DNI and the new AI czar, said this week the focus is on control and monitoring of technologies with the potential to do harm. So, what does that look like to you? Because it sounds like he’s not even sure yet.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, I think there’s a very clear view that we should be regulating the application of the technology. So if you’re going to use this in medicines, you know the FDA- As a republic, we have 250 years of rich laws and history on how to manage liability. I don’t want to trivialize the metaphor, but you know, if I buy a car and the car is defective, that’s the car maker’s problem. If I then use that car to go drive into my neighbor’s house, that’s my problem. And you know, this sort of obfuscation. The narrative is this technology is a total difference of kind. I don’t think so. I think it’s a difference of degree.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, in that humans aren’t in control of it, it would be a different kind.

    SHYAM SANKAR: No, humans are in control of it. Even if we look at the kind of salacious reporting around Hugging Face, the models did not do anything they were not instructed to do. You know, they were- the- the real first, you have human error. They- they were not in a sandbox. They had access to the internet. It was a horrible cybersecurity configuration. Then, from that perspective, they were asked to- to- succeed at a specific benchmark, and they were not given constraints on how to do that. And they said, “Oh, the best way to succeed at the benchmark is to get the answers to the test, and to do so.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So, for that, who should take action to–

    SHYAM SANKAR: –I think it’s a defective product. Like, if–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –Is it up to the Justice Department to then bring suit, like on the programmers, like who’s liable for the technology not, you know, staying within the sandbox–

    SHYAM SANKAR: –The AI companies of course. In that, in that specific case, it would be the AI companies. If another company had licensed that technology to use in another in an application, and the product worked as expected, but you misused the product, then it would be you that are responsible for that.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you believe that, am I understanding you, the existing laws on the books should be able to handle technology as it develops?

    SHYAM SANKAR: I think it is a massive running head start. I think the laws on the books speak to a lot of the current considerations. Might we need a few more things on the margin? Sure, but I think we’ll figure that out as we go through it.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So let’s talk about some of those things because you were with the president when he summoned some of these AI leaders recently, and he asked them all to sign a pledge to implement robust internal controls, partner with an external auditor and establish a committee to evaluate reports from auditors. That was Google, Anthropic, OpenAI, Nvidia, Elon Musk. They all signed it. Palantir, your company didn’t. Why?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, those accords were for companies that actually make AI models, which we do not, so–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But you help to use them and build out platforms. Like you don’t see a reason for constraints there.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Oh, we- we do have those constraints. In fact, that- part of that’s our entire business, is how do you safely deploy these models in specific use cases. We’re just not a party that- we weren’t asked to be a part of the accord.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But you were there at that meeting.

    SHYAM SANKAR: I was.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So, what happened? Like, what was the conversation?

    SHYAM SANKAR: The conversation was really an assertion that the American people expect AI to generate economic prosperity and to do so securely, and that we as companies have an affirmative obligation to deliver on exactly those things, and that we have existing laws to look at this, and that we should be all taking this quite seriously, very productive conversation.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Because it sounded like the White House was saying something more should be done, and now you have this new AI Czar Jay Clayton going out to Silicon Valley this week. He said he’s launched this 120-day review of AI policy. What do you hope comes from that, or is this another one of these like blue ribbon commissions that doesn’t produce any–

    SHYAM SANKAR: –No, I think a lot will come up to it, which is really focus and energy, and using the existing agencies and regulatory apparatus to make sure we’re on top of this stuff and providing support where it’s needed. I think one of the challenges, going back to my comments on effective altruism is, today, the so-called independent research organizations that are overseeing this are not really independent. They have conflicts with the labs. They are made up of people with a singular worldview around effective altruism, looking for the doomsday scenarios. You know, you have evaluators who are essentially pointing a loaded gun at a target, saying, “I can’t believe the gun worked.” When they should really be saying, “What guardrails do we have in place? You know- are you know are these products working to the specifications we designed, and what- what are the opportunities for misuse?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So I’ve spoken to people, for example, in the financial industry who say we did need some regulation here, but there’s the SEC, there is you know the CFTC, they oversee certain operations here. Don’t you think within the current institutions there could be some sort of entity that oversees technology?

    SHYAM SANKAR: I think there’s going to need to be an incident response and reporting regime that creates more visibility and transparency into what you’re learning in the testing, well ahead of product launches that give visibility and transparency to the government of how people are doing and implementing exactly the existing laws.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Who does that, or who could do that?

    SHYAM SANKAR: I will defer to Director Clayton on that, but I think that’s one of the things that I- I suspect they will be driving towards.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: He’s got to figure that out. Well, we look at the last administration- President Biden and Xi Jinping came to like, a very limited agreement, but at least on one principle, which was humans, not AI, should retain control over decisions to use nuclear weapons. Would it be sensible–

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, that seems obvious.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, that seems terrifying, first of all, that they had to come to a conversation about that, but shouldn’t that be expanded elsewhere in the defense space? Would you agree with that? Is that one of the areas–

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, the current part of the policy is there’s two parts of it. There’s the kind of military doctrine, which is that a human is always accountable for every decision that’s made, and the other part of it is that humans are in- in the decision-making processes that- that relate to lethal force here.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But in terms of the things where you think there should be more guardrails, is the defense space one of them? Biotech, I’ve heard others.

    SHYAM SANKAR: All spaces need to- need to have a thought around safety of application.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But that’s still- who does that and how?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, I think the Department and the Congress should do it with defense. The Department of Transportation should do it with transportation. The FDA should do it with medicines.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But so, watch for that possibly happen. Because you know, I hear from people in the technology space this argument that we need to just go so furiously forward to compete with China. China is pushing for AI to be integrated into all of its industries, but they have the ability to also delay things to get government- governance to catch up, they’ve done that. They’ve tapped the brakes themselves before. So, do you think the U.S. should also consider tapping the brakes in certain areas, just slow things until they have some idea of the guardrails?

    SHYAM SANKAR: You know, we have this beautiful, messy process in America, but I would argue, as frustrating as it might look, it’s kind of working. So, we have frontier models now that have not been released because people have realized maybe we’re not ready to release them. That would have been an unimaginable thought a year ago. And so as people are starting to wrap their heads around whether it’s the labs, government- I think it is a consequence of our messy process and the discussions that people are having that we’re evolving how we’re doing this, and the pace is naturally changing.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Let’s talk a little bit about DOD, the Department of War, Department of Defense. They have recently ceased using Anthropic products as part of this dispute over the firm’s insistence on safeguards for military use of AI. I know you’re aware of this case. Anthropic’s Claude was part of the Maven platform, which Palantir uses. How much of an impact will this decision here have, and who replaces them?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, the- the Department today has a wide range of model providers, everything from XAI and OpenAI to open-weight models like Nemotron from NVIDIA, so I don’t think- I don’t- there’s been no operational impact from that. I think there’s a kind of a broader statement which really has been powering the growth of our commercial business, which is companies are realizing, and it equally applies to the government, that you’re not going to pick any one model provider. That actually, your sovereignty and agency as an institution comes down to your ability to kind of control, decide which models you’re going to use in what context, have the ability to switch models, to be able to control the weights themselves, where you need to feel that control over them. It is your alpha. It is what makes your institution special.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you don’t know yet who’s going to replace them, but you don’t see a big impact from this kind of decision. It was certainly a huge story for Silicon Valley and the defense space to hear that–

    SHYAM SANKAR: It’s already been replaced. It’s already been replaced, and users who are building AI applications get to pick the models that they’re using. It’s a suite of models that are available from, you know, Google, from XAI, from OpenAI. And what was the second part of your question there, sorry?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, I was asking about the impact. It sounds like you don’t think it’s- it’s a big one. Look, I can move on here.

    SHYAM SANKAR: No impact.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You have said recently that the war in Iran is the first major conflict where AI played a central role, particularly for targeting. Do you see risks for that?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, you know, targeting is this- is kind of this very salacious word. Really, targeting is a process, and if you think about military operations, you know, the ability to execute 1000 strikes in a single day would have taken two weeks of planning by 50 people before, and being able to do that with one person in four hours provides you a significant battlefield advantage against your adversaries. So, it’s really not about, you know, people jump immediately to something like AI picking the targets. That’s not what’s happening. It’s really given a set of effects that you want to create- I want to be able to take out the enemy’s air defenses. Okay, what targets relate to that? Okay, how do I then push them through a process where I understand are any of these targets on the no-strike list? Are any of these targets too close to civilian infrastructure? How do you do all the things that are so susceptible to human error under the time crunch- what’s doing in a way that has much higher repeatability and accuracy, so you can get more throughput to the system?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, that goes to a broader argument about the elimination of some of the people who were involved in mitigating civilian impact from strikes. That was a Pentagon decision by Secretary Hegseth. In the case- you just talked about the thousands of strikes, and there were so many successful strikes in terms of the targeting in Iran. But there was also, as you know, this horrific one in Minab that killed at least 123 schoolchildren. Bloomberg reported some personnel relied too much on the AI in the Maven system made by Palantir using AI-enabled software. Have you determined what happened there?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, we should wait for the final report. But what I can say is that reporting is inaccurate.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: The reporting from Bloomberg, you’re saying, is inaccurate?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Yeah, it’s inaccurate, and actually, the likely cause is human error. And then- and quickly following that, we actually built additional AI agents that did more checking. That’s part of the process we don’t own, but responding to the urgency of the moment, we built additional AI that actually double checks more of the work outside the process that we own to ensure things like that couldn’t happen again.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you’re suggesting it was outdated intelligence or human error that fed information into the computer system. Is that what you’re saying?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, we should wait for the final report, but I think we will find–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you know when that’ll be released?

    SHYAM SANKAR: I don’t.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Because the initial reports have been widely reported on, including by this network. Do you see a harm in that being made public soon, or is it helpful to what you say are improvements you want to make?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, I- I will defer to the Department on the- on the timing of how- I have no control over that. But yeah, I would love the- the truth to get out there.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But you believe that it was human error. That’s what you’re saying, not what they’re reporting, which is that they were relying too much on the AI.

    SHYAM SANKAR: The Bloomberg reporting is wrong. Yeah.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: There are 120 House Democrats who wrote to Secretary Hegseth about this particular case and the use of AI in the strike, including Maven. Do you have any intention to go brief Congress about it or to share information?

    SHYAM SANKAR: We have given briefings to Congress, and- and they can, you know, Congress is well aware of the capabilities of Maven.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But in terms of this strike and what went wrong, obviously something went wrong.

    SHYAM SANKAR: I would defer to the Department on that. That’s- that’s not our place.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But it is because you are such a- Palantir is such- so interwoven with the U.S. government. I mean, it’s billions of dollars of government contracts right now, do you think more information should be briefed to Congress about the benefits along with the risks?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Sadly, I’m just a technologist. I mean, on these policy issues, I would defer to others.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, I want to quickly ask you before we go about the modernization efforts, which you are part of. I understand you are lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserves in the Army Executive Innovation Corps.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Correct.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Which is new.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Yeah.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: There are also executives from Meta and OpenAI. So, what are you working on there?

    SHYAM SANKAR: My principal role is to help with Army human resourcing in the G-1 department here. So, strategies on how do we, you know, the Army is drowning in talent, what we would call green suiters who actually know how to code, and they’re- they’re- they’re exceptional. How do we employ them? You know, they don’t fit in the kind of industrial era model, the Napoleonic codes. Their skills are kind of rank blind. You might have an E-4 who’s an exceptionally good coder. There’s not an obvious career path for them within the Army. The Army doesn’t know how to manage that talent. So, how do we identify who these exceptional people are? How do we protect them? How do we put them on projects that fully utilize their skills and turn them into valuable assets for- for the military?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So that’s your role within this Corps?

    SHYAM SANKAR: That’s right.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So for people who look at that and say these big corporations could have a conflict of interest because they’re also doing business with the U.S. government. How do you respond to that?

    SHYAM SANKAR: Well, it’s carefully managed by- by the- the lawyers in the Department. We’re only allowed to work on projects where we don’t have conflicts.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: And do you think–

    SHYAM SANKAR: I would just say, more broadly, I mean it is the greatest honor to be able to serve in our U.S. military. You know, as an immigrant to this country, it’s one of these- My father, my late father, would have loved to have seen me go to a service academy. Life worked out the way it worked out. Arguably, I hope I have more to give back to my country in this capacity at 44 than I did at 24, and it’s a great pride.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Thank you for your time today, Shyam.

    SHYAM SANKAR: Thank you.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll be back in a moment.

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    2026-10-11 22:23 / 联合早报

    乌克兰总统泽连斯基星期天(10月11日)说,如果俄罗斯同意全面停火60天,乌克兰就可以举行选举。 (路透社)

    乌克兰总统泽连斯基说,如果俄罗斯同意全面停火60天,乌克兰就可以举行选举。他回应美国总统特朗普要求乌克兰更换领导人的言论时,强调乌克兰领导人应由本国人民决定。

    泽连斯基星期天(10月11日)接受美国广播公司(ABC)节目访问时说,他已向特朗普团队表明,如果美方希望乌克兰举行选举,就应该要求普京同意停火。

    他说:“请告诉普京,给我们两个月,也就是60天的全面停火,我们就能组织选举。”

    特朗普:俄乌战争进入“能源停火”状态

    特朗普星期天则在社媒发文称,即刻起,俄乌战争进入“能源停火”状态,双方均已同意。

    不过,泽连斯基随后接受美国新闻网站Axios简短访问时说,特朗普的宣布对他而言也是“新消息”。

    但他表明,“如果俄罗斯同意能源停火,乌克兰也会同意”。

    他进一步指出:“如果特朗普总统已与普京谈妥,请告诉我们停火何时开始。我们已经准备好,也会接受。”

    特朗普星期六(10日)在白宫告诉记者:“我认为乌克兰是时候换一位新总统了。”

    对此,泽连斯基强调,选择国家领导人“应由乌克兰人民决定”,并指出普京同样希望乌克兰更换领导人。

    特朗普也批评乌克兰袭击俄罗斯炼油厂,导致燃油价格上涨。此前一天,美国宣布暂时放宽对俄罗斯的战时制裁,以换取俄罗斯供应大量柴油。泽连斯基批评美国是给普京送礼,指这不利于结束俄乌战争。

    泽连斯基反驳说,当全世界都明白燃油价格上涨是受到中东战争影响时,却很容易把责任归咎于乌克兰。

    泽连斯基星期天早些时候也提出,只要俄罗斯停止袭击乌克兰能源基础设施,乌方就愿意停止打击俄罗斯炼油厂。他强调,任何缓和局势的措施都必须是对等的,并获得实际保障。

  • 塔珀就纽约枪击事件后移民海关执法局的战术质询穆林部长


    2026-10-11T14:31:20.814Z / CNN 政治频道

    穆林谈及移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像是否会公布:‘我确信会的’

    By 杰克·塔珀,CNN
    更新于美国东部时间2026年10月11日周日上午10:33

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/11/politics/video/mullin-ice-shooting-sotu

    穆林谈及移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像是否会公布:‘我确信会的’

    美国国土安全部部长穆林就纽约移民海关执法局枪击事件的调查以及移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像何时公布发表了讲话。

    0:43 • 来源:CNN

    By Jake Tapper, CNN

    Updated 10:33 AM EDT, Sun October 11, 2026

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/11/politics/video/mullin-ice-shooting-sotu

    Mullin on if ICE body camera footage will be released: ‘I’m sure it will be’

    Homeland Security Secretary Mullin discusses the investigation into the New York ICE shooting and when the ICE body camera footage could be released.

    0:43 • Source: CNN

  • 民主党人克里斯·帕帕斯:在新罕布什尔州“激烈选战”中“我们不会掉以轻心”


    2026年10月11日 美国东部时间上午11:19 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    华盛顿——
    正在新罕布什尔州竞选联邦参议员的民主党众议员克里斯·帕帕斯周日表示,随着选举日临近,在这个“花岗岩之州”(新罕布什尔州别称)的选战正“激烈进行”,他表示“我们不会掉以轻心”。

    “我对选战最终结果抱有期待,但我们必须在接下来的23天里全力以赴,”帕帕斯在《玛格丽特·布伦南与媒体面对面》节目中说道。

    帕帕斯自2019年起在众议院代表新罕布什尔州,此次对手是前共和党参议员约翰·苏努努,这场竞选可能会决定哪个政党掌控参议院。尽管民主党参议员珍妮·沙欣宣布不再寻求连任后,共和党一直视 flipping 该席位为潜在机会,但哥伦比亚广播公司新闻将新罕布什尔州评级为“倾向民主党”。

    但帕帕斯表示,鉴于新罕布什尔州整体属于摇摆州,且该州没有提前投票选项,他的竞选团队不会掉以轻心。他说,当前的重点是“如何争取那些无党派的摇摆选民,如何动员基础选民,如何在接下来的23天里接触共和党人,以赢得这场激烈的选战”。

    帕帕斯指出,2016年新罕布什尔州参议院竞选的胜负差距仅为1000多票,并承认对手家族在该州政坛占据主导地位。

    “我对手的政治背景在新罕布什尔州非常有名,他曾担任过美国参议员,”帕帕斯说,“但这不是回到过去那些带着失败理念的失败政客的时代,而是着眼于未来。”

    苏努努是前州长约翰·H·苏努努之子、前州长克里斯·苏努努的兄弟,曾在众议院和参议院代表新罕布什尔州,直到2008年竞选连任输给沙欣。他曾多次与特朗普总统划清界限,如今正竞选重返参议院,而当前美国与伊朗的不得人心的战争以及高油价对选情造成影响。

    但帕帕斯将苏努努的竞选与特朗普的整体议程绑定,并将这场竞争定位为争夺参议院多数席位的更大规模斗争。

    “事实是,唐纳德·特朗普曾说过‘把我算在选票里’,”帕帕斯说,“他通过约翰·苏努努这样的候选人参与选举,这些人将维持他在参议院的多数席位,这会让我们更难追究本届政府的责任,解决华盛顿的腐败文化,并为新罕布什尔州的家庭争取降低生活成本。”

    被问及如果民主党赢得参众两院控制权,其优先事项是什么时,帕帕斯表示“我们必须像聚焦激光一样聚焦于民众当下面临的经济挑战”。

    “我们必须为工人和中产阶级取得一些胜利,”他说,“我们可以通过推进我们通过的住房法案取得成功,投资我们所需的经济适用房存量,努力结束这场战争并降低能源价格,恢复对医疗保健的削减——这些削减正导致数千名新罕布什尔州民众失去医疗保险,让人们更难获得所需的医疗服务。”

    在移民执法方面,帕帕斯强调需要改革,而其他民主党人呼吁彻底解散移民及海关执法局。

    “我们必须务实——唐纳德·特朗普将在未来两年担任总统。我们必须找到一切可能的杠杆点,遏制我们从移民及海关执法局看到的令人发指的滥用职权行为,”帕帕斯说,“我们必须确保我们打击的是那些违法的最恶劣罪犯,同时尊重正当程序权利,确保移民成为我们扩展的美国家庭的一部分。新罕布什尔州民众支持这一立场。”

    Democrat Chris Pappas says “we’re taking nothing for granted” amid “tough race” in New Hampshire

    2026-10-11 11:19 AM EDT / CBS News

    Washington —
    Democratic Rep. Chris Pappas, who’s running to represent New Hampshire in the Senate, said on Sunday that “we’re taking nothing for granted” as Election Day approaches, amid a “tough race” in the Granite State.

    “I’m hopeful about where we’re going to end up at the end of this thing, but we’ve got to put in the work over the next 23 days,” Pappas said on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan.”

    Pappas, who’s represented New Hampshire in the House since 2019, is facing off against former GOP Sen. John Sununu in a race that could be key to determining which party controls the Senate. And although Republicans have been eyeing a possible opportunity to flip the seat, after Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen announced she wouldn’t seek reelection, CBS News rates New Hampshire as leaning Democrat.

    But Pappas said given New Hampshire’s status as a purple state generally and the state’s lack of early voting options, his campaign is taking nothing for granted. The focus now is on “how we get to those independent, swing voters, how we energize the base, how we reach out to Republicans over the next 23 days to win a tough race,” he said.

    Pappas noted that the 2016 Senate race in New Hampshire came down to just over 1,000 votes, and acknowledged how his opponent’s family has been dominant in Granite State politics.

    “I’m up against a candidate with a very famous political pedigree in New Hampshire. He’s been a U.S. senator before,” Pappas said. “But this isn’t about going back to the failed politicians with failed ideas from the past, it’s about looking ahead to the future.”

    Sununu, the son of former Gov. John H. Sununu and brother of former Gov. Chris Sununu, represented New Hampshire in the House and Senate until he lost his reelection bid to Shaheen in 2008. And with a record of breaking with President Trump, he’s distanced himself from the president as he campaigns to return to the upper chamber amid an unpopular war with Iran and high gas prices.

    But Pappas tied Sununu’s campaign to the president’s agenda more broadly, and positioned the contest as a larger fight for the Senate majority.

    “The fact is, Donald Trump has said this, that ‘pretend I’m on the ballot,’” Pappas said. “He’s on the ballot through candidates like John Sununu, who will maintain his majority in the U.S. Senate, will make it harder for us to hold this administration to account to address the culture of corruption in Washington and fight to lower costs for New Hampshire families.”

    Asked about Democrats’ priorities should they win control of the House and Senate, Pappas said “we have to focus like a laser on the economic challenges that people are living right now.”

    “We have to put some wins on the board for workers and the middle class,” he said. “We can do that by building on the success of the housing bill that we passed to invest in the affordable housing stock that we need, to work to end this war and lower energy prices, to restore the cuts to healthcare that are kicking thousands of Granite Staters off of their health insurance and making it harder for people to access the care that they need.”

    On immigration enforcement, Pappas has emphasized the need for reforms, while other Democrats have called for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to be disbanded entirely.

    “We have to be realistic — Donald Trump’s going to be president for the next two years. We got to find every point of leverage we possibly can to rein in the disgusting abuses we have seen from ICE,” Pappas said. “We have to make sure that we are going after the worst of the worst criminals that are violating the law, while also respecting due process rights and making sure that immigrants are part of our extended American family. And people in New Hampshire support that.”

  • 穆林谈移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像是否会公布:“我确信会发布”


    美国东部时间2026年10月11日周日上午10:36 / 美国有线电视新闻网(CNN)

    记者:杰克·塔珀,美国有线电视新闻网

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/11/politics/video/mullin-ice-tactics-sotu

    穆林谈移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像是否会公布:“我确信会发布”

    美国国土安全部部长穆林就纽约移民海关执法局枪击事件调查以及移民海关执法局随身摄像头录像何时能够公布发表了谈话。

    9:25 • 消息来源:美国有线电视新闻网

    Mullin on if ICE body camera footage will be released: ‘I’m sure it will be’

    10:36 AM EDT, Sun October 11, 2026 / CNN

    By Jake Tapper, CNN

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/11/politics/video/mullin-ice-tactics-sotu

    Mullin on if ICE body camera footage will be released: ‘I’m sure it will be’

    Homeland Security Secretary Mullin discusses the investigation into the New York ICE shooting and when the ICE body camera footage could be released.

    9:25 • Source: CNN

  • 新闻


    沙特首都利雅得再传两声爆炸 防空系统拦截导弹
    2026-10-11 23:02 / 联合早报

    沙特领导的阿拉伯联军星期天(10月11日)说,防空系统在利雅得哈立德国王国际机场附近拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。图摄于9月19日的哈立德国王国际机场。 (法新社)

    沙特阿拉伯首都利雅得星期天再传出两声爆炸巨响。沙特领导的阿拉伯联军说,防空系统在利雅得哈立德国王国际机场附近拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。

    联军发言人星期天(10月11日)在社媒发文说,哈立德国王国际机场第四客运大楼遭不明飞行物袭击,袭击引发的火势正由现场有关当局处理。

    联军也通报,防空系统在机场附近成功拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。

    法新社记者星期天在利雅得市中心听到一声震耳欲聋的爆炸声,随后有三名居住在首都北部的居民称,也听到另一声爆炸巨响。

    一名住在利雅得北部阿里德区(Al-Aarid)的居民说:“巨响过后,鸟儿都惊慌乱飞,整栋房子也跟着震动。”

    目前尚不清楚居民听到的爆炸声是否与联军通报的袭击及导弹拦截行动有关。

    也门胡塞武装星期六(10日)袭击哈立德国王国际机场,造成12人死亡、300多人受伤。

    沙特首都利雅得再传两声爆炸 防空系统拦截导弹

    2026-10-11 23:02 / 联合早报

    沙特领导的阿拉伯联军星期天(10月11日)说,防空系统在利雅得哈立德国王国际机场附近拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。图摄于9月19日的哈立德国王国际机场。 (法新社)

    沙特阿拉伯首都利雅得星期天再传出两声爆炸巨响。沙特领导的阿拉伯联军说,防空系统在利雅得哈立德国王国际机场附近拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。

    联军发言人星期天(10月11日)在社媒发文说,哈立德国王国际机场第四客运大楼遭不明飞行物袭击,袭击引发的火势正由现场有关当局处理。

    联军也通报,防空系统在机场附近成功拦截并摧毁一枚巡航导弹。

    法新社记者星期天在利雅得市中心听到一声震耳欲聋的爆炸声,随后有三名居住在首都北部的居民称,也听到另一声爆炸巨响。

    一名住在利雅得北部阿里德区(Al-Aarid)的居民说:“巨响过后,鸟儿都惊慌乱飞,整栋房子也跟着震动。”

    目前尚不清楚居民听到的爆炸声是否与联军通报的袭击及导弹拦截行动有关。

    也门胡塞武装星期六(10日)袭击哈立德国王国际机场,造成12人死亡、300多人受伤。

  • 特朗普:俄乌同意“能源停火” 乌克兰否认


    2026-10-11 23:20 / 联合早报

    • 特朗普宣布俄乌已同意停止打击彼此能源基础设施,实施“能源停火”,但未透露细节。
    • 泽连斯基称该声明对他而言是“新消息”,但表示若莫斯科同意,基辅也会接受。
    • 特朗普此前宣布放宽对俄制裁以换取柴油供应,并指责泽连斯基袭击俄炼油厂推高油价。
    • 泽连斯基回应称,若俄罗斯同意全面停火60天,乌克兰将举行大选。

    美国与俄罗斯就俄柴油出口的协定,不但引发了国际社会的批评,更引来一场美国总统特朗普(右)和乌克兰总统泽连斯基之间的隔空互批。图为两人9月22日在纽约举行的联合国大会期间会面。 (法新社档案照片)

    (华盛顿/基辅综合电)美国总统特朗普在指责乌克兰总统泽连斯基执意袭击俄罗斯炼油厂的行为推高了全球油价,并建议乌克兰换个新总统之后,突然宣布俄乌双方已同意停止打击彼此的能源基础设施,但泽连斯基否认。

    特朗普星期天(10月11日)在他的社媒平台Truth Social上发文说:“即刻起,俄乌战争实施‘能源停火’。双方均已同意。切勿破坏!”

    特朗普未透露细节,但泽连斯基随后告诉美国新闻网站Axios,特朗普关于能源停火的声明对他来说是“新消息”。不过他也说,如果莫斯科同意“能源停火”,基辅也会接受。

    美俄柴油协定引发美乌领导人矛盾

    特朗普星期五(9日)与俄罗斯总统普京会谈后宣布,放宽对俄罗斯的战时制裁,以换取俄罗斯供应大量柴油,以期在美国中期选举前压低能源价格,缓解共和党选情压力。俄罗斯次日便宣布部分解除柴油出口禁令,先向全球市场供应50万吨柴油。

    泽连斯基批评美国此举是给普京送礼,指这不利于结束俄乌战争,甚至将俄军星期六对乌克兰东南重镇扎波罗热的袭击,归为“对美国的谢礼”。这场袭击造成了20人死亡,其中包括三名儿童。

    特朗普星期六(10日)在白宫对媒体讲话时,则反指泽连斯基执意袭击俄炼油厂的行为损害了全球柴油供应、导致美国柴油价格飙升,并要求乌克兰停止这类袭击。

    特朗普说:“我跟他(泽连斯基)说过,‘你想干什么就干什么,但别打炼油厂。目标有的是,别打炼油厂。’可他还是跑去打了。他最好赶紧给我打住。”

    他补充道:“我建议(乌克兰)找一个能达成协议的新领导人,因为他本可以达成很多协议,但出于某种原因他从不这么做。”

    特朗普也说,普京“强烈”希望看到一项和解方案,“但不知出于什么原因,泽连斯基不想达成协议”。

    泽连斯基星期天接受美国广播公司(ABC)访谈时回应说,如果俄罗斯同意完全停火60天,乌克兰就将举行大选。

    泽连斯基对特朗普喊话道:“请告诉普京,给我们两个月,60天的全面停火,只要60天,我们就会组织大选。”

    英国与欧盟表态支持基辅

    特朗普与普京的柴油协定,引来美国国内及以欧洲为主的国际社会批评。

    阿拉斯加州共和党籍参议员穆尔科斯基(Lisa Murkowski)批评特朗普此举是在给战争输血。她在社媒写道:“战争结束后我们可以讨论俄罗斯重返全球能源市场的问题,但在此期间,我们需要断绝一切为战争输血的东西。”

    欧盟外交与安全政策高级代表卡拉斯批评,解除对俄罗斯的制裁只会助长俄罗斯的战争势头,并强调欧洲不会这样做。

    英国首相伯纳姆也在星期六与泽连斯基通电话,向他重申英国完全支持乌克兰,并承诺将继续加强对俄罗斯的制裁。

    特朗普:俄乌同意“能源停火” 乌克兰否认

    2026-10-11 23:20 / 联合早报

    • 特朗普宣布俄乌已同意停止打击彼此能源基础设施,实施“能源停火”,但未透露细节。 – 泽连斯基称该声明对他而言是“新消息”,但表示若莫斯科同意,基辅也会接受。 – 特朗普此前宣布放宽对俄制裁以换取柴油供应,并指责泽连斯基袭击俄炼油厂推高油价。 – 泽连斯基回应称,若俄罗斯同意全面停火60天,乌克兰将举行大选。

    美国与俄罗斯就俄柴油出口的协定,不但引发了国际社会的批评,更引来一场美国总统特朗普(右)和乌克兰总统泽连斯基之间的隔空互批。图为两人9月22日在纽约举行的联合国大会期间会面。 (法新社档案照片)

    (华盛顿/基辅综合电)美国总统特朗普在指责乌克兰总统泽连斯基执意袭击俄罗斯炼油厂的行为推高了全球油价,并建议乌克兰换个新总统之后,突然宣布俄乌双方已同意停止打击彼此的能源基础设施,但泽连斯基否认。

    特朗普星期天(10月11日)在他的社媒平台Truth Social上发文说:“即刻起,俄乌战争实施‘能源停火’。双方均已同意。切勿破坏!”

    特朗普未透露细节,但泽连斯基随后告诉美国新闻网站Axios,特朗普关于能源停火的声明对他来说是“新消息”。不过他也说,如果莫斯科同意“能源停火”,基辅也会接受。

    美俄柴油协定引发美乌领导人矛盾

    特朗普星期五(9日)与俄罗斯总统普京会谈后宣布,放宽对俄罗斯的战时制裁,以换取俄罗斯供应大量柴油,以期在美国中期选举前压低能源价格,缓解共和党选情压力。俄罗斯次日便宣布部分解除柴油出口禁令,先向全球市场供应50万吨柴油。

    泽连斯基批评美国此举是给普京送礼,指这不利于结束俄乌战争,甚至将俄军星期六对乌克兰东南重镇扎波罗热的袭击,归为“对美国的谢礼”。这场袭击造成了20人死亡,其中包括三名儿童。

    特朗普星期六(10日)在白宫对媒体讲话时,则反指泽连斯基执意袭击俄炼油厂的行为损害了全球柴油供应、导致美国柴油价格飙升,并要求乌克兰停止这类袭击。

    特朗普说:“我跟他(泽连斯基)说过,‘你想干什么就干什么,但别打炼油厂。目标有的是,别打炼油厂。’可他还是跑去打了。他最好赶紧给我打住。”

    他补充道:“我建议(乌克兰)找一个能达成协议的新领导人,因为他本可以达成很多协议,但出于某种原因他从不这么做。”

    特朗普也说,普京“强烈”希望看到一项和解方案,“但不知出于什么原因,泽连斯基不想达成协议”。

    泽连斯基星期天接受美国广播公司(ABC)访谈时回应说,如果俄罗斯同意完全停火60天,乌克兰就将举行大选。

    泽连斯基对特朗普喊话道:“请告诉普京,给我们两个月,60天的全面停火,只要60天,我们就会组织大选。”

    英国与欧盟表态支持基辅

    特朗普与普京的柴油协定,引来美国国内及以欧洲为主的国际社会批评。

    阿拉斯加州共和党籍参议员穆尔科斯基(Lisa Murkowski)批评特朗普此举是在给战争输血。她在社媒写道:“战争结束后我们可以讨论俄罗斯重返全球能源市场的问题,但在此期间,我们需要断绝一切为战争输血的东西。”

    欧盟外交与安全政策高级代表卡拉斯批评,解除对俄罗斯的制裁只会助长俄罗斯的战争势头,并强调欧洲不会这样做。

    英国首相伯纳姆也在星期六与泽连斯基通电话,向他重申英国完全支持乌克兰,并承诺将继续加强对俄罗斯的制裁。

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    文字实录:新罕布什尔州联邦参议员候选人、众议员克里斯·帕帕斯做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目 2026年10月11日

    2026-10-11T11:28:58-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是民主党新罕布什尔州联邦参议员候选人、众议员克里斯·帕帕斯于2026年10月11日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目中接受采访的完整文字实录。


    玛格丽特·布伦南: 接下来我们连线从曼彻斯特赶来的众议员克里斯·帕帕斯,他将在家乡新罕布什尔州参选联邦参议员。早上好。

    众议员克里斯·帕帕斯: 你好,玛格丽特。早上好。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 哥伦比亚广播公司的预测显示,新罕布什尔州不再是摇摆州,而是倾向民主党。在竞选的最后几周里,你的竞选重点是什么?

    众议员帕帕斯: 我们在这场竞选中不会掉以轻心,因为新罕布什尔州是一个紫色州,而且我们州通常没有提前投票,所有选票都要在选举日当天投放。因此,我们的重点是如何争取独立摇摆选民,如何动员基础选民,如何在接下来的23天里接触共和党选民,以赢得这场艰难的竞选。2016年新罕布什尔州的参议院选举仅以1017票的差距决出胜负。我的对手在新罕布什尔州拥有非常显赫的政治家世,他曾担任过联邦参议员。但这场竞选不是要让过去那些理念失败的政客重返政坛,而是要着眼未来,拿出勇气对抗那些让生活成本越来越高的鲁莽政府,我们要努力降低生活成本——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。

    众议员帕帕斯: ——我们要让新罕布什尔州的普通民众了解我们可以共同打造的未来。因此,我对竞选的最终结果抱有希望,但我们必须在接下来的23天里付出努力,才能改变华盛顿的现状,为新罕布什尔州带来应有的成果。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 从全国范围来看,民主党似乎都在打着反特朗普的旗号参选。而在你这场竞选中,你提到了对手约翰·苏努努,他的存在让这一策略难以奏效。他曾是反对特朗普的共和党人,批评对加拿大的贸易战,不赞同特朗普发放5000美元支票的做法,还曾表示在没有霍尔木兹海峡应对策略的情况下发动对伊朗战争是错误的。尽管他得到了特朗普的背书,但在某些方面他确实与总统保持了距离。你如何在你试图争取的共和党选民心中厘清这一点?

    众议员帕帕斯: 约翰·苏努努自己已经说得很清楚了。他说这场竞选对唐纳德·特朗普的议程至关重要,有助于巩固特朗普为美国人民取得的成果。但我不知道那些所谓的成果究竟是什么——如果你给家用取暖油罐加油要花1000美元,每加仑柴油要花6.5美元,或者住房成本高得离谱,那你现在绝对不会觉得自己过得很好。事实上,特朗普曾说过“假装我在选票上”。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。

    众议员帕帕斯: 他通过约翰·苏努努这样的候选人参与选举,这些候选人会维持共和党在参议院的多数席位,让我们更难问责本届政府,更难打击华盛顿的腐败风气,更难为新罕布什尔州的家庭降低生活成本。因此,约翰·苏努努在这场竞选中是站在特朗普一边的,他一直支持特朗普的政策。事实上,他上次在任期间,一直追随乔治·W·布什发动无休止的战争、将社会保障私有化、为富人减税。那套政策在新罕布什尔州就行不通,如今他也无法代表我们需要的、能够降低生活成本、让经济惠及所有人的未来。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但如果民主党夺回国会控制权,民主党具体打算怎么做来阻止特朗普,正如你刚才所说?是弹劾吗?还是展开调查?

    众议员帕帕斯: 问责肯定是必要的,美国人民有权了解政府的运作情况,任何形式的腐败都必须被铲除。但我们必须将全部精力集中在民众当前面临的经济挑战上。我们必须为工人和中产阶级争取到实际成果。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你们要怎么做?

    众议员帕帕斯: 我们可以在我们通过的住房法案基础上再接再厉,投资建设我们亟需的保障性住房存量,努力结束战争、降低能源价格,恢复对医保的削减——这些削减已经导致数千名新罕布什尔州民众失去医保,让人们更难获得所需的医疗服务。因此,我们必须全力以赴推进降低生活成本的议程,这项议程将从明年1月开始实施,我认为这是一项短期、中期和长期的战略,旨在改变当前被操纵的经济格局,为中产阶级家庭和工人带来实实在在的成果。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你提到要恢复医保削减,我想你指的是扩大保费补贴,也就是说你希望政府在医疗保健上增加支出,这是你的竞选纲领吗?

    众议员帕帕斯: 我希望新罕布什尔州的家庭能够负担得起合理的医保保费,让他们能够养家糊口。由于未能延长《平价医疗法案》的保费补贴,我所在的州已有1.7万人放弃了医保。而且我们还面临着 Medicaid(医疗补助计划)的大幅削减,这将摧毁我们的医院、医疗中心和疗养院——这一削减被刻意安排在选举后立即生效,居心叵测。因此,我们的重点既要确保《平价医疗法案》顺利实施,问责保险公司和制药公司以降低药价,也要确保我们能够弥补对医疗补助计划的削减,避免农村医疗服务、服务不足地区的医疗服务被这些“让美国再次伟大”派的削减措施破坏乃至摧毁——这些削减措施是去年那项“宏大漂亮法案”的一部分。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧——

    众议员帕帕斯: ——即去年的《减税与就业法案》。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧,如果民主党真的掌控国会,还会面临一个问题:民主党有没有统一的愿景,以及民主党能否实现党内团结。外界对移民海关执法局(ICE)的讨论很多。你曾提出一项法案,打算将750亿美元的ICE资金转拨给地方执法机构。你认为ICE需要改革,这与你的一些民主党同僚的观点不同,他们主张彻底解散ICE,包括隔壁缅因州的参议员候选人特洛伊·杰克逊,他就表示必须彻底改组ICE。为什么他的观点是错误的?为什么你的方法才是正确的?

    众议员帕帕斯: 我们必须现实一点。唐纳德·特朗普还会在任两年。我们必须尽一切可能利用一切杠杆,遏制我们从ICE那里看到的令人发指的滥用职权行为。从缅因州比迪福德,到明尼阿波利斯,再到德克萨斯州,这种情况对新罕布什尔州民众来说是不可接受的,对跨政治立场的选民来说也是不可接受的。因此,我们需要问责。我们需要收回去年国会拨付给他们的750亿美元无附加条件、无有效监督的“ slush fund(贪腐基金)”。我们需要确保ICE官员的行为符合我们信任的地方执法部门的标准,确保他们佩戴身份标识、接受降级冲突培训、配备随身摄像头。所有这些都将是朝着正确方向迈出的一步。但事实是,美国是一个移民国家,我们必须确保我们只针对那些最恶劣的违法犯罪分子——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。

    众议员帕帕斯: ——同时尊重正当程序权利,确保移民成为我们美国大家庭的一员。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的。

    众议员帕帕斯: 新罕布什尔州的民众支持这一立场。我希望我们能够推进移民改革,让移民能够通过努力工作、辛勤付出——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。

    众议员帕帕斯: ——获得公民身份,同时确保我们的企业能够从中受益。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错。那你届时将不得不与共和党总统合作推动这些法案。帕帕斯众议员,非常感谢你抽出时间接受采访。我们稍后将继续节目。

    Transcript: Rep. Chris Pappas on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Oct. 11, 2026

    2026-10-11T11:28:58-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Democratic New Hampshire Senate candidate Rep. Chris Pappas that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Oct. 11, 2026.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Congressman Chris Pappas, who’s running for the U.S. Senate in his native New Hampshire, and he joins us from Manchester. Good morning to you.

    REP. CHRIS PAPPAS: Hi, Margaret. Good morning.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, CBS projects that New Hampshire is no longer a toss-up but lean Democrat. So, what are you focused on in these final weeks of the campaign?

    REP. PAPPAS: Well, we’re taking nothing for granted in this race because New Hampshire is a purple state, and we’re an all-election-day state where we don’t have early voting generally in New Hampshire. So, it’s focused on how we get to those independent swing voters, how we energize the base, how we reach out to Republicans over the next 23 days to win a tough race. Our Senate race in 2016 in New Hampshire was decided by 1,017 votes. I’m up against a candidate with a very famous political pedigree in New Hampshire. He’s been a U.S. senator before, but this isn’t about going back to the failed politicians with failed ideas from the past. It’s about looking ahead to the future, how we muster the courage to stand up to a reckless administration that’s making life more expensive, how we fight to lower costs–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

    REP. PAPPAS: –how we connect with everyday Granite Staters about the kind of future we can build together. So, I’m hopeful about where we’re going to end up at the end of this thing, but we’ve got to put in the work over the next 23 days in order to change things in Washington and deliver the results New Hampshire deserves.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, Democrats do seem nationally to be running on an anti-Trump agenda. In your particular race, you mentioned John Sununu, your opponent. He doesn’t make that strategy easy because he used to be a never-Trumper. He criticizes the trade war with Canada. He doesn’t like Trump sending $5,000 checks out. He said it was a mistake to start the war with Iran without a strategy for the Strait of Hormuz, I mean, he has distanced himself in some ways from the president, though he is endorsed by Mr. Trump. How do you split that in the minds of the Republicans that you are trying to win over?

    REP. PAPPAS: John Sununu has said it out loud. He said that this race is important to Donald Trump’s agenda and to protect the gains that Donald Trump has made for the American people. Now I don’t know what those gains are because if you’re paying 1,000 bucks to fill up your home heating oil tank, or $6.50 to put diesel in your car for every gallon, or housing costs that are through the roof, you’re not feeling like you’re winning right now. So the fact is, Donald Trump has said this- that “pretend I’m on the ballot.”

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

    REP. PAPPAS: He’s on the ballot through candidates like John Sununu, who will maintain his majority in the U.S. Senate, will make it harder for us to hold this administration to account to address the culture of corruption in Washington and fight to lower costs for New Hampshire families. So John Sununu stands with Trump in this campaign. He’s been supporting his agenda. The fact is, the last time he was in office, he stood with George W. Bush for forever wars, privatizing Social Security, and tax cuts for the rich. That didn’t work for New Hampshire then, and he doesn’t represent the kind of future we need to lower cost and get this economy working for everyone.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But if Democrats flip control of Congress, what specifically does the party want to do to stop Mr. Trump, as you just laid out? I mean, is- is that impeachment? Is that investigation?

    REP. PAPPAS: Certainly, there has to be accountability, and the American people deserve to know what’s going on in the government, and any sort of corruption has to be rooted out. But we have to focus like a laser on the economic challenges that people are living right now. We have to put some wins on the board for workers and the middle class.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: How do you do that?

    REP. PAPPAS: We can do that by building on the success of the housing bill that we passed to invest in the affordable housing stock that we need, to work to end this war and lower energy prices, to restore the cuts to health care that are kicking thousands of Granite Staters off of their health insurance and making it harder for people to access the care that they need. So, we do have to focus with everything we’ve got on the affordability agenda- that starts in January, and I think that’s both a short, medium and long-term strategy to take on the way this economy has been rigged and deliver results for middle-class families and workers.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You said restore cuts to health care. I think you mean in the enhanced premium subsidies, so you want more government spending on healthcare- is that your platform?

    REP. PAPPAS: I want New Hampshire families to be able to get a healthcare premium that makes sense for them, that will allow them to provide for their families. 17,000 folks in my state have dropped their insurance because of the failure to extend the ACA premium subsidies, and we’re looking at a huge cut with respect to Medicaid that’s going to devastate our hospitals, health centers, and nursing homes- cynically, timed to kick in just after this election. So, it’s a focus both on making the Affordable Care Act work, taking the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies to account to lower prices, and making sure we’re backstopping these cuts to Medicaid so that rural healthcare, healthcare for people in underserved areas doesn’t get disrupted, and you know, destroyed by these MAGA cuts that were–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well–

    REP. PAPPAS: –part of the Big Beautiful Bill last year.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, if Democrats do take control, there’s also going to be that question of what is the unified vision for the party and can you unify your party? There’s been a lot of focus on ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You sponsored a bill that would redirect $75 billion in ICE funding to local law enforcement agencies. You say ICE needs reform. That’s different from some of your Democratic colleagues who are saying “disband ICE entirely,” including just right next door in Maine, where Troy Jackson, who’s running for Senate, says you got to break it up. Why is he wrong? Why is your approach the way to go?

    REP. PAPPAS: Well, we have to be realistic. Donald Trump’s going to be president for the next two years. We’ve got to find every point of leverage we possibly can to rein in the disgusting abuses we have seen from ICE. From next door in Biddeford, Maine, to Minneapolis, to Texas, this is unacceptable to people in New Hampshire, and it’s unacceptable to voters across the political spectrum. So, we need accountability. We need to take back the extra money that they were given in that slush fund last year, $75 billion, with no strings attached by Congress, with no meaningful oversight. We need to make sure that ICE officers are conducting themselves like our trusted local law enforcement does, making sure that they’re identified, that they have de-escalation training, that they have body cameras. All of that would be a step in the right direction. But the fact is, this is a nation of immigrants, and we have to make sure that we are going after the worst of the worst–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

    REP. PAPPAS: –criminals that are violating the law, while also respecting due process rights and making sure that immigrants are part of our extended American family.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.

    REP. PAPPAS: And people in New Hampshire support that. And I hope we can get to the point where we’re talking about immigration reform that will allow immigrants to follow a path, to work hard, to earn–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.

    REP. PAPPAS: –their citizenship, and to ensure that our businesses can benefit from that.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, and then you’d have to work with a Republican president on those things. Congressman Pappas, thank you very much for your time. We’ll be back in a moment.

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    苏丹边境金矿遭空袭 数十名矿工恐丧命

    2026年10月11日 23:39 / 联合早报

    苏丹靠近埃及边境的一处大型金矿遭到多次空袭,数十名矿工恐已丧命,数百人被迫逃离现场。

    两名幸存者星期天(10月11日)告诉法新社,空袭发生在星期六(10日)上午,地点是苏丹东北部靠近红海的乌韦纳特山(Jabal al-Uqaydat)非正规金矿区。

    幸存矿工优素福说,当天上午约8时,一架战机飞抵矿区上空,随后发动五轮空袭。“战机袭击了五次,很多人被炸死。”

    他说,由于现场一片混乱,他无法计算死亡人数。“我们吓得往山上跑,生怕还会有下一轮空袭。”

    另一名幸存者阿里说,空袭发生时,矿区有数千人正在工作。袭击后,矿工四散逃命,有人逃往安萨里市场,也有人往其他方向撤离,因此至今无人能确定死亡人数。

    安萨里市场位于哈拉伊卜三角区以南。哈拉伊卜是苏丹与埃及均宣称拥有主权的边境争议地区,当地山区绵延数百公里,蕴藏丰富金矿资源。

    两名幸存者说,他们逃离时看到地上有遗体,担心还有更多人被埋在废墟下。由于矿场距离最近的城市也有数小时路程,救援工作面临困难。

    苏丹当地媒体报道,空袭造成数十人死亡、数百人受伤。

  • 以色列暗杀真主党首领密谋曝光 内塔尼亚胡曾警告拜登助手会“暴跳如雷”


    以色列安全部门策划的暗杀真主党头号恐怖首领的密谋,引发了是否应提前告知美国的争议。

    2026-10-11T06:00:18-04:00 / 福克斯新闻频道
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    发布于2026年10月11日 美国东部时间早上6:00

    新书披露:内塔尼亚胡担心苏利文会因暗杀纳斯鲁拉“暴跳如雷”
    《战争室》一书合著者埃利奥特·考夫曼向福克斯新闻数字频道讲述了以色列高层的秘密辩论、与拜登政府的紧张关系,以及塑造了对抗真主党和伊朗战争的各项决策。

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    据《华尔街日报》专栏作家埃利奥特·考夫曼和另一位熟悉相关 deliberations 的消息人士透露,2024年9月以色列准备暗杀真主党领导人哈桑·纳斯鲁拉期间,总理本杰明·内塔尼亚胡与其高级国防官员就行动前是否通知拜登政府存在分歧,他们担心华盛顿可能会阻止这次任务。

    考夫曼是《战争室:以色列对抗哈马斯和伊朗轴心的内幕故事》一书的合著者,他在接受福克斯新闻数字频道采访时回忆了相关对话,称内塔尼亚胡曾告诉高级以色列国防官员:“百分之百,他们不会批准这次任务。”

    据考夫曼透露,时任国防部长约阿夫·加兰特和以色列国防军参谋长赫齐·哈莱维主张告知华盛顿,他们认为美国人可能会支持打击这名与美军士兵死亡事件有关联的真主党领导人。但内塔尼亚胡警告称,时任美国国家安全顾问杰克·沙利文如果得知计划,会“暴跳如雷”。

    这场分歧反映出耶路撒冷与华盛顿在以色列针对伊朗地区代理人的军事行动上日益扩大的分歧,当时拜登政府正努力防止冲突升级为更广泛的地区战争。

    “比伊的火烧眉毛”:分析师称特朗普与内塔尼亚胡公开“裂痕”掩盖了对抗伊朗的统一阵线

    2026年3月10日至11日夜间,以色列空袭贝鲁特南郊目标后升起火球。(法德尔·伊塔尼/法新社 盖蒂图片社)

    真主党:内塔尼亚胡关于华盛顿的警告

    2024年9月27日以色列战机袭击真主党位于贝鲁特的总部时,五角大楼称未收到任何提前预警。加兰特在行动已经展开后与时任国防部长劳埃德·奥斯汀通了电话。

    此次袭击造成纳斯鲁拉死亡,这名领导这个伊朗支持的恐怖组织长达三十余年的首领之死,标志着以色列对抗真主党行动的重大转折点。真主党于2023年10月8日,也就是哈马斯对以色列南部发动致命袭击的次日,开辟了对以色列的第二战场,并在此后多次向以色列北部社区发射火箭弹和导弹。

    考夫曼认为,以色列花了近一年时间等待美国外交手段结束真主党对北部社区的袭击,但并未成功。

    “在以色列看来,他们已经静坐等待了10、11个月,而真主党一直在用火箭弹和反坦克导弹袭击以色列北部,他们一直在等待美国外交取得成功,”他说。“但这没用。北部战线必须有所改变。”

    考夫曼表示,这场对峙暴露了两国政府处理战争的根本分歧。

    “美国或许没有置身以色列的战争室,但当它提出要求时,永远无法被排除在谈判桌之外,”他说。

    “我从以色列总理办公室听到的是‘美国的目标是缓和战争。我们的目标是赢得战争’,我们在各个时刻都看到了这种冲突,尤其是在拜登政府执政期间。”

    10月7日:内塔尼亚胡的犹豫与问责问题

    这本由考夫曼和《耶路撒冷邮报》高级军事分析师约纳·杰里米·鲍勃合著的书籍,还描述了内塔尼亚胡在2023年10月7日哈马斯大屠杀后最初如何抵制全面入侵加沙,后来又成为继续战争的最强烈倡导者之一。

    “内塔尼亚胡总理刚刚目睹以色列国防军在10月7日遭遇惨败,以色列情报机构也在10月7日彻底失败,”考夫曼告诉福克斯新闻数字频道。

    据考夫曼透露,拜登总统派遣的高级美国将军也曾警告以色列领导人,地面入侵可能以军事失败告终,即便在加沙城也是如此。

    经过数周的内部辩论,内塔尼亚胡最终于2023年10月27日批准了地面行动。

    “随着时间推移,他会对以色列国防军重拾信心,对军队、以色列情报机构重拾信心,并最终超越、耗尽,甚至干脆解雇了他战争室里的所有对手,”考夫曼说。

    当被问及内塔尼亚胡对10月7日事件的问责时,考夫曼的批评更为尖锐。

    “我曾亲自与内塔尼亚胡总理交谈过数次,电话沟通就更多了。我曾与他进行过一场长达三小时的对话,一直持续到以色列的午夜过后,”考夫曼说。“我从未听他为10月7日发生的事情承担责任。”

    考夫曼表示,内塔尼亚胡反而始终将责任归咎于高级军事官员未能在哈马斯袭击开始前提醒他。“他说的是,6点29分。他们直到10月7日当天早上6点29分才叫醒我,”考夫曼回忆道。

    这番言论正值以色列国内围绕内塔尼亚胡在袭击当日的行动官方记录爆发新争议。

    在以色列第12频道周四播出的一场冗长采访中,时任内塔尼亚胡军事秘书的退役少将阿维·吉尔表示,总理的参谋长察奇·布拉弗曼试图篡改吉尔与内塔尼亚胡之间一次电话通话的官方记录。

    专家呼吁对伊朗“皇冠上的明珠”真主党保持极度谨慎——这支双手沾满美国人鲜血的恐怖组织

    2025年2月1日,在加沙城,哈马斯武装人员在将以美人质基思·西格尔移交红十字会小组前控制了一片区域。哈马斯武装人员在加沙海滨排成整齐队列,以破碎海浪为戏剧性背景展示武力。(赛义德·贾拉斯/中东图片社/法新社 盖蒂图片社)

    吉尔称,一名速记员告诉他,有人指示将他们第一次安全电话通话的记录时间从早上6点40分改为6点29分。吉尔表示,他曾实时向总检察长办公室提出对不规范记录保存的担忧。布拉弗曼承认曾试图更改记录时间,但否认有不当行为。

    吉尔还质疑内塔尼亚胡对大屠杀前事件的公开描述的完整性,称实际发生的情况与向以色列公众披露的内容以及他的书面声明之间存在重大出入。

    利库德集团否认了所谓篡改记录的企图,称“此事已于两年前由警方调查,警方因缺乏实质证据建议结案”。不过,检察官尚未宣布结案决定。

    吉尔还表示,战争早期通过政治考量错失了达成人质协议的机会。

    当被第12频道问及是否有一些在 captivity 中死亡的人质本可以被活着带回时,吉尔回答:“我们本可以做到。”

    他暗示,内塔尼亚胡联盟中的极右翼部长反对停火和人质协议,影响了总理的决策。

    尽管承认以色列高级军事官员认为内塔尼亚胡出于政治原因延长战争,考夫曼却驳斥了政治生存是他唯一动机的说法,他指出以色列随后对真主党和伊朗发动的行动。“有真正的战略利益需要追求,”他说。

    “这场战争几乎所有真正的成果都出现在战争后期,”他说,并认为真主党随后的衰弱、叙利亚阿萨德政权的垮台以及对伊朗核设施的袭击,让“继续战斗只是为了内塔尼亚胡的政治利益”这一说法变得复杂。

    伊朗:以色列如何说服特朗普发动打击

    这本书还探讨了以色列早期对伊朗的军事胜利如何帮助说服唐纳德·特朗普总统在2025年6月为期12天的战争中授权美国打击伊朗核设施。

    考夫曼描述了一名特朗普政府官员向他展示了以色列空袭地图,这些空袭为通往福特ow——伊朗戒备森严的地下核设施——开辟了通道。

    据考夫曼透露,以色列军方参谋长埃亚尔·扎米尔随后直接向副总统J·D·万斯表明,美国军队拥有绝佳的打击机会。

    “你们可以直接打击伊朗的核设施。这将是你们有史以来最佳的机会,”考夫曼转述扎米尔对万斯的话。

    考夫曼表示,以色列军方参谋长告诉万斯,以色列战机已经在该区域上空行动,但美国拥有执行福特ow任务所需的重型钻地炸弹。

    他称赞副总统帮助确保了特朗普最终批准“午夜铁锤行动”。

    “副总统万斯在最终确保美国参与这场高度成功的12天战争中发挥了关键作用,”考夫曼说。

    考夫曼认为,这一描述驳斥了“特朗普是被内塔尼亚胡勉强拖入冲突”的说法,反而将总统描绘成对以色列展示的军事能力所创造的机会做出了回应。

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    美国中央司令部(CENTCOM)司令布拉德·库珀上将近日访问以色列,作为以色列国防军参谋长莱夫坦·埃亚尔·扎米尔的官方客人。中央司令部司令与国防军参谋长首先举行了长时间的一对一会议,随后又举行了有更多指挥官参加的会议。以色列国防军表示,此次会晤是两国指挥官之间关系的又一次体现,也是加强以色列国防军与美国军方密切战略关系以及两国国防合作的又一步骤。(以色列国防军发言人办公室)

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    埃弗拉特(埃菲)·拉赫特是福克斯新闻数字频道的记者,拥有超过15年报道冲突、全球事务、人权和政治问责的经验。她曾执导并制作了200多部纪录片片段,足迹遍布40多个国家,记录了冲突、人道主义危机、腐败、人口贩运、基于性别的暴力以及重大世界事件背后的人文故事。

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    Inside Israel’s plot to kill Hezbollah chief as Netanyahu warned Biden aide would ‘jump out of his skin’

    The Israeli security-hatched plot to eliminate Hezbollah’s top terror chief sparked a debate over whether to alert Washington.

    2026-10-11T06:00:18-04:00 / Fox News

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    Published October 11, 2026 6:00am EDT

    Netanyahu feared Jake Sullivan would ‘jump out of his skin’ over Nasrallah strike, author reveals

    In the War Room co-author Elliot Kaufman tells Fox News Digital about secret Israeli leadership debates, tensions with the Biden administration and the decisions that shaped the wars against Hezbollah and Iran.

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    As Israel prepared to assassinate Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in September 2024, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his senior defense officials disagreed over whether to notify the Biden administration ahead of the operation, fearing Washington could try to stop the mission, according to Wall Street Journal editorial writer Elliot Kaufman and a second source familiar with the deliberations.

    “140%, they won’t approve of the mission,” Netanyahu told senior Israeli defense officials, according to Kaufman, co-author of “In the War Room: The Inside Story of Israel’s Fight Against Hamas and the Iranian Axis,” who recounted the exchange in an interview with Fox News Digital.

    Then-Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi favored informing Washington, believing the Americans might support a strike against a Hezbollah leader linked to the deaths of U.S. service members, according to Kaufman. Netanyahu, however, warned that then-U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan would “jump out of his skin” if he learned of the plans.

    The disagreement reflected a widening divide between Jerusalem and Washington over Israel’s military campaign against Iran’s regional proxies, as the Biden administration sought to prevent the fighting from escalating into a broader regional war.

    ‘BIBI’S HAIR ON FIRE’: TRUMP-NETANYAHU PUBLIC ‘RIFT’ MASKED UNIFIED FRONT AGAINST IRAN, ANALYST SAYS

    fireball rises from the site of an Israeli airstrike that targeted an area in Beirut’s southern suburbs overnight March 10 to 11, 2026.(Fadel itani / AFP via Getty Images)

    Hezbollah: Netanyahu’s warning about Washington

    When Israeli jets struck Hezbollah’s headquarters in Beirut on September 27, 2024, the Pentagon said it had received no advance warning. Gallant spoke with then-Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin while the operation was already underway.

    The strike killed Nasrallah, who had led the Iranian-backed terrorist organization for more than three decades, marking a major turning point in Israel’s campaign against Hezbollah, which opened a second front against Israel on October 8, 2023, a day after Hamas’ deadly attack in southern Israel, and had since launched repeated rocket and missile attacks on northern Israeli communities.

    Kaufman argued that Israel had spent nearly a year waiting for American diplomacy to end Hezbollah’s attacks on its northern communities, without success.

    “From Israel’s point of view, it had been sitting and waiting for 10, 11 months while Hezbollah had been pounding the north of Israel with rockets and with anti-tank missiles, waiting for American diplomacy to succeed,” he said. “It didn’t work. Something had to change on the northern front.”

    Kaufman said the confrontation exposed a fundamental difference in how the two governments approached the war.

    “The United States may not have been in Israel’s war room, but it could never be denied a seat at the table when it asked,” he said.

    “What I was told from the Israeli prime minister’s office is ‘America’s goal is to de-escalate the war. Our goal is to win the war,’ and we saw that clash at every point, especially during the Biden administration.”

    VP JD VANCE ADDRESSES US-ISRAEL RELATIONSHIP, WHETHER IRAN IS TRYING TO ‘PLAY’ THE UNITED STATES

    Hamas fighters secure an area before handing over an Israeli-American hostage Keith Siegel to a Red Cross team in Gaza City on Feb. 1, 2025, as part of the fourth hostage-prisoner exchange. Ranks of Hamas fighters formed up on Gaza’s beachfront in a show of force against the dramatic backdrop of breaking waves.(SAEED JARAS/Middle East Images/AFP via Getty Images)

    October 7: Netanyahu’s reluctance and the question of accountability

    The book, written by Kaufman and Jerusalem Post senior military analyst Yonah Jeremy Bob, also describes how Netanyahu initially resisted launching a full-scale ground invasion of Gaza following the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas massacre, only to emerge later as one of the strongest advocates for continuing the war.

    “Prime Minister Netanyahu had just seen the IDF, Israel’s military, fail miserably on Oct. 7, and Israel’s intelligence services fail miserably on October 7,” Kaufman told Fox News Digital.

    Senior American generals dispatched by President Biden also warned Israeli leaders that a ground invasion could end in military defeat, even in Gaza City, according to Kaufman.

    Netanyahu eventually approved the ground operation on Oct. 27, 2023, after weeks of internal debate.

    “Over time, he would gain confidence in the IDF, regain confidence in the military, in Israel’s intelligence services, and end up outlasting, exhausting, or simply firing all of his war room rivals,” Kaufman said.

    Kaufman was more critical when asked about Netanyahu’s accountability for Oct. 7.

    “I have spoken to Prime Minister Netanyahu several times in person, even more on the phone. I had a three hour conversation with him extending well past midnight in Israel,” Kaufman said. “I have not heard him take responsibility for what happened on October 7th.”

    Instead, Kaufman said, Netanyahu consistently points to the failure of senior military officials to alert him before the Hamas assault began. “What he says is, 6:29. They didn’t wake me up until 6:29 in the morning on the day of October 7th,” Kaufman recounted.

    Those remarks came as a new controversy erupted in Israel over the official record of Netanyahu’s actions on the morning of the attack.

    In a lengthy interview broadcast Thursday by Israel’s Channel 12, retired Maj. Gen. Avi Gil, who served as Netanyahu’s military secretary at the time, said that the prime minister’s chief of staff, Tzachi Braverman, attempted to alter the official record of a telephone call between Gil and Netanyahu.

    EXPERTS URGE EXTREME CAUTION ON IRAN’S ‘CROWN JEWEL’ HEZBOLLAH — TERROR GROUP WITH US BLOOD ON ITS HANDS

    Israel’s President Isaac Herzog, Israel’s Defence Minister Yoav Galant and IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi attend a memorial ceremony marking a decade for Israeli fallen soldiers of the 2014 Gaza War also known as Operation Protective Edge, in the Hall of Remembrance at the Mount Herzl Military Cemetery in Jerusalem, 16 July 2024.(Abir Sultan/Reuters)

    Gil said a stenographer told him she had been instructed to change the recorded time of their first secure telephone conversation from 6:40 a.m. to 6:29 a.m. Gil said he had raised concerns about irregular recordkeeping with the attorney general’s office in real time. Braverman has acknowledged seeking to change the recorded time but denied wrongdoing.

    Gil also challenged the completeness of Netanyahu’s public account of the events preceding the massacre, saying there were significant gaps between what occurred and what had been presented to the Israeli public and in his written statements.

    The Likud party dismissed the alleged attempt to falsify the record, saying “the matter had been investigated by police two years earlier and that police had recommended closing the case because it lacked substance.” However, prosecutors have not announced a decision to close the case.

    Gil also said that opportunities to secure hostage agreements earlier in the war had been lost because of political considerations.

    Asked by Channel 12 whether some hostages who died in captivity could have been brought home alive, Gil replied, “We could have.”

    He indicated that opposition to ceasefires and hostage deals from far-right ministers in Netanyahu’s coalition influenced the prime minister’s decisions.

    While acknowledging that senior Israeli military officials believed Netanyahu was prolonging the war for political reasons, Kaufman challenged the argument that political survival was his sole motivation, pointing to Israel’s subsequent campaigns against Hezbollah and Iran. “There were real strategic interests to be pursued,” he said.

    “Almost all of the real achievements of this war came later in the war,” he said, arguing that the subsequent weakening of Hezbollah, the collapse of the Assad regime in Syria and the attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities complicated claims that continued fighting served only Netanyahu’s political interests.

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    President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced joint military action targeting Iran.(REUTERS/Kevin Mohatt)

    Iran: How Israel helped convince Trump to strike

    The book also examines how Israel’s early military successes against Iran helped persuade President Donald Trump to authorize U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities during the 12-day war in June 2025.

    Kaufman described how a Trump administration official showed him a map of Israeli airstrikes that had opened a route toward Fordow, Iran’s heavily fortified underground nuclear facility.

    According to Kaufman, Israeli military chief Eyal Zamir subsequently made the case directly to Vice President JD Vance that American forces had an extraordinary opportunity to strike.

    “You have a straight shot to Iran’s nuclear sites. You will never have a better opportunity than this,” Kaufman said, recounting Zamir’s message to Vance.

    Kaufman said the Israeli military chief told Vance that Israeli aircraft were already operating over the area, but that the U.S. possessed the heavy bunker-busting bombs necessary for the Fordow mission.

    He credited the vice president with helping secure Trump’s final authorization for Operation Midnight Hammer.

    “Vice President Vance played a critical role in ultimately securing American participation in the highly successful 12-day war,” Kaufman said.

    The account challenges the notion that Trump was reluctantly drawn into the conflict by Netanyahu, Kaufman argued, portraying the president instead as responding to an opportunity created by Israel’s demonstrated military capabilities.

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    The Commander of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM), Admiral Brad Cooper, recently visited Israel as the official guest of the Chief of the General Staff, LTG Eyal Zamir. The Commander of CENTCOM and the Chief of the General Staff first held an extended one-on-one meeting. This was followed by a meeting attended by additional commanders. The IDF says the meeting serves as another expression of the relationship between the commanders and constitutes an additional step in enhancing the close strategic relationship between the IDF and U.S. military and in strengthening defense cooperation between the two nations.(IDF Spokesman’s Unit.)

    Jake Sullivan’s response was not received by the deadline.

    Efrat (Effie) Lachter is a reporter for Fox News Digital with more than 15 years of experience covering conflict, global affairs, human rights and political accountability.She has directed and produced more than 200 documentary segments across more than 40 countries, documenting conflicts, humanitarian crises, corruption, human trafficking, gender-based violence and the human stories behind major world events.

    Lachter’s reporting has taken her into conflict zones and crisis areas across the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa. Her work has included uncovering human trafficking networks, revealing an ISIS underground torture prison in Syria, documenting the war in Ukraine and interviewing senior political figures and world leaders. She was also among the Western journalists who entered Russia after the war began to bring testimonies from Putin’s opposition. Lachter is the recipient of the 2022 Peres Center for Peace Award and was a 2023–2024 Knight-Wallace Journalism Fellow at the University of Michigan. She also won two Rockower Awards for Excellence in Reporting. She holds a bachelor’s degree in communication and a master’s degree in political science.

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