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以下是美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心管理员穆罕默德·奥兹医生的采访实录，该采访于2026年8月23日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目中播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 现在我们邀请到了美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心管理员穆罕默德·奥兹医生。欢迎再次来到《直面国家》。
穆罕默德·奥兹医生： 感谢邀请我来。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 目前有一个不争的事实，医疗成本预计将在2027年上升，这是民众最关心的问题。从我们的民调来看，普通美国人在经济方面的担忧主要就源于此。不过也有好消息，我知道您关注到了这一点：根据7月份的消费者价格指数，药品价格同比下降了3.1%。当然这并非所有药品都降价，仿制药在其中发挥了作用。我知道本届政府想要为此邀功，但您能否为我们做一些展望？我们是否会看到药品价格进一步下降？如果会，会在哪些领域、下降多少、哪些人群将获益？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我认为药品价格会持续下降。这正是我们所期望的。需要明确的是，这是美国人最担心的医疗成本问题，因为这笔费用要从他们自己的口袋里掏出来。我们来把这件事放在具体情境中看：如果你现在待在家里，因为医生开了药而去药店，尤其是那些有望改善你生活质量的品牌药，大概每三次里就有一次，你会空手而归，因为你买不起这种药。现在，当你看到药品价格在过去一年里下降的速度——这是63年来最快的降幅，而且还在加速，这也是我相信价格会继续下跌的原因——这种情况正在改变现状。现在的问题是为什么会这样？这是怎么发生的？其中一个现实是，我们会从药店空手而归，是因为我们的药品价格比其他国家贵得多。总统早就意识到了这一点，并且为此困扰多年。真正的问题是，我们为什么没有早点解决这个问题？
所以在本届政府刚上台时，总统就给了我们非常明确的指令，因为这类政策需要时间来推进。他说：“我不希望你们损害制药行业的生产力、创造力和创新能力，但他们不能对完全相同的产品收取比欧洲或亚洲高三倍的费用，哪怕这些产品往往是在美国工厂生产的。”于是我们着手解决这个问题。“最惠国药品定价”政策就是这项工作的成果。我们不是在告诉公司他们可以收取多少费用，而是说，无论你在海外收取多少钱，你在这里也必须收取同样的价格。再也不能有这种全球“搭便车”的行为了。值得庆幸的是，代表了85%制药行业的17家公司都同意了这项政策。好消息是，他们在华尔街的市值实际上反而上升了，因为市场需要稳定性。我们想要的是为美国民众提供更实惠的价格，我们做到了。
而且需要说明的是，我们目前看到的日益增长的储蓄，以及我们即将获得的额外储蓄，主要不仅得益于最惠国定价的药品，还得益于特朗普医保网站（TrumpRx.gov）提供的药品可及性，这一影响是极其巨大的。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好吧，你知道，更多的民众想要了解更多信息，但这些协议并没有被公开。议员们对此存在一些疑问。我看到有报道称，17家制药商同意了这些最惠国定价，但医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心的受益人目前还无法完全使用这些项目。他们什么时候才能用上？价格能便宜多少？具体是哪些药品？
奥兹医生： 嗯，医疗保险受益人正在快速获得这些项目的使用权。顺便说一句，我们想要将这项政策正式写入法律——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但他们目前还无法使用这个项目——
奥兹医生： 不，他们可以。他们确实可以。比如说GLP-1类药物，也就是总统所说的“减肥针”，现在符合条件的医疗保险受益人每月只需支付50美元就能买到。玛格丽特，在本届政府上台前，这类药物每月的费用超过1000美元。这正是推动节省大量开支的原因。顺便说一句，这是所有药品中用量最大的类别。你猜现在美国GLP-1类药物用量最高的邮政编码区域是哪里？是曼哈顿上东区。富人们为了周末去汉普顿时看起来更光鲜，会使用这些药物。但真正需要它们的人，也就是超重的老年人们，现在终于第一次买得起这些药了。每月50美元意味着你可以采取措施帮助自己减重、降低血压、改善糖尿病，那些原本会产生的后续医疗成本也将不复存在。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 所以你是说，他们已经可以完全使用这些药物了？而且不只是GLP-1类药物？
奥兹医生： 医疗保险受益人已经可以完全使用部分药物，比如 fertility drugs（ Fertility medications， Fertility drugs 这里指生育类药物，译者注：生育药物）。不过这类药物的需求并没有那么大，尽管生育药物的价格已经下降了90%。我们已经按照合理的方式推出了这些药物，而且我之所以持乐观态度，原因就在于此：未来美国所有大型公司推出的新药都将采用最惠国药品定价。所以我们的情况会越来越好。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 所以你本周早些时候在接受我的同事梅杰·加勒特的哥伦比亚广播公司采访时承认，拜登政府2022年通过的允许医疗保险机构与制药商议价的法律对你开展这项工作很有帮助，相当于为我们打开了大门。我记得当时很多人担心并批评这项法律，说它会损害创新、损害市场。你现在是如何看待这项法律的，又是如何确保它不会带来那些负面影响的？
奥兹医生： 《通胀削减法案》——也就是推动这项工作的法律——的风险在于，它可能会迫使企业做他们不愿意做的事情，以至于他们会停止创新。现在避免这种情况的方法就是与这些公司进行公平谈判。该法案实施的第一年，在节省开支方面效果并不显著。过去这一年，我们在定价方面采取了积极行动，但同样是以公平的方式进行，因此我们得以让美国民众的节省金额翻倍。我想指出的是，药品价格和可负担性是两党都受益的议题。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 共和党人和民主党人都需要使用药物。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 我们想要动用工具箱里的所有工具来实现这一目标。毫无疑问，特朗普医保网站的最惠国药品定价政策是主要推动力，其效果远超其他任何现有举措。但我们也会使用所有可用的工具，包括这些议价机制。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们一直在谈论联邦债务，目前已经达到40万亿美元。医疗保险受托人预测，该基金将在7年内耗尽，届时支付金额将削减11%。这是根据负责任联邦预算委员会的数据得出的结论。我知道你们一直在努力减少浪费、欺诈和滥用行为，但即便做好了这些内务工作，你们仍然面临着严峻的财政问题。有共和党议员希望白宫采取更多行动，他们对此提出了要求——你们的计划是什么？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我们的计划是《伟大美国医疗法案》，其中将包括将最惠国药品定价政策正式纳入法律，这将有所帮助。浪费、欺诈和滥用的问题确实很重要。我就用你刚才提到的医疗保险信托基金资不抵债的情况来举例说明：按照目前的情况，资不抵债将在6到7年内发生，但如果我们能清除医疗保险中的欺诈行为，这个时间可以延长一倍。想想看——仅仅清除欺诈行为，就能让福利发放年限增加一倍。其他都不用做，光是这一点就足够了。就在过去一年里，我们通过从源头上杜绝资金外流，从医疗保险中砍掉了420亿美元的欺诈资金，而且我们在耐用医疗设备欺诈方面通过全国性禁令取得了显著的改善。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 420亿美元。联邦政府在医疗保险上的支出是1.2万亿美元。
奥兹医生： 这还只是开始。那是去年的数据，我们还没有完全达到全速运转的状态。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： 但我想指出一个现实，这一点很重要：欺诈不仅会偷走资金，还会偷走我们的信任。有些州没有与我们密切合作解决这些问题，原因在于，在某些情况下，我们眼中的欺诈行为，对这些州来说实际上是一种“特色服务”。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但你也承认，虽然这项重要工作必不可少，但不足以解决这个巨大的财政问题——
奥兹医生： 更大的好处在于——
玛格丽特·布伦南： ——所以需要采取更多行动。除了中期选举之后，也就是明年1月之后，有没有相关的实施计划？
奥兹医生： 我可以告诉你我们已经在推进的计划。毫无疑问，另一个更大的节省开支的机会是利用技术，包括人工智能。如今50%的医生使用人工智能来减轻官僚负担、处理文书工作。50%的医生使用人工智能来获取更好的诊疗建议，以便为患者提供服务。我们机构内由艾米·格利森领导的医疗技术生态系统已经在招募合作方方面取得了巨大成效——你听说过的每家公司都加入了我们。目前已有800家公司承诺参与其中。我给你一个具体的数字。去年我坐在这里和你对话的时候——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
奥兹医生： ——只有5%的美国人能够访问自己的医疗记录，以便在任何地方使用这些记录，包括将其纳入人工智能前沿模型。如今这一比例已经超过了50%。我们正在彻底改变信息在系统中的流通方式，这是一件大事，因为过去人们会设置壁垒、封锁数据，因为这样他们能从中获利。我们不会允许这种情况发生。我们正在强化相关规则，而总统推动了这些变革——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的。
奥兹医生： ——通过行政命令要求提供医疗服务的机构同时向患者提供医疗记录，因为你知道谁才是医疗记录的所有者吗？
玛格丽特·布伦南： 是的
奥兹医生： 你，患者，因为是你为这些记录买单的。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错，但我刚才说的是政府开支。不过我们换个话题，谈谈如何让人们保持健康。美国疾病控制与预防中心上周发布的新数据显示，上一学年全国92%的幼儿园儿童接种了麻疹疫苗，但这低于95%的群体免疫阈值。本届政府已经开始大力鼓励民众接种MMR疫苗，不过特朗普总统也发表过相关言论。我们来听一下。
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唐纳德·特朗普： 分三次接种的疫苗，如果在同一时间接种，可能会存在相当大的致命风险。而分开接种的话，看起来完全不会致命，而且非常有效。所以对于MMR疫苗，我们希望分开接种，分不同的就诊时间和接种时间。
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玛格丽特·布伦南： 总统两次表示这类疫苗可能致命。你是否想要澄清这一点？
奥兹医生： 我们希望患者能够接受医生推荐的治疗方案，但我们也希望家长能够自主决定为孩子接种哪些疫苗。我在美国医疗保险和医疗补助服务中心的职责——
玛格丽特·布伦南： specifically about the MMR vaccine？（特指MMR疫苗？译者注：此处原文为英文，保留以符合访谈语境）
奥兹医生： 关于MMR疫苗，还有所有疫苗。我的职责是——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但他明确提到了MMR疫苗，用了“致命”这个词。这就是我请你澄清的地方。
奥兹医生： MMR疫苗并非致命疫苗，而且在其他国家也有接种。麻疹疫苗本身，比如说在日本，就有单独接种的情况。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 而日本在分开接种后确实出现了一些问题。还增加了成本。那么针对你负责的低收入儿童疫苗项目，这会带来什么影响？
奥兹医生： 嗯，我们会承担所有疫苗的费用——
玛格丽特·布伦南： ——那么具体会怎么做？
奥兹医生： 无论如何，我们都会承担疫苗费用。问题——再次回到一个更根本的议题上，玛格丽特。家长有没有权利提出疑问？我们在新冠疫情期间已经见识过了，当时我们剥夺了家长的这项权利。他们被迫给自己的孩子接种新冠疫苗。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 并没有联邦强制要求给孩子接种新冠疫苗。
奥兹医生： 嗯，他们被强烈推动接种，而且经常会因为孩子没有接种这些疫苗而无法参与社交活动。作为一个国家，我们应该——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 根本就没有联邦强制令。
奥兹医生： 不，当然这不是联邦政府说了算。这由各州决定。各州负责制定相关政策。总统的要求是，确保各州为家长提供选择的余地，无论是出于宗教信仰还是其他原因，让家长可以选择不让孩子按常规程序接种所有疫苗。我们举一个具体的例子：乙肝疫苗。我个人就接种过乙肝疫苗，它有助于成年人避免相关问题——比如说我作为医生，如果被患者使用过的针头扎到，但通常这类疫苗是针对吸毒者和有相关暴露风险的人群的——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 或者是婴儿可能会被照顾者、家里的其他人、无意中接触到病毒的父母感染，这也是为什么建议儿童接种的原因——
奥兹医生： 这种情况极其罕见，而且很难仅仅基于这种可能性就设计出一个完整的疫苗接种项目。现实情况是，如果一位家长希望将孩子出生时就该接种的疫苗推迟几年，因为他们认为孩子不会处于那些高风险类别中，为什么不给家长这个选择呢？再说一遍，无论如何，我们都会承担费用。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好吧，我们会和一位州长候选人聊聊他是否会在他的州改变这项政策，因为这是各州的权限，但我们今天的访谈就到这里。我们马上回来。请继续收看。
Transcript: Dr. Mehmet Oz on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Aug. 23, 2026
2026-08-23T12:20:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of an interview with Dr. Mehmet Oz, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services administrator, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 23, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we are joined now by the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Dr. Mehmet Oz. Welcome back to Face the Nation.
DR. MEHMET OZ: Thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It is unquestionable here that healthcare costs are projected to rise in 2027, and this is a top concern. We see it in our polling in terms of economic worry for the average American. There’s some good news, and I know you’re watching this portion of it. There’s this 3.1% drop year-over-year in drug prices, according to the Consumer Price Index for the month of July. Now that’s not all drugs and generics played a role here. I know the administration wants to take credit for it, but can you give us some projection here? Are we going to see a further drop in drug prices, and if so, where, how much, who’s going to benefit?
DR. OZ: Well, I think drug prices are going to continue to drop. This is just what the doctor ordered. To be clear, this is the number one issue that Americans fear about healthcare costs because it comes out of their pocket. So let’s put this in context. If you’re sitting at home right now and you go to a drugstore because a doctor prescribed a medication, especially a branded product that might change your life for the better, hopefully. One in three times, roughly, you will leave empty-handed because you can’t afford the medication. Now, when you see drug prices drop as fast as they have over the past year- the fastest drop we’ve had in 63 years and it’s accelerating, which is why I’m confident that it’s going to continue. You change that dynamic. Now, the question is why? How did that happen? And one of the realities is that we leave empty-handed from the drugstore because our drugs cost much more than they cost in other countries. And the president recognizes, and it really bothered him, and it has for years. The real question is why didn’t we deal with it earlier? So the president gave us a very clear mandate at the very beginning of the administration because these processes take time. He said, “I don’t want you to hurt productivity, creativity, innovation in the pharmaceutical sector, but they are not allowed to charge three times more for the exact same products made often in U.S. facilities than they pay in Europe or Asia.” So we went after this issue. Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing is the result. We’re not telling companies what they can charge. We’re saying, whatever you charge overseas, you got to charge here. No more of this global freeloading. And thankfully, the 17 companies representing 85% of the drug sector all came on board. And here’s the good news, their market capitalization on Wall Street actually went up because they- the market wants stability. What we want is better prices for the American people, and we got it. And just to put it in context, this increasing savings that we’re seeing, the additional amount of savings we’re getting, primarily driven not just by having the medications at Most-Favored-Nation pricing, but available to the American people and TrumpRx.gov, is seismic in its nature.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, you know, more people want more information, and these deals aren’t being published. There’s some questions from lawmakers about it. I’ve seen reporting that 17 drug makers agreed to these Most-Favored-Nation prices, but that Medicare and Medicaid recipients don’t yet get full access to the programs. When will they? How much cheaper will it be? What kind of drugs?
DR. OZ: Well, Medicare beneficiaries are rapidly getting access to these deals. By the way, we want to codify–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But they don’t have access to this program–
DR. OZ: No, they do. They do. For example, the GLP-1 medications, the so-called “fat shot,” as the president calls them, they’re now available to eligible Medicare beneficiaries for $50 a month. Margaret, these drugs were over $1,000 a month before we came in this administration. So that’s driving a lot of the savings. That’s the number one category, by the way, of all drugs. And guess where the number one zip code is for GLP-1s today in America? It’s the Upper East Side of Manhattan. The rich people get access to these drugs because they want to look better when they go out to the Hamptons for the weekend. But the people who need them, the seniors who are overweight, can now, for the first time, afford these drugs. $50 a month means you can do something to help yourself lose weight, reduce blood pressure, reduce diabetes, and all the downstream costs that would have been incurred no longer happen.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, they have full access, is what you’re saying. It’s not just the GLP-1s.
DR. OZ: Medicare beneficiaries have full access to some of the drugs, like the fertility drugs. They don’t need those quite as much, even though fertility drugs are down 90%. So we have delivered these medications as they make sense, and going forward- this is the reason I’m optimistic- all new drugs released in America from these large companies will be at Most-Favored-Nation drug pricing. So we will get better and better and better.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you acknowledged earlier this week in an interview with my colleague Major Garrett on CBS that that Biden-era 2022 law that allowed Medicare to haggle with drug makers was helpful to you in this. That that was kind of part of opening the door. I remember at that time there was a lot of concern and criticism about that law- that it would hurt innovation, that it would hurt the pub- the marketplace. How is it that you are now embracing it and making sure that it’s not doing that?
DR. OZ: The risks of the IRA, which is the- the law that drove this, is that it’ll coerce companies to do things they don’t want to do, so they’ll just stop innovating. Now, the way you avoid that is by negotiating fairly with these companies. The first year of the program it wasn’t actually that effective in saving money. This past year, we got aggressive in the pricing, but again, doing it in a fair way, so we’re able to double the savings for the American people. I want to point out that drug prices and affordability are bipartisan beneficial issues.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
DR. OZ: There are Republicans and Democrats use medications.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
DR. OZ: We want to use every tool we have in our toolkit to get there. There’s no question that the TrumpRX.gov Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing is the major driver. It dwarfs any other opportunity out there. But every tool I have, including these negotiations, we will use.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ve been talking about the national debt, $40 trillion. Medicare Trustees project- projects that it’ll be insolvent in seven years, and that at that point payments would be cut 11%. That’s according to the Committee for a Responsible Budget. I know you’re trying to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse, but even with that housekeeping, you got a significant problem here. There are Republican lawmakers who want the White House to do more, who are asking for it- what’s the plan?
DR. OZ: Well, the plan is the Great American Health Act, and that is going to include codifying the Most-Favored-Nation Drug Pricing, which helps. The fraud, waste, and abuse issue is- is important. I’ll just put it in the context of what you just gave me: the insolvency of the Medicare trust fund, which is going to happen in six to seven years, it’ll last twice as long. Think about that- twice as many years of benefits if we just take the fraud out of Medicare. Forget about everything else. Just this past year, we cut $42 billion of fraud from Medicare by never leaving the money out of the door, and that is- those are kinds of benefits we’re seeing a dramatic changes in durable medical equipment fraud by a nationwide moratorium.
MARGARET BRENNAN: 42 billion. The federal government paid 1.2 trillion on Medicare.
DR. OZ: That’s just the beginning. That was last year. We hadn’t even gotten to full speed.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: But let me just point one reality out. This is important. The fraud doesn’t just steal money; it steals our trust. And we have states that are not working closely with us on these issues, and that’s because in some cases, what’s fraud to us objectively is actually a feature for the states.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you’re acknowledging that while important work is not sufficient to that massive financial problem–
DR. OZ: The even bigger benefit–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –that more needs to be done. Is there a plan to do so past the midterms in- after January?
DR. OZ: I’ll give you the plan we’re already acting on. Without question, what’s even bigger as an opportunity to save us money is the use of technology, including artificial intelligence. 50% of doctors today use artificial intelligence to reduce bureaucratic load, take care of the paperwork. 50% of doctors use it to get better advice that they give to their patients. We have a health tech ecosystem run by Amy Gleason within our agency, that has been massively effective in recruiting- every company you have ever heard of has joined us. 800 companies in a pledge to participate. I’ll give you one hard number. Last year, when I would sit here with you–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –5% of Americans had access to their medical records so they could use them wherever they wanted, including putting them in- in an AI frontier model. Today it’s over 50%. We’re dramatically changing how information flows to the system, and this is a big deal because historically people put–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –gates down, they block data because they were making money. We’re not allowing that. We’re enforcing the rules, and the president drove these changes–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
DR. OZ: –and executive orders that demand that people providing healthcare also provide the medical records to you because you know who owns the medical records?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah
DR. OZ: You, the patient, because you’re paying for them.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, but I’m talking about government spending. But let me ask you about something else, and that’s keeping people healthy. The CDC released new numbers last week showing 92% of the nation’s kindergartners were vaccinated for measles in the last school year, but that’s below the 95% herd immunity threshold. Now, the administration has started really encouraging people to get the MMR vaccine, but President Trump also said this. Take a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP: In three separate vaccinations, given at separate times, together there could be a possibility they’re quite lethal, And separately, it looks like they are not at all lethal, but just very effective. So the MMR, we want to have separate, separate visits, separate times.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: The president twice said the shot may be lethal. Do you want to clarify that?
DR. OZ: We want patients to get the treatments that their doctors are recommending to them, but we also want parents to have the autonomy to decide what their kids receive. My job at CMS–
MARGARET BRENNAN: On the MMR vaccine, specifically?
DR. OZ: On the MMR vaccine, but all the vaccines. My job is to–
MARGARET BRENNAN: But he said it was the MMR vaccine, he used the term “lethal.” That’s what I’m asking you to clarify.
DR. OZ: The president wants Americans, and he said this many times, to get vaccinated as their doctors recommend, as long as they have a choice in the matter, the challenge we’re running into is that many states have not clarified that, and actually, it’s harder for parents to ask these difficult questions. And Margaret, here’s the real issue–
MARGARET BRENNAN: The MMR vaccine is not offered in three separate shots. Merck, which produces it, said they couldn’t offer that for another 10 years. Currently, it is only offered as a single shot. The president called that single shot lethal. Do you want to clarify that?
DR. OZ: No, the MMR vaccine is not a lethal vaccine, and it is offered in other countries. The measles, in particular, separately, like in Japan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And they had problems with it in Japan once they started separating things out.
DR. OZ: Well, that’s–
MARGARET BRENNAN: And it’s increased costs. So for like the vaccines for kids program that you run for low-income kids–
DR. OZ: Well, we’re going to pay–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –what is it going to do to them?
DR. OZ: We’re going to pay for the vaccines no matter what. The question- again, this comes back to a much more fundamental issue, Margaret. Do parents have the right to ask questions? We already experienced what happened during COVID when we took away that right from parents. They were forced to give their kids COVID vaccines.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They were not forced to give their kids COVID vaccines.
DR. OZ: Well, they were- they were pushed hard and oftentimes hindered from doing what they wanted to do, like going out socially if their kids were not included in these programs. What we should, as a nation–
MARGARET BRENNAN: There was no federal mandate.
DR. OZ: No, of course, it’s not up to the state. It’s not up to the federal government. It’s up to the state. States do this. The request of the president is to make sure that states offer parents either eligibility because of religious beliefs or other reasons why they may not want to have their kids take all the vaccines in order. Let’s pick a specific example: hepatitis B. Hepatitis B is a vaccine. I happen to like. I got the hepatitis B vaccine, but it helps adults avoiding issues if they’re involved- for example, my case as a doctor, if I just hit myself with a needle with a patient, but usually it’s for drug abusers and for people who are involved in–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Or infants who could be exposed by a caregiver, by someone in their house, by a parent unwittingly, which is why it provided children–
DR. OZ: Extraordinarily- extraordinarily rare, and it’s hard to design an entire program around just that possibility. The reality is, if a parent wants to delay this vaccine from the hour the child is born–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
DR. OZ: –for a few years because they don’t think they’re going to be in those high-risk categories, why not give the parent that choice? Again, we’re going to pay for it no matter what.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, and we’ll talk to a gubernatorial candidate about whether he’s going to change that in his state, since it’s up to states, but we’ll have to leave that here. We’ll be right back. Stay with us.
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