transcript:爱荷华州共和党州长候选人扎克·莱恩做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目,2026年10月4日
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以下是2026年10月4日播出的《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目中,爱荷华州共和党州长候选人扎克·莱恩的采访实录。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 欢迎回到《面对面》节目。接下来我们将采访爱荷华州共和党州长候选人扎克·莱恩。他将从贝尔普莱恩参与我们的节目。早上好。
爱荷华州共和党州长候选人扎克·莱恩: 早上好,玛格丽特。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 我们来看看柴油价格,已经突破6美元大关了。特朗普总统与加拿大和中国的贸易战让美国农民的日子变得拮据,你在爱荷华州对此深有体会。总统的相关政策是否对你所在的政党造成了不利影响?
扎克·莱恩: 我认为,当我们谈论农民的负担能力问题时——顺便说一句,这也是我们竞选初期就提出的议题——我们必须退后一步,真正了解农业行业数十年来的状况。我们见证了企业一波又一波的合并,这夺走了农民的选择权和竞争空间,农业市场已经达到了垄断阶段。如今柴油价格上涨只是诸多叠加问题中的又一个。我们在州层面一直在着力研究如何削减汽油税以及推出其他优先政策,帮助农民在收获季使用价格更实惠的燃料。这从竞选伊始就是我们的核心议题之一,我深知农民长期以来一直只能被动接受价格,局势对他们一直不利。如今再加上柴油成本上涨,问题确实变得严峻起来。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 你刚才提到了大型农业集团。你在竞选活动中承诺要打破大型农业集团的垄断,还表示要对拥有农田的华尔街对冲基金征收重税。这些政策听起来更像是典型的进步派主张,而非保守派政策。你要如何说服爱荷华州的共和党选民?
扎克·莱恩: 我想说的是,打破垄断最初正是共和党推行的政策。《谢尔曼反托拉斯法》就是共和党推动出台的,泰迪·罗斯福曾牵头拆分了当时两家规模最大的企业。垄断是自由市场失灵的表现,我们很大程度上已经忘记了这一点,如今也正在为此付出代价。我的首要任务是为总检察长办公室增加经费,以应对这些反竞争诉讼。全国的农民都在等待有人迈出第一步,真正为他们争取公平的待遇。因此我认为,这些主张其实正是共和党理念的体现,但说到底,它们只是正确的理念、正确的举措。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 不过考虑到共和党长期以来与农业行业关系密切,你的立场确实有些特别。我知道你在竞选活动中重点关注了爱荷华州的癌症发病率问题——该州的癌症发病率在美国排名第二。你称硝酸盐和农药(包括草甘膦)是致癌诱因。特朗普总统曾签署行政令,推动草甘膦基除草剂的生产。你要如何调和总统的这项决定与你的政策主张?
扎克·莱恩: 首先我要说明,我是最早公开表示签署这项行政令是错误之举的人之一。如果我们能向总统提供更多相关信息,他应该会理解这一点。我们的竞选活动始终聚焦爱荷华州的本土问题,这些问题正是爱荷华州民众正在亲身经历的。我们的新增癌症增速是全美最快的,排名第一。如果你从爱荷华州搬到内华达州这样的州,每年患癌的概率会降低40%。这些都是爱荷华州特有的问题,我们也一直在聚焦解决这些问题。水中的高硝酸盐含量是结肠癌、膀胱癌和卵巢癌的首要诱因之一,而爱荷华州的硝酸盐含量位居全美前列,甚至可能是最高的。因此,我们计划为农民提供切实的激励措施,鼓励他们采用不同的耕作方式,从源头上阻止这些污染物进入溪流,净化我们的水源。同时,我们要确保农民在推行这些举措时不会蒙受损失,通过提供实实在在的激励,让他们通过采用这些新方法反而能够盈利。因为目前农民的利润空间本就微薄,当你可能是五代经营家族农场的第一人时,尝试新事物显然并不具备吸引力。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 没错,支持继续使用这种被认为与癌症有关的除草剂的一个论点就是,坦率地说,它价格低廉。你的立场——你刚才说如果总统掌握更多信息,可能会做出不同的决定。顺便说明一下,卫生与公众服务部部长小罗伯特·肯尼迪曾表示反对这项行政令,他也曾告知总统自己的反对态度,但总统还是以国家安全为由签署了该命令。不过这位卫生与公众服务部部长一直在为你助选,你的许多竞选主张都深受MAHA运动的欢迎。我们是否可以将你的竞选视为肯尼迪人气的一次测试?
扎克·莱恩: 我认为肯尼迪非常受欢迎,爱荷华州在全美也拥有很高的认可度。但更重要的是他所代表的理念,与我所主张的理念不谋而合。听着,我们都希望孩子们健康成长,都希望拥有干净的水源,都希望孩子们能少用药物。我们希望解决那些导致慢性病和自身免疫性疾病上升的问题,这些问题不仅影响儿童,也影响成年人。我们相信食物就是良药,我们首先需要关注的就是我们摄入的食物是什么。这也是我将爱荷华州的“登月计划”列为首要任务的原因之一:我希望有一天,爱荷华州公立学校供应的食物中有80%都是本州种植的。我们完全可以做到这一点,虽然需要时间,但这或许是我们真正能够清洁食品供应、为孩子们提供健康食物的第一步。爱荷华州拥有世界上最好的农田和最优秀的农民,我们可以做到这一点,并在全国起到示范带头作用。
玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,我们将持续关注你的竞选进程,看看爱荷华州是否如你所说,在这里成为一个“异类”,并开启新的趋势。感谢扎克·莱恩今天做客我们的节目。我们稍后回来。
Transcript: Zach Lahn, Iowa GOP nominee for governor, on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Oct. 4, 2026
2026-10-04T12:41:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Zach Lahn, Iowa GOP nominee for governor, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Oct. 4, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to Face the Nation. We turn now to the Republican running for governor of Iowa, Zach Lahn. He joins us from Belle Plaine. Good morning.
IOWA REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE ZACH LAHN: Good morning, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We look at diesel prices. They’re north of six bucks. President Trump’s trade war with Canada and China have made things expensive for farmers. You know that well in Iowa. Are the president’s policies a headwind for your party?
ZACH LAHN: I think when you talk about what’s going on with affordability for farmers, and by the way, this is something we launched our campaign on in the beginning. You have to take a step back and really understand what’s been going on for decades in the agriculture industry, where we’ve seen consolidation after consolidation of businesses taking choice and competition away from farmers, we’ve reached monopoly stages there. And now what we’re seeing with some of the increased prices on diesel is kind of just another one of these pieces that’s adding up to that. And we’ve been focused, you know, in the state on how do we cut the gas tax and other priorities to help farmers have more affordable fuel when they go into harvest. So this has been a part of our campaign since the very beginning, and I really think farmers understand that for a long time they have been treated as price takers, and really the deck has been stacked against them. And now when you add in the higher cost of diesel, we really have a problem.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well – you just mentioned there big AG. You are campaigning with a promise to break up big AG monopolies. You said you’re going to tax the heck out of Wall Street hedge funds that own farmland. Those sound more typically like progressive policies than conservative ones. How do you convince Iowa Republicans?
ZACH LAHN: Well, I just say that, you know, breaking up monopolies was first done by Republicans. The Sherman Antitrust Law is a Republican. Teddy Roosevelt broke up two of the biggest companies in existence. A monopoly is a failure of the free market. I think we forgot that in large part, and now we’re paying the consequence for it. So my priority is to increase the funding to the Attorney General’s office to take on these anti-competitive lawsuits because farmers across the country are waiting for someone to take the first step here and really give them a fair deal, and so I think that these are ideals of the Republican Party. But really, they’re just the right ideas, the right thing to do.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It’s – it’s an interesting position, though, given that the party has typically been very close to the agriculture industry. I know you have focused in your campaign on the cancer rate in Iowa. It has the second highest cancer incidence in this country. You say it’s nitrates and pesticides, including glyphosate, that cause it. President Trump signed an executive order to boost production of glyphosate based herbicides. How do you reconcile those presidential decisions from the policy you have?
ZACH LAHN: Well, I would just say first that I was one of the first people to come out and say that this was the wrong move to sign that executive order. I think that if we could give the president the advice on that, that he would understand that better. But what we have focused on a campaign that’s focused on Iowa issues specifically, and this is something that Iowans are facing. We have the fastest rate of new cancer anywhere in the country, number one. And if you move out of the state of Iowa to say a state like Nevada, your chance of getting cancer any given year goes down by 40 percent. These are very specific Iowa based issues, and we’ve been focused on them. High nitrate load in water is one of the top causes of colon cancer, bladder cancer, ovarian cancer, and we’ve got some of the highest levels in the country, if not the highest levels. So, we are focused on providing incentives to farmers, real incentives, to adopt different types of practices to allow them the ability to really change what they’re doing to stop these products from getting into the streams in the first place, clean up our water at the source, and help farmers make sure that they’re not losing money by doing it by providing real incentives that help them actually make money by adopting these practices. Because it really goes back to farmers are operating on razor-thin margins right now, and the idea to experiment with something new is not very appealing when you could be the first in a line of five generations that loses your family farm.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right and that’s one of the arguments – for continuing to use this herbicide that has arguably ties to – cancer. Is that it’s just frankly cheap – Your position —
ZACH LAHN: Okay —
MARGARET BRENNAN: — You just said if the president had more information, maybe make a different decision. Just for the record, RFK Jr., the HHS secretary, says he opposed it. Told the president he opposed it, and the president did it on national security grounds. But he has been out there, the HHS secretary. He’s been campaigning for you. Many of your platform issues are very popular with the MAHA movement. Should America view your race as a test of Kennedy’s popularity?
ZACH LAHN: Well, I think that Kennedy is very popular, and Iowa is very popular across the country. But it’s more so the principles that he represents, which are similar principles to what I represent. Look, we all want healthy kids. We want clean water. We want to make sure we have less medications for our kids. We want to solve these issues that have been causing a rise in, you know, chronic illness, in autoimmune conditions, not just amongst kids but amongst adults, and we believe that food is medicine. That it’s the first line that you need to be looking at is, what food are we putting into our body, and this is one of the reasons that a top priority of mine, my moonshot for the state of Iowa is to see a day in which 80 percent of the food served in our public schools is grown in the state of Iowa and we can do that. It will take time, but this might be, you know, the only nutritious meal a kid has all day and Iowa has the best farmland in the world, the best farmers in the world. We can do this and lead the country on it. And this is one of the first steps that we can take to really make sure that we’re cleaning up our food supply, we’re getting kids healthy food.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, we will continue to watch your race – and see if Iowa, as you say, is -is an outlier here and maybe starting something new. Thank you, Zach Lahn, for your time today. We’ll be right back.
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