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以下是密歇根州务卿、民主党州长候选人乔斯林·本森的采访实录，节目于2026年9月6日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对全国》播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们现在来连线密歇根州务卿乔斯林·本森，她同时也是该州民主党州长候选人。早上好。
州务卿乔斯林·本森： 早上好。感谢邀请我做客节目。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 不客气。我想先谈谈民生负担问题。密歇根大学最新的一项分析显示，该州40%的人口难以负担基本生活必需品。作为州长，你能否解决这一负担问题？
州务卿本森： 可以。首先，还是要感谢邀请我做客。民生负担是我们竞选活动的核心议题。我们的竞选最终目标是降低生活成本、发展经济，以此增加本州高薪工作岗位、捍卫民主并终结腐败。无论我在密歇根州走到哪里，都能听到居民们做出艰难抉择的令人心碎的故事。母亲们不得不在支付伙食费和 childcare 费用之间做选择；依靠固定收入的老年人则要盘算着在物价上涨的情况下如何继续负担药品费用。密歇根州下一任州长必须解决这些问题，而我作为州务卿已经做到过。我知道如何修复失灵的体制，我曾高效管理本州政府机构，我改善了本州的民主制度，还以节省民众时间、金钱、改善生活体验的方式升级了机动车辆管理部门。这些都是我作为州务卿已经完成的工作，我已经准备好以州长的身份继续践行这些承诺。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的，密歇根州面临的挑战之一是，该州36%的出口商品都向北运往加拿大。周二，加拿大针对美国产钢铁和铝制品、乳制品以及家电征收的关税将正式生效，这是此次贸易争端的一部分。涉事商品价值达200亿美元，税率在15%至50%之间。这会对密歇根州造成多大冲击？
州务卿本森： 冲击已经显现。我的意思是，自特朗普上台以来，我们的开支一直在上涨，而加拿大的这些关税给密歇根州民众带来的物价上涨幅度超过了其他任何州。密歇根州普通家庭的开支平均多出了5600美元。这相当于对我们的食品杂货征税，对我们的小企业、汽油征税。而让我在此次竞选过程中感到沮丧的是，我的对手一直全力支持这些关税。他曾多次投票支持这些关税，而非站在密歇根州民众这边。这是懦弱的表现，算不上领导力。密歇根州民众需要一位州长——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
州务卿本森： ——能够降低民众生活成本并挺身而出对抗总统，就像我作为州务卿所做的那样。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
州务卿本森： 因此我本周宣布，若我当选州长，我们将推动签订州际协议，必要时与其他州长合作，确保我们能够找到应对之道，尽管联邦政府正竭尽全力通过这些税收和关税推高民众成本——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
州务卿本森： ——我们会通过签订州际协议来降低成本、保护密歇根州民众的利益。这正是我们需要下一任州长能够做到的事情，也是我作为州务卿已经做到、并将以州长身份继续践行的事。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的，你的共和党对手上周也曾做客本节目。他表示不希望看到更多贸易争端，并将与白宫进行沟通。你刚刚提到了州际协议，但从实际操作层面来讲，你作为州长，如何能在州一级抵消联邦政府贸易争端带来的成本上涨？
州务卿本森： 首先，需要明确的是，我的对手说得好听，但归根结底，他要么对此保持沉默，要么曾投票支持这些关税。这就是为什么在密歇根州，这些关税被称为“约翰·詹姆斯税”。由于他的所作所为，由于他作为国会议员未能挺身而出对抗总统，我们民众承受了这些税收和物价上涨，他必须为此承担责任，而不是逃避。除此之外，州际协议是其他州的州长已经讨论并协商过的举措，旨在在联邦政府不愿采取行动的情况下降低民众成本。因此，作为州长，我可以与加拿大官员会面，找出具体方法，确保密歇根州与加拿大之间的贸易能够规避这些关税，降低成本。特别是在汽车工业方面，我们需要一位能够挺身而出支持我们汽车工人、支持本州这一关键产业的州长，确保我们北部的贸易伙伴能与我们携手合作——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 嗯——
州务卿本森： ——创造就业岗位并降低成本。州际协议可以帮助实现这一目标。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 请稍等一下，你指的是哪次投票？因为大多数关税都是通过行政命令实施的。
州务卿本森： 今年2月国会曾就关税问题进行投票，我的对手当时投了支持票。而且值得注意的是，在竞选活动中，人们多次询问他是否会采取行动反对这些关税，无论是作为国会议员还是州长候选人，他对此都保持沉默。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。那我们来谈谈你目前的工作。有200万密歇根州选民通过邮寄选票投票。选票将于19日寄出，而一名联邦法官上周五再次叫停了邮政部门执行特朗普总统新出台的邮寄选票规则。他此前试图通过行政命令推行这些规则。你认为这会对本州的选举产生影响吗？
州务卿本森： 首先，我们必须将此视为本届特朗普政府试图扰乱、混淆我们民主制度的最新伎俩。自2020年以来，我们已经与之抗争了将近六年。我们密歇根州将继续确保州政府主导选举运作。这意味着在密歇根州，公民享有邮寄投票的权利，我们将动用所有可用工具确保民众了解选举的真实情况。我们将遵守法律，保护投票权。坦率地说，这也是为何目前懂得如何运作选举、能够挺身而出对抗总统的州级官员如此重要。因为这不仅仅关乎2026年的选举，更是关乎2028年，届时我们需要密歇根州的州长知道如何捍卫民主、保护选民的声音和投票权。我作为州务卿已经做到了这一点——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
州务卿本森： ——而且值得注意的是，我的对手在2020年输掉上次全州选举后，并没有尊重选民的意愿。他与总统一起试图推翻、破坏那次选举。这——这让他在当下根本不适合担任州长，这也是为何此次选举中，由一位懂得如何捍卫民主、保护民众在家投票权利的州长领导密歇根州至关重要——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错。
州务卿本森： ——的原因。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 特朗普总统已经提前造势，称底特律存在选举腐败。他还表示：“不要忽视密歇根州最后时刻出现的虚假邮寄选票。”我知道在上次选举中，密歇根州查出了非公民投票的情况，有22起案件正在审查中。你的总检察长已经就其中6起案件提起了选举违法诉讼。既然总统已经将此事作为攻击点，你们将如何核实选民登记名单上的身份信息？
州务卿本森： 你知道吗，我们密歇根州在确保选民登记名单准确无误方面所做的工作比其他任何州都多，这也是为何在本州非公民投票的情况极为罕见。2024年有550万选民参与投票，是本州历史上投票率最高的一次选举，我由衷感到自豪的是，我们的选举被评为全国最安全、最便捷的选举之一。我们——你知道，我们确实查出了少数不符合投票资格的人员，并依法追究了他们的责任。这表明我们的选举制度正在正常运转。我为我们1500名地方官员每天所做的工作感到自豪，他们始终确保每次选举中，所有符合资格的选票都能被统计，且只有符合资格的选票才能被计入。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的，本森州务卿，祝你在即将到来的选举中一切顺利，我们也会持续关注你的竞选活动和相关政策主张。感谢你今天做客我们节目。我们稍后继续回来。
Transcript: Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Sept. 6, 2026
2026-09-06T12:25:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, Democratic nominee for governor, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Sept. 6, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, who is the Democratic nominee for governor in Michigan. Good morning to you.
SECRETARY OF STATE JOCELYN BENSON: Good morning. Thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure. I want to get to that issue of affordability. A new University of Michigan analysis revealed 40% of the state’s population struggles to pay for basic necessities. Is that affordability issue something you can improve on as governor?
SEC. BENSON: Yes. Well, first, thanks for having me. And affordability is the centerpiece of our campaign. Our campaign is ultimately about driving down costs, growing our economy so that we can increase well-paying jobs in our state, protecting democracy and ending corruption. And everywhere I go in Michigan, I hear heartbreaking stories about choices that residents are having to make. Moms having to choose between whether to pay for food or childcare. Seniors on a fixed income trying to decide how they’re going to still pay for medicine with these rising costs. The next governor of Michigan must address these, and I’ve done that as Secretary of State. I know how to fix broken systems. I’ve run our state agencies well. I’ve improved our democracy. I improved our Department of Motor Vehicles in a way that has saved people time, saved people money and made their lives easier. I’ve done that as Secretary of State. I’m ready to do that as Governor.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, one of the challenges in Michigan, of course, is the fact that a large portion of your state’s exports, 36%, go north to Canada. On Tuesday, Canada’s tariffs on steel and aluminum products, U.S.-made dairy and appliances will go into effect as part of this trade dispute. It’s going to be between 15 to 50% on $20 billion worth of American-made goods. How much is that going to hit Michigan?
SEC. BENSON: It already has. I mean, since Trump took office, we’ve seen our- our expenses go up, and these tariffs, particularly with Canada, have increased prices in Michigan more than any other state. The average Michigan family is paying $5,600 more. That’s a tax on our groceries. That’s a tax on our small businesses, on gas. And- and what’s frustrating to me in this race is that my opponent has been fully supportive of these tariffs. He’s voted multiple times in support of them instead of in support of the people of Michigan. That is cowardice, and that is not leadership. And Michiganders need a governor–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –who will lower their costs and stand up to the president, as I’ve done as Secretary of State.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: So I announced this week my intention as governor to ensure we’re negotiating subnational agreements, partnering with other governors if necessary, to ensure we’re developing ways to, in spite of the federal government’s best efforts to drive up costs–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –with these taxes and tariffs, negotiate subnational agreements that will drive down costs and protect the people of Michigan. That’s what we need the next governor to be able to do, and that’s what I’ve done and will do as governor.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, your Republican competitor was on this program last weekend. He said he doesn’t want more trade dispute and will talk to the White House about it. You just said subnational agreements, but practically speaking, how at the state level can you do anything to cancel out the costs coming from the federal government’s dispute?
SEC. BENSON: Well, first, it’s important to note my- my opponent could talk a good game, but the bottom line is he’s either been silent or he’s voted for these tariffs. And that means we call these tariffs in Michigan the John James tax. Because of his actions, because of his inability to stand up to the president as a congressman, we are hit with these taxes, we are hit with these increased prices, and he has to take responsibility for that instead of running away from it. But in addition to that, subnational agreements are things that governors in other states have already talked about and negotiated to drive down costs when the federal government won’t do that. So, as governor, I can meet with officials in Canada and identify specific ways we can ensure trade between–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –Michigan and Canada gets around these tariffs, reduces costs. And in particular, when it comes to our auto industry, we need a governor who’s going to stand up for our auto workers, who’s going to stand up for this critical industry in our state, and ensure that our partners to the north are working with us collectively–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well–
SEC. BENSON: –to create jobs and drive down costs. That’s what a subnational agreement can help guarantee.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Just quickly, what vote are you talking about? Because most of the tariffs have come from executive action.
SEC. BENSON: There was a vote in February in Congress in which our- my opponent voted in support of these tariffs. And also notably, he’s been consistently asked on the trail if he would stand up and do anything–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –about these, and he’s been silent on them, both as a congressman as a- and as a candidate for governor.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah. Let me ask you about your current job. Two million Michiganders vote by mail. Ballots go out on the 19th, and a federal judge again this past Friday blocked the postal service from enforcing President Trump’s new mail ballot rules. He tried to put those in through executive order. Do you see any impact on voting in your state?
SEC. BENSON: Well, first we have to see this as the latest attempt by this Trump administration to try to create chaos and confusion about our democracy. We’ve been battling this for the better part of six years now since 2020. And what we will do here in Michigan is continue to ensure that states run elections. And that means in Michigan, where citizens have a right to vote by mail, we’ll use every tool in our toolbox to ensure they know the truth about our elections. We’ll follow the law. We’ll protect the right to vote. And that’s why, frankly, state officials who know how to do that and stand up to the president are so important right now. Because this isn’t just about 2026, this is about 2028, when we will need a governor in Michigan who will know how to protect democracy and protect our voters’ voices and votes. I’ve done that–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –as Secretary of State. And notably, when my opponent lost his last statewide race in 2020, he did not stand by the will of the voters. He joined the president in trying to overturn and undermine that election. That is- that makes him unfit to be governor in this moment, and it’s why it’s all the more important that in this race, Michigan is led by a governor who knows how to protect democracy–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. BENSON: –and protect citizens’ right to vote from home.
MARGARET BRENNAN: President Trump has already sort of laid the groundwork, saying that Detroit is corrupt. He already said, “Don’t discount fake mail-in ballots that will show up at the last minute in Michigan.” I know that in the last election, Michigan ended up finding non-citizens who did vote. There were 22 cases under review. Your attorney general has charged six people with those election law violations. Given that this is something the president’s already focused on, how are you verifying the names on your voter rolls?
SEC. BENSON: You know, we’ve done more in Michigan than any other state to ensure that our rolls, our voter rolls, are accurate, and that’s why we see non-citizen voting so rare in this state. With 5.5 million people voting in 2024, the highest turnout election in our state’s history, I’m really proud that our elections have been ranked among the most secure and accessible in the nation. And we, you know, the- the fact that we have identified a handful of individuals who are ineligible to vote, we were able to hold them accountable. That shows the system is working. And I’m proud of the work that our 1,500 local officials do every day to continue to ensure that every eligible vote and only eligible votes are counted in every election.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, Secretary Benson, we wish you well with that upcoming vote, but we also will watch your candidacy and some of these platform issues. Thank you for your time today. We’ll be back in a moment.
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