2026-10-01T14:13:17.621Z / https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/01/politics/donald-trump-iran-interview
唐纳德·特朗普总统本周在一次专访中表示，他认为美国与伊朗不会达成和平。此次专访距离共和党面临关乎美国民众对其领导信心的关键考验仅一个多月。
这篇于周四刊发的《时代》周刊专访，深入探讨了总统对伊朗战争的看法、他对白宫的翻新工程、围绕肯尼迪中心的争议、对自己任命的最高法院大法官的失望，以及可能提前赦免其政府成员的计划。
如今特朗普所处的政治环境与2025年4月他上次接受《时代》周刊专访时截然不同。当时他告诉《时代》周刊，他不担心以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡将美国拖入与伊朗的潜在战争，因为如果无法与伊朗达成核协议，他会“主动”参战。
如今，美伊战争已持续约7个月，最近的一项CNN民调显示，四分之三的美国成年人认为总统在应对这一局势时缺乏明确计划，78%的人认为他在结束战争方面做得不够。
在椭圆形办公室进行的75分钟专访接近尾声时，特朗普显然对《时代》周刊记者的提问感到不满。
“你们一个积极的问题都没问过我。全都是这些，什么这个？什么那个？什么那个？什么这个？全都是负面的，”特朗普说道。
以下是周一进行的这场范围广泛的专访的部分亮点内容。
随着美伊战争持续拉锯，调解方试图推动美国和伊朗重回谈判桌，特朗普暗示该国永远不可能与美国达成和平。
“通过摧毁伊朗，我们为世界创造了和平，”特朗普说，“和伊朗，我认为永远不可能有和平。”
当被问及他反复发出的“摧毁”伊朗的威胁时，特朗普仍未关上对话的大门。
“是的，我会那么做。这是有可能的，”他说。
就在《时代》周刊专访的前一天，特朗普告诉Axios新闻网，他预计会与伊朗进行更多会谈。
特朗普谈到了他通过一系列建筑项目重塑白宫的努力，并将这座“人民之家”称为“可耻的垃圾场”和“令人作呕的烂摊子”，称自己已经将其修复。
这些工程包括为椭圆形办公室镀金，这一设计风格还延伸到了其他房间。玫瑰花园也铺上了石材，并按照他的海湖庄园露台的样式进行了重新改造；西柱廊沿线安装了带调侃意味的“总统名人步道”，用特朗普的口吻撰写了历任总统的生平简介，还铺设了新的花岗岩地砖；草坪上新增了巨型旗杆和一个直升机停机坪。
棕榈厅的地板和久负盛名的林肯卧室浴室也都更换成了大理石材质。他还在监督建造一个占地9万平方英尺的大型新增宴会厅，他表示该宴会厅将同时作为军事设施使用。
《时代》周刊记者追问特朗普，对于那些正为支付账单而苦苦挣扎的选民来说，这些工程为何重要。
他表示，白宫“是一个非常特殊的象征。它是美国的象征，是我们伟大的象征。我认为，它或许是我们拥有的最重要的象征。”
他说，刚就职时，“白宫就是个垃圾场。建筑外的装饰线条正在脱落，已经有……很久没刷过漆了，简直就是个可耻的垃圾场。门都快掉了，锁也坏了。我说过，我得把它修好。而且我比任何人都擅长做这件事。”
他声称，美国特勤局曾建议拆除并重建历史悠久的椭圆形办公室，他阻止了这一计划。CNN已就此事联系美国特勤局置评。
“这里整座建筑之前都一团糟，现在完美了，”他说。
特朗普再次表达了对自己任命的终身任职最高法院大法官的失望，称他们“太频繁”地投反对票。
“我给了他们终身职位，而他们经常投我的反对票，”特朗普在专访中告诉《时代》周刊，他指的是大法官尼尔·戈萨奇、布雷特·卡瓦诺和艾米·科尼·巴雷特。
总统提到了最高法院在出生权公民身份和关税问题上的裁决。今年早些时候，最高法院以科尼·巴雷特和戈萨奇支持的投票结果裁定，特朗普在全球范围内征收大规模关税的行为违反了联邦法律。数月后，最高法院维持了出生权公民身份的相关规定，科尼·巴雷特也加入了多数派阵营。
“民主党人团结得像胶水一样——那三个人几乎从不改变立场。哪怕你拿出世界上最糟糕的事情，他们也会集体投票，”特朗普说，“虽然我不喜欢这一点，但我对此有些钦佩：他们有忠诚度。”
当被问及是否希望他任命的最高法院大法官表现出忠诚时，特朗普回应道：“不，我不想要忠诚。我想要好的裁决。关税裁决对国家来说是灾难性的。我想要对国家有利的好裁决。”
尽管最高法院拥有保守派多数席位，且自特朗普重返白宫以来已多次为他带来重大胜利，但他仍发表了上述言论。
特朗普在专访中多次拒绝排除拆除肯尼迪中心的可能性。目前，这家艺术机构正陷入法律纠纷，员工已接到通知，将对建筑的安全性进行审查。
当被问及是否愿意拆除该中心时，特朗普说：“它的状况糟透了。我愿意拯救它，但它的状况实在太差、太差了。只有我能拯救它。”
当被再次问及是否承诺不会动用拆迁球拆除该建筑时，特朗普说：“我不会做出任何承诺。我们将看看法庭上会如何发展。”
本月早些时候，有人拍到特朗普查看一张似乎提议拆除肯尼迪中心的海报。目前这一事件仍深陷法律程序之中。
周三晚间，肯尼迪中心执行董事马特·弗洛卡向仍在岗的一小部分员工发送了一封电子邮件，指出在工作人员评估建筑状况后，大楼“将暂时关闭”。
特朗普还表示，他会考虑在任期结束前赦免其政府成员。
“是的，我当然会这么做，”特朗普说，并补充称前总统乔·拜登“给所有人都赦免了”。
在离任前，拜登发布了多项提前赦免令，包括赦免马克·米利将军、安东尼·福奇博士、1月6日国会山骚乱调查委员会成员，以及他的多名家庭成员，理由是特朗普政府可能会对他们提起诉讼。
特朗普政府时期，为获得赦免而进行的典型游说活动大幅增加。总统本人也越来越多地亲自参与政府的赦免程序，以创纪录的频率行使赦免权，以帮助盟友并推进自己的政治诉求。
在《时代》周刊的专访中，特朗普表示，如果共和党在11月的选举中失去众议院多数席位，民主党“可能会追究我的责任，而我也会追究他们的”。
本文已补充更多信息后更新。
Trump threatens to annihilate Iran again and other takeaways from his TIME interview
2026-10-01T14:13:17.621Z / https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/01/politics/donald-trump-iran-interview
President Donald Trump said this week that he doesn’t think there will be peace with Iran in a sit-down interview that comes a little over a month before Republicans face a key test on Americans’ faith in their leadership.
The interview with TIME Magazine, which was published on Thursday, delves into the president’s thoughts on the Iran war, his renovation work at the White House, the fight over the Kennedy Center, disappointment with his own Supreme Court justice picks and potential preemptive pardons of members of his administration.
Trump is in a different political landscape today than when he last down for an interview with TIME in April 2025. He told TIME back then that he wasn’t worried about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu dragging the US into a potential war with Iran, because he would go “willingly” if they couldn’t reach a nuclear deal with Iran.
Now, about seven months into a war with Iran, a recent CNN poll shows three quarters of US adults said the president lacks a clear plan for handling the situation and 78% said he’s not doing enough to end it.
Towards the end of the 75-minute interview inside the Oval Office, Trump was clearly frustrated with the TIME reporters’ questions.
“You haven’t asked me one f***ing positive question. All of this. What about this? What about that? What about that? What about this? All negative,” Trump said.
Here are some of the highlights from the wide-ranging interview that was conducted Monday.
As the war with Iran drags on and mediators try to bring the US and Iran back to the negotiating table, Trump suggested that there could never be peace with the country.
“By annihilating Iran, we’ve created peace in the world,” Trump said. “With Iran, I don’t think you could ever have peace.”
Asked about his repeated threats to “annihilate” Iran, Trump continued to leave the door open.
“Yeah, I would do that. It’s possible,” he said.
Just a day before the TIME interview, Trump told Axios that he expected more talks with the country.
Trump discussed his efforts to reshape the White House through a series of construction projects and cast the people’s house as a “disgraceful dump” and “disgusting mess” that he has fixed.
Those projects include gilding the Oval Office, a design choice that crept into other rooms. The Rose Garden has also been paved with stone and reconfigured in the image of his Mar-a-Lago patio; the tongue-in-cheek “Presidential Walk of Fame,” with biographies of his predecessors written in Trump’s voice, has been installed along the West Colonnade, plus new granite pavers; Giant new flagpoles and a helipad have been added to the lawn.
And the Palm Room flooring and storied Lincoln Bedroom bathroom have been redone in marble. He’s also overseeing construction of a sprawling, 90,000-square-foot ballroom addition, which he says will double as a military complex.
The president was pressed by TIME on why the projects should be important to voters who are struggling to pay bills.
The White House, he said, “is a very special symbol. It’s a symbol of America. It’s a symbol of our greatness. It’s, I think, maybe the most important symbol that we have.”
When he came into office, he said, “The White House was a dump. The moldings were falling off the outside of the building. It hadn’t been painted in … it was just a disgraceful dump. The doors were falling off. The locks were broken. And I said, I got to fix it. And I do that better than anybody else.”
He claimed that US Secret Service had recommended taking down and rebuilding the historic Oval Office, which he stopped. CNN has reached out to USSS for comment.
“This whole place was a disgusting mess, and now it’s perfect,” he said.
Trump again expressed disappointment in the judges he selected to serve lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court, arguing they voted against him “too often.”
“I gave them the position of a lifetime, and they vote against me often,” Trump told TIME Magazine in the interview, referring to justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.
The president pointed to high court’s decisions on birthright citizenship and tariffs. The Supreme Court ruled earlier this year — with Coney Barrett and Gorsuch in support — that Trump violated federal law when he imposed sweeping tariffs across the globe. Months later, the highest court upheld birthright citizenship, with Coney Barrett among the majority.
“The Democrats stick like glue — those three, they virtually never vary. You can come up with the worst thing in the world and they’ll vote as a group,” Trump said. “And while I don’t like it, there’s something I admire about it: there’s loyalty.”
Asked if he wants loyalty from his Supreme Court picks, Trump responded, “No, I don’t want loyalty. I want good decisions. The tariff decision was disastrous for the country. I want good decisions for the country.”
His comments come even though the Supreme Court, which has a conservative majority, has dealt some major wins for Trump since his return to office.
Trump repeatedly declined during the interview to rule out demolishing the Kennedy Center as the arts institution remains embroiled in a legal battle and employees have been notified of a review of the building’s safety.
Asked if he was willing to demolish the center, Trump said, “It’s in terrible shape. I’d be willing to save it, but it’s in terrible, terrible shape. Only I can save it.”
Pressed once more on whether he would commit to not bringing in wrecking balls to demolish the building, Trump said, “I’m not committing to anything. We’re going to see how it plays out in court.”
He was pictured earlier this month reviewing a poster that appeared to float the idea of demolishing the Kennedy Center. The situation remains mired in legal proceedings.
Late Wednesday evening, the center’s executive director, Matt Floca, sent the small group of remaining staff an email noting that the building itself “remains temporarily closed” after teams have assessed its condition.
Trump also said that he would consider issuing pardons to members of his administration toward the end of his term.
“Yeah, sure I’d do that,” Trump said, adding that former President Joe Biden “gave pardons to everyone.”
Before leaving office, Biden issued several preemptive pardons, including clemency for Gen. Mark Milley, Dr. Anthony Fauci and members of Congress on the January 6 investigative committee, as well as members of his family under the belief that the Trump administration would target them for prosecution.
The typical jockeying for pardons has ramped up significantly under the Trump administration. The president himself has taken an increasingly personal role in the government’s clemency process, wielding pardons with historic frequency to aid allies and advance his own political grievances.
In the TIME interview, Trump said that if Republicans lose the House of Representatives in November, Democrats will “probably go after me and I’ll go after them.”
This story has been updated with additional information.
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