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以下是纽约州共和党籍众议员迈克·劳格勒接受《玛格丽特·布伦伯格与国家面谈》节目采访的文字实录，采访于2026年11月1日播出。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 现在连线共和党众议员迈克·劳格勒。他今天从纽约州加入我们的节目。你正处于本次选举周期中最受关注选区的竞选冲刺阶段。杰弗里斯领袖已将你的选区列为民主党重点打击目标。你认为选情会走向何方？
众议员迈克·劳格勒： 玛格丽特，我认为我们会在周二晚上获胜。过去四年间，我和我的团队处理了超过1万个选民案例，为选区争取到了超过1.4亿美元资金，推动通过了20多项法案，其中17项已签署成为法律。可以问问亚历山德里娅·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯（AOC），她有多少法案签署成法？事实是，我会亲自到场，我的选民都认识我。而与从弗吉尼亚州空降进入这个选区的对手不同，我在这里拥有住房，纳税，养家糊口。我想我的选民看重的是，我一直被评为国会中最具跨党派合作精神、最有效率的议员之一。我是唯一获得反对党议员背书的现任国会议员。贾里德·戈尔登（Jared Golden）在一个多月前刚刚支持我连任，我想人们知道我为他们带来了实实在在的好处，尤其是在民生问题上，我推动了美国历史上最大规模的减税，包括取消盐税上限，牵头推出住房法案，这将增加住房供应，降低房价。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 正如你刚刚提到的，民生是不分党派的选民最关心的首要问题。我们看到经济在增长，消费者仍在消费，但过去六个月，工资涨幅跟不上通胀。共和党人以降低物价为竞选纲领。你凭什么值得连任？当物价持续攀升时，为什么这个党值得信任？
众议员劳格勒： 正如我们在前任政府时期看到的，通胀累计上涨了21%，因此所有商品的基础价格都上涨了。显然，中东战争导致石油市场波动，进而推高了通胀。但正如你刚刚指出的，我们看到第三季度经济显著增长，达到3.4%。过去一年，私营部门新增了超过100万个就业岗位。我们的购买力在回升，但仍有工作要做。这就是为什么我把重心放在了降低物价的具体措施上。第一，我们确实推出了美国历史上最大规模的减税。第二，我们确实通过了36年来规模最大的住房法案，以增加供应、降低房价并提高资本可及性。在本届国会结束前——
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 总统并不喜欢那项法案。
众议员劳格勒： ——我们将完成许可改革法案，这将增加国内能源供应，直接影响从制造业、运输业到食品杂货的所有商品价格。玛格丽特，纽约的问题之一是，在凯西·霍楚尔（Kathy Hochul）执政期间， utilities费用上涨了58%，原因是她关闭了核电站，禁止使用天然气，还阻止了输油管道建设。我们正在努力纠正这个问题。这将大幅降低能源价格，而如果我们要抑制通胀、降低生活成本，降低能源价格至关重要。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 医疗保健是选民最关心的三大问题之一。你是试图将年底到期的《平价医疗法案》（Obamacare）补贴短期延期的共和党人之一。在本次选举周期中，许多民主党人承诺如果赢得多数席位，将恢复部分过期补贴。你支持这样做吗？你会与民主党合作推动此事吗？
众议员劳格勒： 当然会。看，我一直被评为国会中最具跨党派合作精神的议员之一。我在国会最好的朋友是民主党人乔什·戈特塞默（Josh Gottheimer）。我们共同牵头谈判，推动了《平价医疗法案》高级税收抵免的跨党派延期。坦白说，玛格丽特，是哈基姆·杰弗里斯（Hakeem Jeffries）和查克·舒默（Chuck Schumer）拒绝了这项跨党派协议。他们想要的是没有任何改革的三年纯延期。事实是，自《平价医疗法案》生效以来，医疗保险保费上涨了150%，而保险公司利润则上涨了2000%以上。我们需要改革这个体系。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 是啊。
众议员劳格勒： 我完全致力于解决这个国家的医疗成本问题。这是大多数美国人面临的最大成本驱动因素，我们需要跨党派的解决方案来切实应对这一问题。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 据测算，《大美丽法案》（OBBB）将导致到2034年，你的州未参保人数增加约86万人，因此该税收法案可能也对这一情况产生了不利影响。但我想问另一件事——
众议员劳格勒： 恕我直言，那个数字完全不准确。此外，纽约州在医疗补助计划（Medicaid）上的支出比其他49个州的平均水平高出80%。就连凯西·霍楚尔也承认，该体系存在浪费、欺诈和滥用问题，CDPAP（个人护理计划）项目在三年内从1000万美元膨胀到了110亿美元。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 好的，这是来自健康研究机构凯撒家庭基金会（KFF）的数据。我想问另一件事。埃隆·马斯克（Elon Musk）的政治行动委员会已投入数十万美元支持你，而你的对手凯特·康利（Cait Conley）批评你与埃隆·马斯克关系过密。她说你拒绝就人工智能或“超级智能”立法以保护埃隆·马斯克。你如何回应这一指控？
众议员劳格勒： 首先，凯特·康利是人工智能行业的“人工智能候选人”。她接受了两家人工智能公司的数十万美元捐款，却不肯告诉选民她获得这些合同的条件是什么——
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 那么埃隆·马斯克对此有什么期望？
众议员劳格勒： ——其次，是我在这个问题上带头推进，第二，等等。首先，这是外部团体的行为，因此我没有与任何在本次选举中花钱的人有过沟通。其次，是我与乔什·戈特塞默一起在这些问题上带头推进，提出了《打击非法人工智能法案》，为这些非法智能体和机器人设定国家标准，第三，针对前沿模型要求进行强制性测试。第三，凯特·康利违反了联邦选举法，她与众议院民主党超级政治行动委员会（House Democrat Super PAC）成立了联合财团（JFC），并从中提取数百万美元用于竞选广告。最后，玛格丽特，在过去一周，一个民主党超级政治行动委员会突然出现。他们尚未向联邦选举委员会（FEC）提交文件，明显违反了选举法，花费数百万美元声称我支持对非法移民实施大赦。这完全是谎言——
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 幕后黑手是谁？
众议员劳格勒： ——他们试图压低共和党投票率。这是民主党人在背后推动的。两年前他们就这么做过，现在又故技重施。美国锻造集团（American Forge Group）。这完全是对选民的欺诈，就像他们在阿拉斯加做的那样。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 是的。
众议员劳格勒： 坦白说，联邦调查局（FBI）和司法部已经告知我们，他们正在调查此事——
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 好的。
众议员劳格勒： ——应该对此展开调查。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 好吧。
众议员劳格勒： 他们违反了选举法，所以人们应该关注——
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 是的。
众议员劳格勒： ——我们的选举中实际正在发生什么。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 是的，我们确实向康利竞选团队询问了此事，他们告诉哥伦比亚广播公司，他们与发送的邮件无关。但我们也会向司法部核实。谢谢你，劳格勒议员。
众议员劳格勒： 他们也没有谴责这种行为。是的，谢谢你。
玛格丽特·布伦伯格： 我们会关注你的竞选情况，先生。稍后再见。
Transcript: Rep. Mike Lawler on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Nov. 1, 2026
Updated on: November 1, 2026 / 2:51 PM EST / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Rep. Mike Lawler, Republican of New York, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Nov. 1, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Republican Congressman Mike Lawler. He joins us today from New York. You are in this home stretch of campaigning in one of the most closely watched districts this cycle. Leader Jeffries has singled out your district as a top target for Democrats. Where do you see this headed?
REP. MIKE LAWLER: Well, I think we’re going to be victorious on Tuesday night, Margaret. I’ve done the work, over the last four years, between my staff and I, we’ve closed over 10,000 constituent cases, brought back over $140 million to the district, passed over two dozen bills, 17 of which have been signed into law. Ask AOC how many she’s had signed into law. The fact is, I show up, and my constituents know me. And unlike my opponent, who parachuted into this district from Virginia, I own a home here. I pay taxes. I’m raising my family here. And I think my constituents respect the fact that I’ve consistently been rated among the most bipartisan and effective members of Congress. I’m the only sitting member of Congress endorsed by a member of the opposing party. Jared Golden endorsed my re-election just a little over a month ago, and I think people know that I’ve delivered for them, especially when it comes to the issue of affordability, delivering the largest tax cut in American history, including lifting the cap on salt and leading the housing bill, which will increase supply and bring down prices.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, as you just mentioned, affordability is a top issue for voters, no matter what party they are in. We are seeing the economy growing. We’re still seeing consumers spend, but for the last six months, we are seeing that wages are not keeping up with inflation. Republicans campaigned on bringing prices down. Why do you deserve re-election? Why does the party deserve trust when prices have only continued to climb?
REP. LAWLER: Well, as we saw under the prior administration, inflation cumulatively rose 21%. So the baseline price of everything went up. Obviously, with the war in the Middle East, it has caused volatility in the oil markets, which- which has resulted in a- in a spike in inflation. But as you just pointed out, we saw significant growth in Q3, 3.4%. Over a million private sector jobs have been created over the past year. We are seeing purchasing power rise, but there’s still work to do. And that’s why I have focused extensively on what we can do to bring down prices. Number one, we did deliver the largest tax cut. Number two, we did pass the largest housing bill in 36 years to increase supply and bring down prices and increase access to capital. Before the end of this Congress–
MARGARET BRENNAN: The president didn’t love that bill.
REP. LAWLER: –we will finalize a permitting- before the end of Congress, this Congress, we will finalize a permitting reform bill, which will increase domestic supply of energy, which directly impacts the prices of everything from manufacturing to transportation to groceries. And one of the problems in New York, Margaret, utilities are up 58% under Kathy Hochul because they shut down nuclear power, they ban natural gas, they blocked pipelines. We are working to rectify that. That will drive down energy prices significantly, which is critical if we’re going to bring down inflation and bring down costs.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Healthcare is one of the top three issues for voters. You are one of the Republicans who tried to secure a short-term extension of those Obamacare subsidies that expired at the end of the year. In this cycle, many Democrats are promising that if they win the majority, they will restore some of those lapsed subsidies. Do you support that? Would you work with Democrats to do that?
REP. LAWLER: Oh, absolutely. Look, I’ve consistently been rated among the most bipartisan members of Congress. My best friend in Congress is a Democrat, Josh Gottheimer. We led that effort to negotiate a bipartisan extension of the ACA enhanced premium tax credit. Frankly, Margaret, it was Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer that rejected the bipartisan agreement. They wanted to go for a clean three-year extension with no reforms. The fact is, since the Affordable Care Act took effect, health insurance premiums are up 150% while insurance company profits are up over 2,000%. We need to fix the system.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REP. LAWLER: I am fully committed to addressing the healthcare costs in this country. It’s the biggest driver of costs facing most Americans, and we need bipartisan solutions to actually deal with it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The OBBB, the Big Beautiful Bill, was projected to have increased the uninsured population in your state by about 860,000 people through 2034, so that tax bill also may have hurt that case. But let me ask you about something else–
REP. LAWLER: Well, respectfully, that’s just- that’s just not an accurate- that’s just not an accurate number at all. But moreover, New York spends 80% more on Medicaid than the average of the other 49 states. Even Kathy Hochul admits they have waste, fraud, and abuse in the system with the CDPAP program that went from $10 million to $11 billion in three years.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, that’s the Health Research Group KFF. Let me ask about something else. Elon Musk’s Political Action Committee has put forward hundreds of thousands of dollars to support you, and your opponent, Cait Conley, has criticized you for your ties to Elon Musk. She says you’re refusing to legislate on artificial intelligence or “superintelligence” to protect Elon Musk. How do you respond to that allegation?
REP. LAWLER: Well, first of all, Cait Conley is the AI candidate for the AI industry. She’s the one being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by two AI companies that she won’t even tell the voters what she did to earn those contracts–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, what does Elon Musk expect for that?
REP. LAWLER: –secondarily, I’m leading on this issue- second, wait a minute. Well, first of all, it’s an outside group, so I’ve had no communication with anybody that’s spending in this race. Second of all, I’m the one leading on these issues with Josh Gottheimer, the Stop Rogue AI Act to set national standards with respect to these rogue agents and bots, and secondarily for the frontier models to require mandatory testing. Third, Cait Conley has violated federal election law by setting up a JFC with the House Super PAC, the House Democrat Super PAC, and she is spending out of that on campaign ads, millions of dollars. And lastly, Margaret, in the last week, a Democrat Super PAC popped up. They have not filed with the FEC in clear violation of election law, spending millions of dollars saying that I support amnesty for criminal illegal aliens. It is a straight-up lie–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Who is behind that?
REP. LAWLER: –they are trying to drive down Republican turnout. These are Democrats supporting this. They did this two years ago, and they’re doing it again. American Forge Group. This is a straight-up fraud perpetrated on the voters, like they’re doing in Alaska.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REP. LAWLER: And frankly, the FBI and the Department of Justice have informed us that they are investigating it–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
REP. LAWLER: –and it should be investigated.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Alright.
REP. LAWLER: They are violating election law, so people should be focused–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REP. LAWLER: –very clearly on what is actually happening in our elections.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, we did ask the Conley campaign about that, and they told CBS they had nothing to do with the mailers being sent out. But we will ask the Justice Department as well. Thank you, Congressman Lawler.
REP. LAWLER: And they didn’t condemn it either. Yep. Thank you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We will be watching your race, sir. Back in a moment.
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