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以下是2026年10月25日德克萨斯州民主党州长候选人吉娜·伊诺霍萨做客《玛格丽特·布伦南访谈》节目的采访文字实录。
玛格丽特·布伦南：我们现在将目光转向德克萨斯州州长竞选，有请民主党候选人吉娜·伊诺霍萨。她从奥斯汀连线参与我们的节目。很高兴你能做客。
德克萨斯州众议员吉娜·伊诺霍萨：很高兴能和你连线。
玛格丽特·布伦南：如果你当选，你将成为30多年来首位民主党州长，也是首位女性州长。不过，你所参选的这个州，共和党选民比民主党多。那么，你会用什么样的信息呼吁共和党选民跨党派投票给你？
伊诺霍萨：目前，民众都厌倦了千篇一律的政治。我们大多数人都看到政治早已失灵，因此在德克萨斯州，我们看到民众对两党都深感失望，正在开辟一条全新的前进道路，在某些方面属于跨党派路线。超大规模数据中心是现州长阿博特及所在政府为利益集团服务、任由德克萨斯民众自生自灭的现实体现。公立学校是另一个问题，在这个问题上，两党一直携手支持我们的公立学校。因此，听我说，这为德克萨斯民众提供了一个评判候选人的机会。我相信这就是为什么过去六周民调中已有六七个支持我们的民调发布，所有民调都显示我们在误差范围内领先。投票率很高，我们这边的热情也很高，所以我们对目前的选情非常有信心。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你提到了学校。我很惊讶地看到德克萨斯州有181个学区每周仅开课四天，有些学校甚至已经停课。其中多少是因为民众从农村地区迁往人口更密集的城市，又有多少是因为资金不足？
伊诺霍萨：主要原因是资金不足。格雷格·阿博特在2023年扣留了我们学校急需的资金，因为我们没有通过教育券法案。他当时说如果我们不通过该法案，就会扣留资金，而我们确实抗争了。我和詹姆斯·塔拉伊科领导了反对教育券的斗争。他去年推动通过了教育券法案，这一法案从我们社区公立学校拿走了十亿美元，投入到不受监管的私立学校。因此，学区处境艰难，学校停课，教师离职。你应该知道，公立学校是德克萨斯人身份认同的一部分，德州宪法明确规定公立学校对我们的自由至关重要，是我们大多数或许多县的最大雇主，也是高中橄榄球之夜（Friday Night Lights，德克萨斯州知名高中橄榄球赛事传统）的核心载体。因此，格雷格·阿博特对我们公立学校的所作所为引发了两党的愤怒。听着，我正在推行一项广泛议程，目标是保障美国梦，而公立学校是美国梦的核心组成部分，因为它是通往美国梦的门户和机遇。因此，拯救德克萨斯州公立学校是我议程的核心内容，这也是我的竞选活动能引起德克萨斯民众共鸣的原因。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你一直在宣扬德克萨斯州是美国未参保率最高、未参保儿童数量最多的州。如果你当选，州议会仍将由共和党控制，副州长很可能也是共和党人。你如何与他们合作改善医疗保健？
伊诺霍萨：我告诉你，我的议程不是民主党议程，而是一项受民众欢迎的民粹主义议程，旨在为德克萨斯民众谋利。我的医疗保健政策和计划是确保每个德克萨斯儿童都能获得优质医疗保健，因为我们州的未参保儿童数量是全美最多的。我们是少数几个没有扩大医疗补助计划的州之一。扩大医疗补助计划是实现这一目标的一种方式。过去的民主党候选人竞选时都承诺扩大医疗补助计划，我不这么做是因为大多数民众不明白这意味着什么。他们只知道为孩子提供优质医疗保健意味着什么，这才是我竞选的核心。我认为这会得到两党的支持。德克萨斯州还有一个大问题：有医保的民众支付的费用更高，想要得到所需的医生和药物也更困难。因此，禁止恶意拒赔也是我议程的重要组成部分。
玛格丽特·布伦南：不过明确一下，你确实想要扩大医疗补助计划，对吗？
伊诺霍萨：是的，但我竞选时不把这个作为核心议题。这只是操作层面的问题，是一种生硬的谈论保障民众医保的方式。我们谈论的是确保每个德克萨斯儿童都能获得优质医疗保健，这也是我“保障美国梦”议程的一部分。相关内容可以在我的网站GinaforTexas.com上查看。
玛格丽特·布伦南：好的，阿博特州长为你提到的数据中心提供了20年的税收减免，并希望将你的州打造成他所说的人工智能发展中心。你呼吁立即暂停建设任何数据中心，直到州议会出台相关保护措施。你是否打算废除那些税收减免政策？你希望从共和党那边争取到哪些具体的保护措施，让他们能支持你的提议？
伊诺霍萨：有趣的是，在反对数据中心方面，比任何人都更积极的是“让美国再次伟大”（MAGA）阵营。因为这些数据中心大多建在我们农村的无人管辖社区，没有分区规划，没有规章制度，因此德克萨斯州的这一地区正被这些数据中心利用，德克萨斯农村民众也在被利用。因此，共和党也面临民众要求出台相关法规制止数据中心入侵的压力。是的，我会废除那些税收减免政策，最重要的是，我会让德克萨斯民众参与决策，决定是否允许这些数据中心进驻他们的社区，以及如何进驻。这里涉及水资源的重大担忧、电力成本的重大担忧、财产权的重大担忧，因此我们需要全面审视这些问题，确保德克萨斯民众得到保护，首先要有发言权。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你提到废除税收减免，其中一位在德州的重要投资者是埃隆·马斯克，他为阿博特州长的竞选活动捐款约50万美元。据我了解，你已经提起诉讼，试图获取他与阿博特州长之间的电子邮件。你这么做的目的是什么？说实话，针对这位雇佣了大量德州民众的人，这么做危险吗？
伊诺霍萨：听着，作为德克萨斯的领导者，我们不能害怕做正确的事，而正确的事就是看看这些邮件内容是什么。近几个月我们有一些突发新闻。就在最近，我们得知格雷格·阿博特的公园与野生动物委员会计划将博卡奇卡海滩卖给埃隆·马斯克，而马斯克计划在那里发射356枚火箭。我来自德克萨斯这一地区，每次这些火箭发射时，都感觉像发生了地震一样。因此，我们需要确切了解到底发生了什么。我们知道埃隆·马斯克在向格雷格·阿博特的竞选捐款后，获得了17亿美元的税收减免。我们知道今年夏天，格雷格·阿博特通过干预，将1亿美元的宽带合同转给了埃隆·马斯克，这是参议院听证会上宽带办公室主任作证的内容。因此，有很多信息我们需要了解，作为一名立法者，我有责任和权利查看这些邮件的内容。
玛格丽特·布伦南：我们会关注你能取得什么进展，继续关注你的竞选活动。感谢你今天抽出时间。我们稍后回来。
Transcript: Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Gina Hinojosa on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Oct. 25, 2026
October 25, 2026 / 11:21 AM EDT / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Gina Hinojosa that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Oct. 25, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to the Texas governor’s race and Democratic candidate Gina Hinojosa. She joins us from Austin. Good to have you here.
TEXAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE GINA HINOJOSA: It’s great to be with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, if you win, you would be the first Democratic governor and the first female governor in over 30 years. You’re running in a state, though, that has more Republicans than Democrats. So, what is your message to get Republicans to cross over and vote for you?
HINOJOSA: Well, right now, nobody wants politics as usual. Most of us see that it is broken, and so what we are seeing in Texas is because there is deep disappointment in both political parties, people are forging a new way for- forward. One that is postpartisan in some ways. The data centers are a physical manifestation of a governor, Governor Abbott, and a government that’s working for the moneyed interests and leaving the people of Texas to fend for themselves. Public schools are another issue where there has been a bipartisan coming together in support of our public schools. And so, listen, this creates an opportunity for Texans to evaluate the candidate. I believe that’s why we have now six or seven polls out of the last six weeks that show us winning. All polls show us within the margin of error. Turnout is high. Enthusiasm is high on our side, so we feel really good about where we are.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You mentioned schools. I was surprised to see that 181 school districts in Texas are operating just four days a week. Some schools have shut down. How much of this is people just moving to more populated areas out of the rural ones, and how much of it is funding?
HINOJOSA: A lot of it is funding. Greg Abbott in 2023 withheld funding our schools needed because we didn’t pass vouchers. He said he would withhold it if we didn’t pass it, and we did it. We fought it. Myself- myself and James Talarico led that fight to stop school vouchers. He passed it last year. That took a billion dollars from our neighborhood public schools to take and put into unaccountable private schools. And so, school districts are really struggling. Our schools are shutting down. Teachers have left. And you should know that public schools are part of our identity as Texans. They are enshrined in our Texas Constitution, as being essential to our liberties, they are the largest employer in most or many of our counties. They are Friday Night Lights, and so there is bipartisan anger about what Greg Abbott has done to our public schools. And listen, I’m running my broad agendas to secure the American Dream, and public schools are essential- are an essential part of the American dream because they provide the gateway and the opportunity to the American dream. So saving Texas public schools is a key part of my agenda, and that’s why this campaign has resonated amongst Texans.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’ve been campaigning on the issue of Texas having the highest uninsured rate and the highest number of uninsured children in this country. If you win, you’re still going to have a Republican-controlled legislature. You’re likely to have a Republican lieutenant governor. How do you work with them to improve health care?
HINOJOSA: Well, I’ll tell you that my agenda is not a Democratic agenda, it is a popular, populist agenda, one that delivers for the people of Texas. So my healthcare policy and platform and plan is to ensure every Texas child has quality healthcare because we have the most uninsured children of any state in America. We’re one of the few states that hasn’t expanded Medicaid. Expanding Medicaid is one way to get there. Democrats of the past have run on expanding Medicaid, I am not because most people don’t understand what that means. They know what it means to provide quality healthcare to our children. So that is what I am running on. I think there is bipartisan support to get there. There’s also a big problem in Texas with those of us who have insurance paying more, and it’s harder to see the doctors we need, getting- and getting the medication we need. So banning those bad faith denials is a key part of my agenda as well.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you do want to expand Medicaid, just to be clear?
HINOJOSA: Yes, but we’re not running on that. That is just the process. It’s kind of a geeky way to talk about insuring people. We’re talking about ensuring every Texas child has quality healthcare, and that’s part of my Secure the American Dream agenda. That can be found on my website at GinaforTexas.com.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so Governor Abbott gave hyperscale data centers, which you mentioned, a 20-year tax break, and wanted to make your state the epicenter, he said, of AI development. You are calling for a moratorium, an immediate one, on building any data centers until the state legislature puts in place protections. Do you want to repeal those tax breaks? Like, what exactly are the protections you think you can get your Republicans that you will deal with on board with?
HINOJOSA: You know what’s interesting is nobody’s pushing back against the data centers harder than MAGA because these data centers are mostly moving into our rural communities that are unincorporated. There are no zoning regulations, there are no rules or laws, and so this- these- this part of Texas is being taken advantage of by these data centers, and the people of Texas and rural Texas are being taken advantage of. So, there’s pressure on Republicans as well to put in place some laws to stop this data center takeover. Yes, I would repeal those tax breaks, and most importantly, I would give Texans a seat at the table to decide if and how these data centers come into their community. There are big water concerns, there are big electricity cost concerns, property rights concerns, and so we need to visit all of it and make sure Texans are protected, and first and foremost have a seat at the table.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You talk about repealing tax breaks. Someone who’s a big investor whose companies are in Texas is Elon Musk. He’s given about half a million dollars to Governor Abbott’s campaign. You’ve filed a lawsuit, as I understand it, to try to obtain emails between him and- and Governor Abbott. What are you trying to do with this? And- and isn’t it dangerous, frankly, to go after someone who employs so many Texans?
HINOJOSA: Well, listen, we can’t be afraid to do what’s right as leaders in Texas, and so the right thing is to see what are these emails about. We have had breaking news in the last few months. Just most recently, we learned that Greg Abbott’s Parks and Wildlife Board plans to sell our beach, Boca Chica Beach, to Elon Musk, who has plans to launch 356 rockets from these sites. I’m from this part of Texas, every time these rockets launch, it feels like an earthquake happening. So we need to know what is- exactly is going on. We know Elon Musk received $1.7 billion in tax breaks after he donated to Greg Abbott’s campaign. We know that over this summer, Greg Abbott intervened to redirect a $100 million broadband contract to Elon Musk. This was from testimony during a Senate hearing–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
HINOJOSA: –by the director of the broadband office. So, there’s a lot that we need to see, and as a legislator, I have a responsibility and a right to see what those emails are about.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll see what you get. We’ll watch your campaign. Thank you for your time today. We’ll be back in a moment.
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