埃尔赛义德与罗杰斯在密歇根州参议院辩论中就伊朗问题和特朗普展开交锋,互相辱骂


2026-10-08 22:09:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

作者:亚伦·纳瓦罗 数字记者
亚伦·纳瓦罗是哥伦比亚广播公司新闻的数字记者。他曾报道2024年选举,还曾在2021和2022年选举周期担任哥伦比亚广播公司新闻政治部门的助理制片人。

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更新时间:2026年10月8日 / 美国东部时间晚上11:17 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

在周四的密歇根州参议院辩论中,民主党人阿卜杜勒·埃尔赛义德称其对手“软弱”、“怯懦”,是“特朗普政府的提线木偶”。共和党人迈克·罗杰斯则称对手是“一个出故障的AI聊天机器人”,其竞选是一场“骗局”,会“为了获胜不择手段”。

这场美国关注度最高的中期选举角逐之一的两位候选人,在长达一小时的辩论中就伊朗战争、对加拿大贸易战、移民、医疗政策以及生活成本问题展开交锋。两人几乎每次交锋都互相辱骂,指责对方反复无常且存在财务纠葛。

在唯一一次广告休息后,大急流城WOOD-TV的辩论主持人里克·奥尔宾表示,两人甚至在直播休会期间也在争执。奥尔宾曾多次恳求候选人“配合我”,并说道:“我理解你们的热情,但拜托,尽量保持秩序。”

埃尔赛义德在激烈的初选中胜出获得民主党提名,这位前卫生官员曾因支持单一支付者医疗体系以及反对美国向以色列提供军事援助,与党内温和派产生过冲突。前国会议员罗杰斯凭借特朗普总统的背书几乎毫无悬念地赢得共和党提名,而特朗普不稳定的支持率给其所在政党的中期选举候选人带来了软肋。

多数民调显示,两位候选人的支持率差距极小,他们将竞争接替即将退休的民主党参议员加里·彼得斯的职位。这场选举对于决定哪个政党掌控参议院至关重要。

辩论期间,两位候选人都呼吁暂停征收汽油税,原因是中东冲突持续推高能源价格,同时他们都对美国与加拿大针锋相对的关税战提出质疑。

在伊朗战争问题上,罗杰斯表示“现在是结束这场战争的时候了”。他还主张“我们需要”通过与美国北部邻国达成协议来结束与加拿大的贸易争端,称他已与商务部长霍华德·卢特尼克“谈及此事以促成协议落地”。

但埃尔赛义德就特朗普政府的贸易和伊朗政策抨击罗杰斯,指责他完全听命于总统,不愿反抗特朗普先生。

“他与总统有着直接联系,而总统正确保这场战争不会结束,他却没有利用这一点,”埃尔赛义德在谈及伊朗冲突时说道,他将这场冲突称为“一场愚蠢的战争”。

当被问及特朗普政府打击非法移民的行动是否过于极端时,罗杰斯表示,今年早些时候在明尼苏达州开展的密集行动“或许并不恰当”。

“他们已经纠正了错误,做出了调整,”罗杰斯说道,随后辩称移民执法人员“正在瞄准那些非法入境且作恶多端的谋杀犯和强奸犯”。

埃尔赛义德一直呼吁废除美国移民及海关执法局,当被问及犯下暴力罪行的无证移民是否应被驱逐时,他回答:“应该,但你不能通过践踏整个宪法的方式来这么做。”

与此同时,罗杰斯抨击埃尔赛义德支持《全民医保》计划,称其医疗观点“十分危险”,并声称该计划将涉及“接管你的私人健康保险并交给政府”。当埃尔赛义德表示“如果民众希望保留私人健康保险,我完全没问题”时,罗杰斯插话道:“我绝对没听说过这种说法。”

外交政策占据了辩论的大部分内容。埃尔赛义德频繁批评伊朗战争,将罗杰斯描绘成一个“认为凡事都能靠战争解决”的鹰派人物。埃尔赛义德表示,他支持通过外交途径解决伊朗问题,并提及奥巴马时期限制伊朗铀浓缩的协议,而特朗普先生在其第一任期内终止了该协议。

罗杰斯表示,他认为如今可以结束战争,因为伊朗的核计划和常规军事力量已严重受损。

埃尔赛义德是以色列政府的激烈批评者,指责其在加沙地带对哈马斯的战争中的行为,并反对美国向以色列提供军事援助。当被主持人问及他认为伊朗还是以色列构成更大威胁时,埃尔赛义德称这是一个“荒谬的假设”,辩称是以色列促使美国卷入与伊朗的战争,并表示“两者都以各自的方式证明了其危险性”。

罗杰斯称自己是以色列的坚定支持者。当被问及以色列做出何种举动会让他失去支持时,他表示:“如果他们谈论使用核武器,那他们肯定会失去我的支持。不过,我从未听他们这么说过。”

罗杰斯指责埃尔赛义德未发表声明纪念2023年10月7日哈马斯对以色列发动致命恐怖袭击三周年,称其对手“甚至都不愿承认这场痛苦、恐怖主义、强奸和谋杀”。埃尔赛义德表示,他已谴责过该袭击,但“没有像你刚才那样将其变成政治闹剧”。辩论结束后,他稍后告诉记者,他觉得自己无论就恐怖袭击说什么都会受到审查和政治化处理。

两位候选人都就竞选捐款互相施压,质疑对方的财务状况。埃尔赛义德指责罗杰斯在佛罗里达州拥有一处滨水住宅,而罗杰斯则提及埃尔赛义德妻子在阿联酋的出租房产。

“至少佛罗里达州在美国境内,”罗杰斯曾如此说道,这引得埃尔赛义德回应:“那又不在密歇根州,老兄。”

El-Sayed and Rogers spar over Iran and Trump, and toss insults, in Michigan Senate debate

2026-10-08 22:09:00-0400 / CBS News

By Aaron Navarro Digital Reporter
Aaron Navarro is a CBS News digital reporter. He covered the 2024 elections and was previously an associate producer for the CBS News political unit in the 2021 and 2022 election cycles.

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Updated on: October 8, 2026 / 11:17 PM EDT / CBS News

In Thursday’s Michigan Senate debate, Democrat Abdul El-Sayed called his opponent “weak,” “cowardly” and a “sock puppet for the Trump administration.” Republican Mike Rogers called his opponent a “glitchy AI chatbot” who is running a “con” and will “say anything to win.”

The two candidates in one of the country’s most closely watched midterm contests spent the hourlong debate sparring over the Iran war, the trade war with Canada, immigration, healthcare policy and cost-of-living issues. They also tossed insults across the stage in nearly every exchange, accusing each other of flip-flopping and financial entanglements.

After the only commercial break, debate moderator Rick Albin of WOOD-TV in Grand Rapids said the two men were arguing even when they were off-air. At various points, Albin pleaded with the candidates to “work with me” and said: “I appreciate your passion, but please, let’s try to keep this orderly.”

El-Sayed secured the Democratic nomination after a bitter primary in which the former health official clashed with the party’s moderate wing over his support for single-payer healthcare and his opposition to U.S. military aid for Israel. A former congressman, Rogers won the GOP nomination with little competition after an endorsement from President Trump, whose rocky approval ratings have posed a vulnerability for his party’s midterm candidates.

Most polls show a razor-thin race between the two candidates, who are competing to replace retiring Democratic Sen. Gary Peters. The race could be pivotal in determining which party wins control of the Senate.

During the debate, both candidates called for pausing the gas tax as the conflict in the Middle East keeps energy prices high, and questioned the tit-for-tat tariff war with Canada.

On the Iran war, Rogers said “this would be the time to wrap it up.” He also argued “we need to end” the trade dispute with Canada by striking a deal with the U.S.’ northern neighbor, saying he spoke with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick “about getting the done.”

But El-Sayed pushed Rogers on the Trump administration’s trade and Iran policies, accusing him of running at the president’s behest and being unwilling to stand up to Mr. Trump.

“He’s got a direct line to the president who’s making sure the war does not end, and he’s not using it,” El-Sayed said of the Iran conflict, which he called a “stupid war.”

Asked if the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration has gone too far, Rogers said the intense operations in Minnesota earlier this year were “probably not appropriate.”

“They made that correction. They made an adjustment,” Rogers said, before arguing agents are “targeting murderers and rapists who were here illegally doing bad things.”

El-Sayed — who has called for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to be abolished — was asked whether an undocumented immigrant who committed a violent crime should be deported. He answered: “Yes, but you don’t have to do that by violating the whole Constitution.”

Meanwhile, Rogers attacked El-Sayed over his support for Medicare For All, calling his views on healthcare “dangerous” and arguing it would involve “taking over your private health insurance and giving it to the government.” When El-Sayed said that “if families want to keep their private health insurance, that’s fine by me,” Rogers interjected: “That is absolutely news to me.”

Foreign policy animated much of the debate. El-Sayed frequently criticized the Iran war and cast Rogers as a hawk who “thinks there’s a war for everything.” El-Sayed said he supports a diplomatic solution on Iran, pointing to the Obama-era deal that limited Iran’s uranium enrichment, an agreement that Mr. Trump ended during his first term.

Rogers said he believes the war can end now because Iran’s nuclear program and conventional military have been severely degraded.

El-Sayed is a vehement critic of the Israeli government over its conduct during its war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and opposes U.S. military assistance to Israel. Asked by the moderator whether he views Iran or Israel as a bigger threat, El-Sayed called it a “ridiculous hypothetical,” arguing Israel spurred the U.S. to enter the war with Iran and saying “both of them have proven dangerous in their own way.”

Rogers described himself as a staunch backer of Israel. Asked if there is anything Israel could do to cause him to lose support, he said: “If they were talking about using nuclear weapons, they would definitely lose my support. I’ve never heard them say that, though.”

Rogers pressed El-Sayed for not putting out a statement marking three years since Hamas’ deadly Oct. 7, 2023, terror attack on Israel, alleging that his opponent “could not bring himself to even acknowledge the pain, the terrorism, the rape, the murders.” El-Sayed said he has condemned the attack but “didn’t turn it into political theater like you just did.” He later told reporters after the debate that he felt whatever he had said about the terror attack would be scrutinized and politicized.

Both candidates pressed each other on campaign donations and questioned each other’s finances, with El-Sayed dinging Rogers over a waterfront home that he owns in Florida and Rogers bringing up El-Sayed’s wife’s rental property in the United Arab Emirates.

“At least Florida is in the United States,” Rogers said at one point, prompting El-Sayed to respond, “It’s not in Michigan, my guy.”

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