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当被问及是否愿意于本周在纽约与特朗普总统会面时,伊朗总统马苏德·佩泽希基安表示,伊朗与美国之间存在“不信任氛围”——这一会面提议由美国领导人提出。
佩泽希基安在周五接受《与玛格丽特·布伦南会面》采访时指出,在细数美国在两国谈判期间多次攻击伊朗的行径后,他需要清楚“我们到底想要达成何种共识”。
但他同时表示,如果美国接受伊朗最新提出的重新开放霍尔木兹海峡的提案,伊朗将“信守我们所承诺的一切”。
伊朗外交部长于本周提出提案,提议在7天后重新开放霍尔木兹海峡,并重启与美国的谈判,作为最终核协议的初步步骤。该提案于纽约联合国大会期间公布,美国尚未作出回应。
特朗普曾表示愿意在纽约与伊朗官员会面。尽管特朗普政府高级官员曾通过中间人与伊朗官员进行间接谈判,但总统本人并未出面。在联合国大会演讲中,特朗普称他在“是否与伊朗达成协议”或“彻底摧毁伊朗”之间面临“重大抉择”。他还预测,双方要到中期选举后才能达成协议。
佩泽希基安表示,鉴于“伊朗与美国之间已经形成的不信任氛围”,他很难与特朗普进行面对面会晤。
“只要他们不停止每天强加给我们的所作所为,就很难信任他们,”他说,“他们每天都在加大对我们的制裁。每天都在威胁我们。每天都在攻击我们。而且他们不遵守书面承诺。所以如果我们进行谈判,他们真的会信守承诺吗?”
布伦南问及伊朗预计何时能收到美国对其重新开放霍尔木兹海峡并重启谈判的提议的回应。
“如果这一信息传达给了美国总统,或是参与讨论的采访者和相关人士,那么从他们接受提议的那天起,相关进程自然就会启动,”他说。
他指责美国在夏季破坏了被称为“谅解备忘录”(MOU)的停火协议,此前伊朗袭击了商业航运船只,美国随后对伊朗发动了反击。
美国坚持认为,伊朗不应控制进入霍尔木兹海峡的航道,包括经过阿曼领土的航道,也不应对过往船只收取通行费。伊朗则要求船只必须寻求许可,并遵循伊朗批准的航运路线。
“如果他们按照这一框架行事,我认为我们所有人都会信守承诺,”他在谈及美伊最初的协议时说道。
今年7月破裂的为期60天的停火协议,原本旨在为伊朗和美国就伊朗核计划的未来展开谈判争取时间——这一棘手问题是双方始终难以达成协议的症结所在。
近年来,伊朗将铀浓缩至接近武器级的纯度,尽管伊朗否认有制造核武器的意图,但它拒绝完全放弃铀浓缩活动。
特朗普过去曾表示,伊朗必须停止铀浓缩——这一立场比奥巴马时代的核协议更为强硬,当时的协议允许伊朗进行低纯度铀浓缩,并对其核项目规模和国际核查人员准入作出限制。
佩泽希基安告诉布伦南,伊朗现在将允许联合国核核查人员入境。
“完全正确,”他说。
布伦南指出,此前联合国国际原子能机构的核查人员曾试图入境,但未获得全面访问权限。
“贵国现在是否会允许武器核查人员入境?”布伦南再次问道。
“完全正确,”他再次回应,并补充道,“如果他们希望前来进行核查,我们可以在谈判中就这一具体议题达成共识和协议。”
与此同时,佩泽希基安声称伊朗并未试图制造核武器:“研制核武器是哈拉姆(被禁止)的,”他使用了“被禁止”一词,坚称即便伊朗国内有人想要制造核武器,“从宗教角度来说,他们也不允许走上这条道路。”
伊朗最高领袖莫赫塔巴·哈梅内伊
布伦南问及佩泽希基安与伊朗最高领袖莫赫塔巴·哈梅内伊的沟通情况。今年早些时候,美国和以色列发动袭击导致哈梅内伊的父亲、最高领袖阿里·哈梅内伊身亡后,莫赫塔巴·哈梅内伊就再也没有公开露面。
这位伊朗总统坚称,新任最高领袖“没有具体的 ongoing 健康问题或健康挑战”,并表示他们上次会面了两次,其中一次长达7个多小时。他说他们当时坐着“那么长时间”,“换了好几个姿势”,因为他们不习惯久坐。
“从医学角度来看,他完全健康,”佩泽希基安说,并补充道他面部和腿部的伤势已经康复。“作为一名医生,我可以这么说,请相信我。他没有任何问题。”
当被问及莫赫塔巴·哈梅内伊是否在外交事务上为佩泽希基安提供建议时,总统解释说,有一个“由各个组织、安全部队、议会代表、政府机构的六名成员组成的团队,他们坐下来进行讨论,就决策进程进行磋商,并通过协调达成任何决定。”
布伦南指出,伊朗人如今身处他们处于战争状态的国家,而就在几个月前他们还躲在避难所里,这一点值得关注。
“我们几个月前并没有躲在避难所里,”他说,“我们是如何治理国家的?”
“我们并非处于避难所中,”佩泽希基安补充道,“如果我们当时躲在避难所里,什么事都办不成。”
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian talks about proposal to reopen Strait of Hormuz, says Iran would allow nuclear inspectors
September 25, 2026 / 9:10 PM EDT / CBS News
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said there was an “atmosphere of distrust” between Iran and the U.S. when asked whether he would have been willing to meet with President Trump in New York this week, an idea raised by the U.S. leader.
Pezeshkian, during an interview with “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” Friday, suggested that he would need to know “what exactly we want to reach an understanding on,” after running through a list of the times the U.S. has attacked Iran while the countries were in the midst of negotiations.
But he also said Iran would “abide by whatever we commit to” if the U.S. accepts the latest Iranian proposal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran’s foreign minister offered a proposal this week to reopen the strait after seven days and restart talks with the U.S. as an initial step toward a final nuclear deal. The U.S. has yet to respond to the Iranian proposal, which was announced during the United Nations General Assembly in New York City.
Mr. Trump had expressed openness to meeting with Iranian officials in New York. Although top Trump officials held indirect talks with Iranian officials through mediators, the president himself did not. During his speech to the General Assembly, Mr. Trump said he has a “big decision to make” on whether to cut a deal with Iran or “annihilate” the country. He also predicted that the two sides will not reach an agreement until after the midterms.
Pezeshkian suggested it would be difficult for him to meet face-to-face with Mr. Trump, pointing to an “atmosphere of distrust that has developed between Iran and the United States.”
“As long as they don’t cease doing what they’re imposing on us every day, it’s difficult to trust them,” he said. “Every day, they increase the sanctions against us. Every day, they threaten us. Every day, they strike us. And they don’t honor what they have put in writing. So if they engage in talks, will they actually follow through?”
Brennan asked when Iran expects a response from the United States on its offer to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and restart negotiations.
“If this message reaches the president of the United States, or the interviewers and those involved in the discussions, naturally the process will begin from the very day they accept it,” he said.
He blamed the U.S. for the collapse of the ceasefire agreement known as the “memorandum of understanding,” or MOU, over the summer, after Iran targeted commercial shipping vessels and the U.S. responded by carrying out attacks on Iran.
The U.S. has insisted Iran should not control the waterways entering the Strait of Hormuz, including those that pass Omani territory, or charge tolls for ships that pass through. Iran has demanded that ships seek permission and follow an Iranian-approved shipping route.
“If they operate according to that framework, I think all of us will abide by it,” he said of the original U.S.-Iran agreement.
The 60-day ceasefire deal that fell apart in July was designed to buy time for Iran and the U.S. to hold talks on the future of Iran’s nuclear program — a thorny issue that both sides have struggled to reach a deal on.
In recent years, Iran has enriched uranium to near weapons-grade levels of purity, and while it denies any interest in building a nuclear weapon, it has refused to give up uranium enrichment altogether.
Mr. Trump has said in the past that Iran must stop enriching uranium — a more hardline stance than the Obama-era nuclear deal that allowed Iran to enrich to a low level, with limits on the size of its program and international inspectors.
Pezeshkian told Brennan Iran would now allow U.N. nuclear inspectors into the country.
“That is absolutely correct,” he said.
Brennan pointed out that inspectors from the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency were not given full access when they tried before.
“Will your country allow in weapons inspectors now?” Brennan asked again.
“That is absolutely correct,” he responded again, adding, “If they wish to come in and have inspections, we can reach accords and agreements vis-à-vis that specific topic within the negotiations.”
At the same time, Pezeshkian claims that Iran is not trying to build a nuclear weapon: “Developing nuclear weapons is haram,” he said, using the word forbidden, maintaining that even if some in Iran wanted to build a nuclear weapon, “religiously speaking, they are not allowed to pursue that path.”
Mojtaba Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader
Brennan asked Pezeshkian about his communications with Mojtaba Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, who has not been seen in public since the U.S.-Israeli attack that killed his father, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, earlier this year.
The Iranian president insisted the new supreme leader has “no specific ongoing health issues or challenges,” and said they last met twice, once for over seven hours. He said they were seated “for those many hours” and “changed angles and positions” because they were unaccustomed to being seated for so long.
“From a medical standpoint, he’s completely healthy,” Pezeshkian said, adding that injuries to his face and legs have recovered. “Hear this from me as a physician, and accept it. He has no issues.”
When asked whether Mojtaba Khamenei is advising Pezeshkian on diplomacy, the president explained that there is a team “consisting of six members of various organizations, security forces, parliamentary representatives, government agencies, and they sit and conduct talks, consultations about decision-making processes, and reach any decisions through coordination.”
Brennan said it was notable for the Iranians to be in a country they’re at war with, when they were in shelters only months earlier.
“We were not in a shelter a few months ago,” he said. “How did we manage the country?”
“It’s not as if we were in a shelter,” Pezeshkian added. “If we were in a shelter, nothing would have gotten done.”
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