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新披露的FD-302访谈记录揭示最新细节
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发布时间：2026年9月18日 美国东部时间下午6:07
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任何与前伊利诺伊州州长罗德·布拉戈耶维奇交谈过的人，都可能听到他声称自己从未打算出售前总统巴拉克·奥巴马2008年空出的美国参议院席位，并坚称自己在这起导致他服刑近八年的备受关注的案件中是无辜的。
多年来，布拉戈耶维奇一直表示，他当时正接近达成一项任命丽莎·马迪根出任美国参议员的协议。
这个名字如今已基本淡出公众视野。丑闻发生时，马迪根担任伊利诺伊州总检察长。与本案更相关的是，她是当时权势显赫、根深蒂固的伊利诺伊州众议院议长迈克·马迪根的女儿。
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这位前议长后来因另一起腐败案件入狱。（欢迎来到伊利诺伊州。）布拉戈耶维奇称，他本会任命丽莎出任参议员，以换取其父支持他的医疗保健方案和预算。
2009年12月布拉戈耶维奇州长被捕后不久，当选总统奥巴马及其即将上任的办公厅主任拉姆·伊曼纽尔都接受了联邦调查局的访谈。奥巴马于12月18日接受访谈，即州长被捕九天后。伊曼纽尔于20日接受访谈。这些访谈记录此前一直未在刑事审判中公开，也未向公众披露，直至今日。福克斯新闻获得了这些经过部分编辑的联邦调查局FD-302访谈记录。
奥巴马的访谈记录显示：“奥巴马被问及是否知晓伊曼纽尔曾与布拉戈耶维奇政府就丽莎·马迪根被考虑出任参议员一职以换取相关立法通过一事进行过交谈。
前伊利诺伊州州长罗德·布拉戈耶维奇2025年2月10日在芝加哥家中向媒体发表讲话，此前他获得了唐纳德·特朗普总统的赦免。布拉戈耶维奇2011年因腐败罪名被定罪，被判入狱14年。（斯科特·奥尔森/盖蒂图片社）
“伊曼纽尔当时应当清楚，丽莎·马迪根是奥巴马可以接受的候选人。伊曼纽尔与布拉戈耶维奇政府保持着畅通的沟通渠道。”
伊曼纽尔的访谈记录显示，2008年12月8日，“（大卫）阿克塞尔罗德与伊曼纽尔会见了（伊利诺伊州联邦参议员迪克）德宾，民主党，来自伊利诺伊州。在这次会面中，三人一致认为丽莎·马迪根是合适的候选人。
“此次谈话后，伊曼纽尔联系了（布拉戈耶维奇的办公厅主任约翰）哈里斯，向他说明任命丽莎·马迪根为参议员的好处。”
次日，即2009年12月9日清晨6点刚过，布拉戈耶维奇在芝加哥的家中被捕。
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时任伊利诺伊州北区联邦检察官帕特里克·菲茨杰拉德表示：“布拉戈耶维奇州长是在一场我们只能称之为政治腐败犯罪热潮中被捕的。我们采取行动制止了这场犯罪热潮。”
“这恰恰证明，与马迪根的交易确实是核心议题。我当时正要推进这件事，”布拉戈耶维奇在新披露的访谈内容曝光后表示，“所谓的犯罪热潮不过是美国检察官菲茨杰拉德为了证明在州长家中逮捕在职州长的合理性而编造的借口。”
访谈记录中还有其他值得关注的细节：奥巴马总统最初希望瓦莱丽·贾勒特接替他出任参议员。但他在流程早期改变了主意，决定“希望贾勒特加入他的白宫团队，担任高级顾问”。
然而，“伊曼纽尔仍倾向于让贾勒特出任参议员，而非在白宫工作”。
拉姆·伊曼纽尔2026年7月3日在北达科他州梅多拉举行的西奥多·罗斯福总统图书馆就职活动上发表讲话。（布莱恩·贝德尔/盖蒂图片社，西奥多·罗斯福总统图书馆版权所有）
根据伊曼纽尔的访谈记录，原因是“她是当选总统的挚友，让她进入白宫幕僚团队会显得尴尬”。
“拉姆是个精明、擅长政治、狡猾且极具手腕的政治操盘手，”布拉戈耶维奇补充道，“他当时只是想更接近这位‘国王’。”
根据伊曼纽尔的访谈记录，奥巴马最终态度坚决。
“奥巴马告诉伊曼纽尔，他已做出决定，贾勒特将前往白宫，他不会重新考虑这一决定。”
在此之后，一众熟悉的名字进入了参议员席位的候选人名单：塔米·达克沃斯，以及伊利诺伊州联邦众议员扬·沙科夫斯基，民主党，来自伊利诺伊州，和联邦众议员杰西·杰克逊 Jr.，民主党，来自伊利诺伊州，后者也因另一桩案件入狱。
明尼苏达州欺诈丑闻将在高风险参议院竞选中困扰弗拉纳根，众议院共和党高层警告
伊利诺伊州联邦参议员巴拉克·奥巴马，民主党，在国会图书馆集会上发表讲话。（斯科特·J·费雷尔/《国会季刊》/盖蒂图片社）
当时忙于组建新政府的奥巴马表示，“他不想插手干预”。
尽管如此，他还是派伊曼纽尔向州长办公室传达信息，称“奥巴马希望找到一位他认为能出色代表伊利诺伊州人民、并能在2010年选举中保住该席位的人选”。
布拉戈耶维奇最终任命罗兰·伯里斯填补奥巴马空出的参议院席位。伯里斯并未寻求连任。
2010年，共和党人马克·柯克赢得该席位，并于2016年在竞选中败给塔米·达克沃斯。
布拉戈耶维奇在狱中服刑7年11个月，直至2020年特朗普总统减刑。2025年，他获得了全面赦免。
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福克斯新闻联系了前总统奥巴马和拉姆·伊曼纽尔，但双方均未回应。
迈克尔·托宾于2001年加入福克斯新闻频道，目前担任驻芝加哥通讯员。
Unsealed FBI interviews reveal Obama, Emanuel’s discussions about Blagojevich Senate seat deal
2026-09-18T18:07:39-04:00 / Fox News
Newly obtained FD-302s reveal fresh information
By Michael Tobin Fox News
Published September 18, 2026 6:07pm EDT
Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich among 11 individuals granted clemency by President Trump.
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Anyone who has a conversation with former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is likely to hear his claim that he was never going to sell the U.S. Senate seat vacated by former President Barack Obama in 2008, insisting his innocence in the high-profile case that led to him serving nearly eight years in federal prison.
Blagojevich has repeated for years that he was closing in on a deal to appoint Lisa Madigan to the U.S. Senate.
Hers is a name that has largely dropped out of the public arena. At the time of the scandal, Madigan served as Illinois attorney general. More relevant to this case, she is the daughter of the very powerful and entrenched then-Speaker of the Illinois House Mike Madigan.
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The former speaker has since gone to prison for a separate corruption case. (Welcome to Illinois.) Blagojevich claims he would have appointed Lisa to the Senate in exchange for the father supporting his healthcare package and budget.
Shortly after the arrest of Gov. Blagojevich in December 2009, both President-elect Obama and his incoming chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, were interviewed by the FBI. Obama was interviewed Dec. 18, nine days after the governor was arrested. Emanuel was interviewed on the 20th. The records of those interviews were kept out of both criminal trials and away from the public, until now. Fox News has obtained the partially redacted FBI FD-302s of those interviews.
The Obama interview notes, “Obama was asked whether he was aware of Emanuel having a conversation with the Blagojevich administration regarding Lisa Madigan being considered for the Senate seat in exchange for legislation being passed.
Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich speaks to the press outside his home in Chicago Feb. 10, 2025, after being pardoned by President Donald Trump. Blagojevich was convicted in 2011 on corruption charges and sentenced to 14 years in prison.(Scott Olson/Getty Images)
“Emanuel would have been aware that Lisa Madigan was an acceptable candidate to Obama. Emanuel had an open line of conversation with the Blagojevich administration.”
The Emanuel interview notes that, on Dec. 8, 2008, “(David) Axelrod and Emanuel went to see (U.S. Senator Dick) Durbin, D-Ill. In this meeting, they all agreed that Lisa Madigan would be a good candidate.
“As a result of this conversation, Emanuel contacted (Blagojevich Chief of staff, John) Harris and told him the merits of appointing Lisa Madigan as Senator.”
The next morning, Dec. 9, 2009, just after 6 a.m., Blagojevich was arrested at his home in Chicago.
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Then-U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald said, “Governor Blagojevich was arrested in the middle of what we can only describe as a political corruption crime spree. We acted to stop that crime spree.”
“That just proves the Madigan deal was very much front and center. It was something I was about to do,” Blagojevich said in light of the newly unsealed information. “There never was a crime spree that Mr. Fitzgerald, the U.S. attorney, said he was stopping to justify arresting a sitting governor in his home.”
Other interesting notes from the interviews: President Obama initially wanted Valerie Jarrett to succeed him in the Senate. But he reversed his thinking early in the process, deciding “that he would like Jarrett to join him at the White House as a senior advisor.”
However, “Emanuel was still interested in Jarrett taking the Senate seat rather than working in the White House.”
Rahm Emanuel speaks during the Inaugural Events Of The Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library July 3, 2026, in Medora, N.D.(Bryan Bedder/Getty Images for Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library)
Because, according to the Emanuel interview, “the fact that she is the president-elect’s best friend, having her on the White House staff would be awkward.”
“Rahm’s a crafty, political, crafty, cunning and very effective political operator,” Blagojevich chimed in. “He was interested in being closer to the king.”
Eventually, according to the Emanuel interview, Obama became resolute.
“Obama told Emanuel he made a decision that Jarrett was going to the White House, and he was not going to reconsider this decision.”
After that, a gaggle of familiar names entered the ring for consideration: Tammy Duckworth, and Reps. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., and Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., who also went to prison for a separate case.
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Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. speaks at a Library of Congress rally.(Scott J. Ferrell/Congressional Quarterly/Getty Images)
Then Obama, busy with establishing a new administration, stated, “He did not want to put his thumb on the scale.”
Still, he dispatched Emanuel to communicate with the governor’s office that “Obama was interested in someone who he thought would be a good senator for the people of Illinois and who could also hold the seat in the 2010 election.”
Blagojevich ended up appointing Roland Burris to Obama’s vacated seat. Burris did not run for re-election.
Republican Mark Kirk won the seat in 2010 and was defeated by Tammy Duckworth in 2016.
Blagojevich served 7 years, 11 months in prison until President Trump commuted his sentence in 2020. Blagojevich received a full pardon in 2025.
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Fox News reached out to both former President Obama and Rahm Emanuel. They did not respond.
Michael Tobin joined FOX News Channel (FNC) in 2001 and currently serves as a Chicago-based correspondent.
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