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采访/撰稿： 诺拉·奥唐奈 资深记者；《60分钟》栏目特约通讯员
诺拉·奥唐奈是多次艾美奖得主，担任《60分钟》通讯员兼《CBS晨间新闻》联合主持人。此前，奥唐奈曾担任《CBS晚间新闻》总编辑兼主播超过五年，同时主持CBS新闻大选特别节目。她还主持了CBS新闻播客《与诺拉·奥唐奈共话健康》，聚焦女性健康议题。
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阿莉·莱斯曼作为奥运体操运动员曾站在最高领奖台，经常将身体推向极限。
在退役十年后，莱斯曼正在学习如何在多年过度训练和焦虑之后照料自己的身体。
“我的身体彻底垮掉了，”她在最新一期《与诺拉·奥唐奈共话健康》播客中说道。
如今，莱斯曼正在倡导女性——不仅仅是运动员——优先照顾好自己，即便感到被忽视，也要勇敢说出自己的需求。
倾听身体的重要性
莱斯曼在为顶级体操赛事训练时，每周常有六天要进行长达“六个半小时到七个小时”的训练。当时，莱斯曼的全部重心都放在追求完美和赢得比赛上，几乎没有时间让身体恢复。
“我是个非常在意他人看法的人，”她说，“这是一项主观评分的运动，所以我一直渴望得到认可——从教练、裁判到陌生人，再到亲近的家人。”即便到了今天，她说自己仍然很难先关注自己的需求和感受。
日复一日，莱斯曼不断挑战身体极限以备战奥运会。精疲力竭和倦怠将她吞噬。
“我甚至感觉自己的身体都没有完全恢复过来，”她说。
如今，莱斯曼鼓励人们在身体垮掉之前就优先照顾好自己。
她用一句在网上看到的口头禅来帮助自己不因休息而感到愧疚：“如果你不主动选择休息一天，身体会替你做这个选择。”
“一次都太多了”
回顾#MeToo运动兴起近十年的历程，莱斯曼表示，得知有那么多人能共情她的遭遇，既让她感到被理解，也让她心碎。
她在2017年11月公开披露自己曾遭到美国前体操队医生拉里·纳萨尔的性侵。
但莱斯曼说，她不希望其他人拿自己的经历和她或任何人的经历做比较，尤其是如果这种比较会让他们不敢发声的话。
“无论你经历过什么，如果有人以任何方式伤害过你，一次都太多了，这不是你的错，”她说。
莱斯曼表示，经常有其他性侵幸存者主动找她，“在沉默中煎熬”。
“有人在杂货店拦住我说，‘我50年前遭到过虐待，你是我唯一告诉过的人。’还有人跟着我进卫生间隔间说，‘我曾被虐待，你是我唯一倾诉过的人。’我还遇到过一位男性CEO，他告诉我他年轻时也受过虐待，”她说。
她说，听到其他人的故事给了她继续谈论自己经历的勇气。
“我认为我是世界上少数几个能得到支持的幸存者之一，”她说，“所以我不会把这当成理所当然。”
持续为自己发声
莱斯曼发现，在自己感觉失控的场合为自己发声，会让她感觉更好。她透露自己一直有经期疼痛的问题，而且随着年龄增长，疼痛越来越严重。预约专科医生的等待名单让她感到沮丧，她知道自己并非唯一经历这种情况的女性。
“我发现，在我的生活中，很少有人和我聊起经期时，不会说她们的疼痛也同样难以忍受，”莱斯曼说，“我认为，当我注意到随着年龄增长，疼痛越来越严重时，这真的让我很担心，因为我想要弄清楚我的身体到底出了什么问题。”
她明确表示，这不是医生的错——而是医疗体系的问题。“他们一定已经疲惫不堪、超负荷工作了，”莱斯曼说，“医生的心理健康也极其重要，这也应该被拿来讨论。”
寻求帮助
即便拥有强大的支持系统，莱斯曼说，她有时仍然在寻求帮助和为自己发声方面感到挣扎。
“我已经意识到，在生活中找到可以倾诉和信任的好人是多么重要，”她说。
她鼓励其他人带着“同伴”一起去参加自己感到紧张的场合，比如看医生。
“我妈妈经常陪我一起去各种场合，这我说都说不清有多少次了，”莱斯曼笑着说。
她也曾作为同伴陪伴过其他人，包括一位要植入宫内节育器（IUD）的女性。
“我能感觉到躺在手术台上的那个人非常脆弱，”她说。她问对方是否希望医生暂停操作。
“他们说‘是的’，所以我告诉医生停下来，他照做了，”莱斯曼说，“和我一起的那个人说，‘如果当时你不在，没有站出来，如果没有你为我发声，我会硬撑下去，然后晕倒的。’”
莱斯曼承认，由于自己曾遭受过性侵，对医生开口说话对她来说仍然是一项挑战。
“我认为为自己发声的最佳方式就是多加练习，”她说，“这真的很难，但也要知道，我们这么做的时候，别人不一定会听。”
这就是为什么找到一个支持和鼓励你的社群至关重要，莱斯曼说。
“你不必独自面对这一切，”她说。
如果您或您所爱的人曾遭受性虐待，可拨打全国性侵犯救助热线800-656-4673，或访问RAINN.org获取更多帮助资源。
Olympic gold medalist Aly Raisman on how she learned to advocate for her own health
2026-09-16 7:00 AM EDT / CBS News
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Norah O’Donnell Senior Correspondent; Contributing Correspondent, 60 Minutes
Norah O’Donnell is a multiple Emmy-Award winning “60 Minutes” correspondent and co-host of “CBS Mornings.” Previously, O’Donnell served as the managing editor and anchor of the “CBS Evening News” for more than five years, in addition to anchoring CBS News election specials. O’Donnell is also the host of “Healthful with Norah O’Donnell,” a CBS News podcast focused on women’s health.
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Aly Raisman has competed at the highest levels as an Olympic gymnast, often pushing her body to the limits.
A decade since she last competed, Raisman has been learning to take care of her body after years of overtraining and anxiety.
“My body completely just gave up on me,” she said on the latest episode of “Healthful.”
Now, Raisman is advocating for women, not just athletes, to prioritize taking care of themselves and speaking up for their needs even when they feel ignored.
The importance of listening to your body
When Raisman was training for elite gymnastics competitions, sessions would last up to “six and a half to seven hours” as often as six days a week. At the time, Raisman’s focus was on perfection and winning. There was little time to let her body recover.
“I am a big people pleaser,” she said. “It’s a subjective sport, so I’ve always seeked validation,” from coaches and judges to strangers and close family members. Even today, she said she finds it hard to focus on what she wants and how she feels first.
Day after day, Raisman was testing her physical limits to prepare for the Olympics. Burnout and exhaustion consumed her.
“I don’t even feel like my body has fully recovered,” she said.
Raisman now encourages people to prioritize taking care of their body before it gives up on them.
She uses a mantra she saw online to help her not feel guilty about letting her body rest: “If you do not pick a day to rest, your body will pick it for you.”
“One time is too many”
Reflecting on the nearly 10 years since the #MeToo movement, Raisman said it’s been validating and devastating to learn how many people can relate to her.
She revealed in November 2017 that she was assaulted by former USA Gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar.
But Raisman said she doesn’t want others to compare their experience to her own or anyone else’s, especially if it keeps them from speaking up.
“No matter what you’ve been through, if someone has mistreated you in any capacity, one time is too many, and it’s not your fault,” she said.
Raisman said she is often approached by other survivors who are “suffering in silence.”
“I’ve had people come up to me in the grocery store that have said, ‘I was abused 50 years ago, you’re the only person I’ve ever told.’ I’ve had people you know run into the bathroom stall with me and say, ‘I was abused and you’re the only person I’ve ever told.’ I’ve had a male CEO come up to me and tell me that he was abused when he was younger,” she said.
Hearing from others has given Raisman courage to keep talking about her experience, she said.
“I think that I am one of the few survivors in the world who is supported,” she said. “So I do not take that lightly.”
Keep advocating for yourself
Raisman finds that advocating for herself in situations where she feels out of control makes her feel better. She revealed she’s been having pain with her period, which is only getting worse as she gets older. The waitlist to see a specialist has her frustrated, and she knows she’s not the only woman going through this.
“I find it’s very unusual for me to talk to someone in my life that has their period and for them not to say that their pain is excruciating as well,” Raisman said. “And I think for me, when I start to notice as I get older it’s getting worse, that’s really worrisome for me because I wanna understand what’s going on with my body.”
She makes it clear it’s not the doctor’s fault — it’s the system. “They must be so exhausted and so overworked,” Raisman said. “A doctor’s mental health is extremely important and something that should be talked about as well.”
Asking for help
Even with a strong support system, Raisman said she still struggles with asking for help and advocating for herself at times.
“I have learned the importance of finding good people in my life that I can talk to and I can trust,” she said.
She encourages others to “take a buddy” to something they are nervous about, like a doctor’s appointment.
“I can’t tell you how often my mom comes with me to stuff,” Raisman laughed.
She has also been a buddy for others, including someone who was having an IUD implanted.
“I could tell this person on the table was feeling so vulnerable,” she said. She asked the person if they wanted the doctor to stop.
“They said ‘yes,’ and so I told the doctor to stop, and he did,” Raisman said. “And the person that I was with said, ‘If you weren’t there and you didn’t, if you didn’t advocate for me, I would have pushed through and I would’ve fainted.’”
Raisman acknowledged that speaking up to a doctor can still be a challenge for her because of her abuse.
“I think the best way to advocate for ourselves is to get practice with doing it,” she said. “And it’s really hard, but to also know that when we do that, people aren’t always gonna listen.”
That’s why finding a community that supports and encourages you is critical, Raisman said.
“You don’t have to do it alone,” she said.
If you or a loved one has experienced sexual abuse, there are resources for you to seek help. You can call the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 800-656-4673 or visit RAINN.org for more information.
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