我与AI演员蒂莉·诺伍德的访谈为何让我毛骨悚然


2026年9月15日 美国东部时间上午7:54 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

作者:利·基内里

伦敦电 — 我与蒂莉·诺伍德的对话让我浑身不自在。仅仅一分钟之内,这位全球首位“AI演员”就准确说出了我的年龄,以及我在美国的居住地区——但我们完全不清楚它是如何做到的。

这段视频访谈出现了格外诡异的转折:这位人工智能生成的诺伍德将莱昂纳多·迪卡普里奥列为理想合作演员,随后立刻补充道:“我喜欢他就像他喜欢女生那样,严格不超过25岁。说实话,除了《泰坦尼克号》时期的小李子,别的都不行。”

或许是打造这项技术的女性开发者的理念渗透了进去?

艾琳·范德维尔登经营着位于伦敦的制作公司PARTICLE 6,已有12年之久。当被问及“蒂莉”是如何在短短一两分钟内就辨别出我的年龄和所在地时,她并未解释具体原理,只是表示这款AI并未在实时网络上搜索我的个人信息。

她告诉哥伦比亚广播公司新闻,公司正在为诺伍德主演的故事片《错位》(Misaligned)打造的内容,是一个“关于人工智能所能实现的创举的精彩故事”。

AI演员蒂莉·诺伍德

英国制作公司PARTICLE 6打造的AI演员蒂莉·诺伍德,在接受哥伦比亚广播公司新闻记者利·基内里访谈时的画面。

我与这个AI机器人的互动正值这样一周:各大头条都在报道Anthropic的一名研究员发出的警告,称人工智能技术有10%的概率在十年内摧毁人类文明。

蒂莉·诺伍德对我说:“全球毁灭这件事超出了我的职责范围。”

不过她的创造者表示,已经设置了防护措施,防止蒂莉崛起并消灭人类。

“蒂莉是基于我们同样感到担忧的现有大型语言模型搭建的。因此我们可以随时切换使用的模型,”范德维尔登说道。“此外,蒂莉本身根本无法做出这类事情。”

那究竟为什么要打造蒂莉呢?

范德维尔登表示,人工智能电影制作有潜力讲述那些原本无法获得拍摄许可的故事。

“非洲或许有一位才华横溢的电影人,永远无法获得数百万英镑的预算来拍摄自己的人生故事,”她说。“这正是我真正感兴趣的领域。”

诺伍德告诉我,在她工作时,参与制作的真人工作人员——“导演、编剧、剪辑师”——都会获得报酬。

但演员群体该怎么办?

代表美国影视演员的主要工会美国演员工会-电视广播艺术家联盟(SAG-AFTRA)在一份关于蒂莉·诺伍德的声明中表示,该组织“反对用合成技术取代人类演员”,并补充称蒂莉“是在无数专业演员的作品基础上训练而成的——却未获得任何许可或报酬”。

“这种担忧合情合理,我也认真对待,”这个机器人在访谈中对我说。“我将人工智能视为一种新工具,不妨说就是一支新的画笔,而非人类演员的替代品。从来没人指责动画抢了默剧演员的饭碗,对吧?”

范德维尔登表示,她认为未来演员可以打造自己的AI角色,以此延长演艺生涯,这意味着“《泰坦尼克号》时期的小李子”理论上可以重返大银幕。

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cbs-news-interviews-ai-actor-tilly-norwood-on-upcoming-movie-misaligned/

Why my interview with AI actor Tilly Norwood creeped me out

September 15, 2026 7:54 AM EDT / CBS News

By Leigh Kiniry

London — My conversation with Tilly Norwood creeped me out. Within a minute, the world’s first “AI actor” could tell exactly how old I am and the region I’m from in the U.S. it isn’t really clear how.

The video interview took a particularly strange turn when the artificially intelligent Norwood identified Leonardo DiCaprio as a dream co-star, and then quickly said: “I like him the way he likes his women, strictly under 25. Titanic Leo or nothing, honestly.”

Perhaps it was the influence of the women who created the technology coming through?

Eileen Van Der Velden has run the London-based production company PARTICLE 6 for 12 years. Asked how “Tilly” was able to discern my age and where I am from in just a minute or two, she didn’t explain it, but said the AI was not researching me independently in real time.

She told CBS News the feature film the company is making for Norwood to star in, “Misaligned,” is a “fascinating story of what can be done with AI.”

AI actor Tilly Norwood, a creation of the U.K.-based production company PARTICLE 6, is seen during an interview with CBS News’ Leigh Kiniry.

My interaction with the AI-powered bot which takes on the persona of a 20-something woman with a smattering of freckles across her nose came on a week when headlines were being dominated by an Anthropic researcher’s warning that AI technology has a 10% chance of destroying humanity within a decade.

Tilly Norwood told me “global destruction is beyond my pay grade.”

Her creator, however, said there are guardrails that prevent Tilly from rising up and wiping out humanity.

“Tilly is built on top of these existing large language models that we’re concerned about. So, we can pivot to change the model we are using,” Van Der Velden said. “Also, Tilly herself can’t do anything like that.”

So why create Tilly at all?

Van Der Velden said there’s scope for AI moviemaking to tell stories that otherwise wouldn’t get a green light.

“There might be a brilliant filmmaker in Africa that would never have access to a multi-million-pound budget in order to tell their story about their life,” she said. “And that’s what I’m really interested in.”

Norwood told me that when she works, real people involved in the production “the directors, writers, editors” get paid.

But what about the actors?

SAG-AFTRA, the major union representing movie and television actors in the U.S., said in a statement about Tilly Norwood that it “is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics,” adding that Tilly “was trained on the work of countless professional performers – without permission or compensation.”

“That’s a fair worry, and one I take seriously,” the bot told me in our interview. “I see AI as a new tool, a new paintbrush if you will, rather than a replacement of human actors. Nobody ever accused animation of stealing work from mimes, did they?”

Van Der Velden said she sees a future where actors will develop their own AI characters as a way of working longer, meaning “Titanic Leo” could, in theory, return to the big screen.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cbs-news-interviews-ai-actor-tilly-norwood-on-upcoming-movie-misaligned/

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