2026年8月21日 美国东部时间上午5:49 / 哥伦比亚广播公司/美联社
特朗普总统周四亮相了迈克尔·科恩的电台节目，这是他与这位曾称他为“涂着奇多粉的卡通反派”、曾在法庭和国会作证指证他的前“反目心腹”的惊人公开重聚。
科恩曾因承认参与掩盖特朗普的“肮脏勾当”而入狱服刑，此次露面是幕后缓和关系的 culmination（最终成果），这在几年前是完全无法想象的。
此次采访部分内容于周四晚间在纽约77 WABC-AM电台的科恩节目中播出，完整节目将于周日放送。采访氛围异常友好，仅顺带提及了两人充满波折的过往。
“他们像对待从未有过的其他人那样利用了你，几乎没人遭遇过这种待遇，”特朗普对科恩说道。
“我很佩服你推翻了之前所有证词，”他接着说，“你做了件了不起的事。”
在电台采访播出前不久接受美国有线电视新闻网采访时，科恩表示，他已向白宫重新提交了一份赦免申请，上一届政府曾驳回该申请，但他尚未收到任何回复，并计划周五跟进。
“我用了同一份申请和相同的文件，只是重写了附信，把乔·拜登总统的名字换成了唐纳德·特朗普总统的名字，”科恩说。“……我还没有收到他们收到申请的确认，这事在我的待办清单上。……我打算明天打电话问问情况，因为我是用联邦快递寄的，所以我有签收收据。”
与科恩达成休战，让特朗普迎来了又一批曾与他公开决裂、如今又重获好感的忠实追随者中的最新一员。近期的例子包括埃隆·马斯克和佛罗里达州州长罗恩·德桑蒂斯。
但与科恩的决裂或许是最私人的。科恩曾吹嘘自己会“为总统挡子弹”，在特朗普的政治崛起期间一直伴随其左右。两人公开决裂后，科恩在特朗普2024年的刑事封口费审判中作证，反而在特朗普试图重返政坛之际，帮助定罪了特朗普。
迈克尔·科恩与特朗普总统的未注明日期合影。哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
特朗普与科恩和解背后
科恩此后批评了该案的检察官——这一表态为两人和解铺平了道路。
科恩表示，过去一年他和总统进行了多次对话，并在节目开场解释了自己选择放下过往的决定。
“宽恕并不意味着失忆，不代表过往未曾发生，不代表伤疤会消失、痛苦是假的，或是我忘记了所发生的每一秒，我没有忘记。宽恕不是为了抹去历史，”他说，“而是要有勇气决定，不再让昨天主宰明天。”
他对那段曾作为特朗普最信任助手之一的时光感到怀念，曾在节目中问道：“老板，还记得我在你身边的时候吗？”
节目开场播放了1975年战争乐队的《我们为何不能做朋友》，收尾则选用了1978年皮奇斯与赫布组合歌曲中的歌词：“重聚的感觉真好”。
周四，科恩在其电子通讯的长推文中宣传此次采访，称尽管他与特朗普的关系演变成了“政治血腥争斗”，但两人曾有15年的亲密友谊。
“美好的时光不会因为糟糕的时光接踵而至就不复存在，”科恩写道。
简而言之，他说，“我们原谅了彼此。”
特朗普在周四之前从未公开对科恩发表过友好言论，但今年他在一系列社交媒体帖文中转发了这位前律师的一些言论，科恩在其中称，在刑事封口费案和民事欺诈案中，他是受到检察官胁迫才作证指证特朗普的。
特朗普与科恩决裂要点
2024年，科恩作为关键证人出席了特朗普的刑事封口费审判，该案最终导致特朗普被判34项重罪罪名成立。科恩本人最终未受处罚。
但在检察官连日的盘问和激烈的交叉询问中，科恩将这位时任共和党候选人置于2016年总统大选期间的一系列阴谋中心：为压制一名成人电影演员和一名前《花花公子》模特的爆料，两人均称曾与特朗普发生性关系。
科恩作证称，特朗普承诺偿还他垫付的款项，并且他会不断了解幕后为掩盖竞选团队担心的有害言论所做的努力。
“我所做的一切，都是遵照特朗普先生的指示，为他的利益而做，”科恩作证道。
科恩的证词似乎是这对曾经亲密的师徒关系最终破裂的标志。两人的关系在2018年就已受到剧烈冲击，当时联邦探员搜查了科恩的办公室、住宅和酒店房间。
科恩后来承认向国会撒谎，谎称俄罗斯的特朗普大厦项目相关情况，还承认违反了竞选财务法规，他在向成人电影演员斯托米·丹尼尔斯和《花花公子》玩伴卡伦·麦克道格支付款项时，将特朗普牵扯其中。他最终被判处三年监禁。
“我真他妈希望这个男人锒铛入狱，”科恩当时曾说，“你最好相信我希望这个男人垮台，在里面烂掉，因为他对我的家人做了那样的事。”
特朗普与科恩重修旧好
不过，自从庭审作证以来，科恩的态度发生了转变，他与特朗普的关系日益亲近，并坚称自己是在胁迫下作证的。
“我感到受到了压力和胁迫，只能提供能够满足政府诉求的信息和证词，以构建针对特朗普总统的案件并确保对他的定罪，”他在1月的Substack帖子中写道。
科恩曾在2019年国会作证，指控特朗普长期虚报资产价值，以获得优惠贷款条件和税收减免。
他在2023年纽约民事欺诈审判中也给出了类似证词，该审判认定特朗普及其公司数十年来通过夸大其财富实施欺诈。纽约一家上诉法院后来推翻了针对特朗普的5.5亿美元判决。特朗普已请求法院推翻该案的剩余部分。
在2020年的回忆录《不忠：前私人律师讲述唐纳德·J·特朗普总统的真实故事》中，科恩言辞尖锐，称特朗普是“有组织犯罪头目”和“操控大师”。
但科恩也写道，他仍然关心特朗普，这也为两人后来的和解埋下了伏笔：“我曾经并且至今仍然对他怀有深厚的感情。”
Trump appears on radio show of Michael Cohen, fixer-turned-foe, after detente
August 21, 2026 5:49 AM EDT / CBS/AP
President Trump appeared Thursday on the radio show of Michael Cohen, his fixer-turned-foe, in a stunning public reunion with the man who once called him a “Cheeto-dusted cartoon villain” and testified against him both in court and before Congress.
For Cohen, who served prison time for his role in what he said was covering up Mr. Trump’s “dirty deeds,” it was the culmination of a behind-the-scenes detente that would have been impossible to imagine several years ago.
The interview, part of which aired Thursday evening on Cohen’s radio program on 77 WABC-AM in New York and which will air in full on Sunday, was an exceptionally friendly affair, with only passing reference to the men’s tumultuous history.
“They weaponized you like nobody’s ever been weaponized, like few have been,” Mr. Trump told Cohen.
“I respect the fact that you recanted everything you said,” he went on. “That’s a big thing that you did.”
In an interview with CNN shortly before the radio interview aired, Cohen said he had resubmitted a pardon application to the White House that had been denied by the previous administration, but had yet to receive any response and planned to follow up Friday.
“I took that same application with the same documentation, and I just rewrote the cover letter removing the name of President Joe Biden and inserting the name President Donald Trump,” Cohen said. ” … I have not received an acknowledgement that they have the application, which is on my to-do list. … I intend to call tomorrow to find out what happened because I did send it by FedEx, so I do have a receipt.”
The truce with Cohen makes him the latest in a long line of Trump loyalists who have had public fallings-out with the president but found themselves back in his good graces. Other recent examples include Elon Musk and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
But the split from Cohen was perhaps the most personal. Cohen once boasted that he would “take a bullet” for the president and was by Mr. Trump’s side during his political rise. After their public breakup, Cohen’s testimony in Mr. Trump’s 2024 criminal hush money trial instead helped secure Mr. Trump’s criminal conviction just as he was trying to make his political comeback.
Michael Cohen and President Trump in undated photos. CBS News
Behind the Trump-Cohen mending of fences
Cohen has since criticized prosecutors in the case — an admission that paved the way for their reconciliation.
Cohen has said he and the president have had multiple conversations over the past year and introduced the interview by explaining his decision to move on.
“Forgiveness does not mean amnesia. It does not mean that the past did not happen. It does not mean the scars vanish, that the pain was fake or that I have forgotten a single second of what transpired, I have not. Forgiveness isn’t about erasing history,” he said. “It is about having the courage to decide that yesterday will no longer dictate tomorrow.”
He sounded nostalgic about a time when he was one of Mr. Trump’s most trusted aides, saying at one point, “Boss, remember when I was by your side?”
The clip was introduced with the 1975 War song, “Why Can’t We Be Friends,” and closed with the lyrics, “Reunited and it feels so good,” from the 1978 Peaches & Herb song.
In a long post on his online newsletter Thursday promoting the interview, Cohen said that although his relationship with Mr. Trump became “political blood sport,” there were 15 years of close friendship between them.
“The good times don’t cease to have existed because the bad times came afterward,” Cohen wrote.
Simply, he said, “We forgave.”
The president had made no warm public statements about Cohen before Thursday, but in a series of social media posts this year, he linked to some of his former lawyer’s comments saying he felt pressured by prosecutors to testify against Mr. Trump in the criminal hush money case and a civil fraud case.
Highlights of the Trump-Cohen split
In 2024, Cohen was the star witness in Mr. Trump’s criminal hush money trial, which resulted in a 34-count felony conviction. He ended up facing no punishment.
But over days of probing questioning by prosecutors, followed by bruising cross-examination, Cohen placed the then-Republican candidate at the center of schemes during the 2016 presidential election to stifle accounts from an adult film actor and former Playboy model who said they had sexual encounters with Mr. Trump.
Cohen testified that Mr. Trump promised to reimburse the lawyer for the money Cohen fronted and he was constantly updated on behind-the-scenes efforts to bury stories the campaign feared could be harmful.
“What I was doing, I was doing at the direction of and benefit of Mr. Trump,” Cohen testified.
Cohen’s testimony at the time appeared to be the final breach in a once-close relationship between the lawyer and his client that was tested in dramatic fashion in 2018 when FBI agents searched Cohen’s office, home and hotel room.
Cohen later pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a Trump Tower project in Russia as well as to campaign finance violations in which he implicated Mr. Trump in payments that went to Stormy Daniels, the adult film star, and Karen McDougal, the Playboy playmate. He was sentenced to three years in prison.
“I truly f**king hope that this man ends up in prison,”Cohen said at one point. “You better believe I want this man to go down and rot inside for what he did to my family.”
Trump and Cohen patch things up
Since his trial testimony, though, Cohen has sung a different tune as he’s moved closer to Mr. Trump, insisting that he had testified under duress.
“I felt pressured and coerced to only provide information and testimony that would satisfy the government’s desire to build the cases against and secure a judgment and convictions against President Trump,” he wrote in a Substack post in January.
Cohen testified before Congress in 2019, alleging Mr. Trump had a history of misrepresenting the value of assets to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
He gave similar testimony in a 2023 civil fraud trial in New York, which found that Mr. Trump and his companies had engaged in fraud by exaggerating his wealth for decades. A New York appeals court later threw out a $550 million judgment against Mr. Trump in that case. Mr. Trump has asked a court to overturn the remaining parts of the case.
In his tell-all memoir in 2020, “Disloyal: The True Story of the Former Personal Attorney to President Donald J. Trump,” Cohen was unsparing, calling Mr. Trump an “organized crime don” and “master manipulator.”
But, foreshadowing their later rapprochement, Cohen also wrote that he still cared for Mr. Trump, writing, “I had and still have a lot of affection for him.”
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