2026年8月20日 美国东部时间上午12:10 / 美国有线电视新闻网（CNN）
作者：凯文·利普塔克
首先，迈克尔·科恩曾是唐纳德·特朗普的私人律师，自称“斗牛犬”。
随后他变成了死对头，曝光了他所谓的“肮脏交易”，也因此被这位倍感羞辱的总统骂作“老鼠”。
如今，在和解之后，科恩将拥有一个新身份：寻求公开和解的电台访谈主持人。
特朗普将做客科恩的WABC电台节目进行电话访谈——科恩告诉CNN，访谈时长为40分钟——这将是两人8年多前破裂职业与私人关系后，首次公开对话，访谈将于周四晚间播出。
2018年8月21日，科恩在曼哈顿联邦法院承认八项刑事指控，并在旨在封口曾声称与2016年大选时任总统候选人特朗普有染的女性的付款计划中指认特朗普。
两人的垮台由此开始。科恩入狱服刑后，成为特朗普纽约刑事审判的关键证人。2024年，特朗普因34项篡改商业记录罪名被判有罪，这些罪名与向成人影片演员斯托米·丹尼尔斯支付封口费以掩盖两人所谓过往私情有关。（特朗普否认该私情，未被判处监禁，目前已对定罪提出上诉。）
这场背叛让特朗普深受打击，多年来他一直称曾扬言愿为特朗普挡子弹的科恩为“老鼠”和骗子。
而科恩则毫不掩饰自己认为特朗普及其同伙将他弃之不顾的想法。他是唯一因该封口费计划入狱的人。出狱后的几年里，他撰写了两本书：《不忠》与《复仇》。
然而，特朗普再次入主白宫后，情况开始转变。科恩声称，包括纽约州总检察长莱蒂西亚·詹姆斯和曼哈顿地区检察官阿尔文·布拉格在内的纽约检察官曾施压、胁迫他指证特朗普。
一场与特朗普的悄然和解就此展开。
科恩今年在一档电台节目中表示，这一切始于一位他描述为“白宫友人、内部人士”发来的意外短信，此人转达了总统的口信。
科恩拒绝透露这位内部人士的姓名，但表示此人“向我表达了总统对我再次卷入的困境的真切同情，我对此深表感谢”。
“我回复了他，表达了我真诚的希望，希望我们之间这场漫长又令人精疲力竭的宿怨终于能够了结，更让我意外的是，他几乎立刻回复，称确实是时候见面了，”科恩说道，他补充说自己对这条短信“非常惊讶”。
据一位知情人士透露，过去一年里，两人已在新泽西州贝德明斯特的特朗普高尔夫球场私下会面。
周四的对话将为这场显著的和解画上句号。
“历经多年的背叛、心碎、愤怒与沉默后，曾并肩对抗全世界的两个男人将面对一个不可能的问题：宽恕能否重塑被仇恨摧毁的关系？”科恩在社交媒体上为此次访谈预热时写道。
这张2016年的照片展示了唐纳德·特朗普与迈克尔·科恩在俄亥俄州克利夫兰高地的新精神复兴中心教堂竞选活动期间的合影。
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CNN的卡拉·斯坎内尔对本文亦有贡献。
Donald Trump once called Michael Cohen a ‘rat.’ Now they’re sitting down for a public conversation
2026-08-20 12:10 PM ET / CNN
By Kevin Liptak
First, Michael Cohen was Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and self-described “pit bull.”
Then he became a bitter foe, exposing what he called “dirty deeds” and earning him the level “rat” by a president scorned.
Now, after burying the hatchet, Cohen is set to become something else: a radio interviewer seeking public détente.
Trump’s taped phone interview for Cohen’s WABC program — which Cohen told CNN lasted 40 minutes — will be their first open conversation since the collapse of their professional and personal relationship more than eight years ago when it airs Thursday evening.
It was on August 21, 2018, that Cohen pleaded guilty in Manhattan federal court to eight criminal counts — and implicated Trump — in a payment scheme designed to silence women who claimed affairs with the then-candidate in the 2016 election.
Thus began the two men’s downfall. Cohen, after serving time in prison, would go on to act as the star witness in Trump’s criminal trial in New York. In 2024, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records related to hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, an adult film performer, to keep her quiet about an alleged past tryst with Trump. (Trump, who has denied the affair, was sentenced to no jail time and has appealed the conviction.)
Trump was wounded by the betrayal and for years called Cohen — who once claimed he would take a bullet for Trump — a rat and a liar.
Cohen, meanwhile, made little secret he felt Trump and his associates had left him out to dry. He was the only person to serve prison time for the hush money scheme. He wrote two books in the years after his release: “Disloyal” and “Revenge.”
Once Trump returned to office, however, things began to shift. Cohen claimed New York prosecutors, including New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, had pressured and coerced him into testifying against Trump.
And a quiet reconciliation with Trump got underway.
It started with an unexpected text from someone Cohen has described as a “White House friend and an insider,” who relayed a message from the president, Cohen said on a radio show this year.
Cohen declined to name the insider, but said the person “expressed to me the president’s genuine empathy for the hell that I was being dragged through, yet again, and I deeply appreciated that text.”
“I thanked him, expressed my sincere hope that this long, exhausting feud between the two of us could finally end, and what was, I found, even more interesting is that he replied almost immediately, agreeing that it was actually time for us to meet,” Cohen said, adding he was “very surprised” by the text.
The two men have met in private over the past year at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, New Jersey, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Their conversation Thursday will cap the remarkable rapprochement.
“After years of betrayal, heartbreak, fury, and silence, two men who once stood together against the world face the impossible question: Can forgiveness resurrect what hatred destroyed?” Cohen wrote on social media, previewing his interview.
This 2016 photo shows Donald Trump with Michael Cohen during a campaign stop at the New Spirit Revival Center church in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
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CNN’s Kara Scannell contributed to this report.
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