这位前美国国立卫生研究院官员拒绝回答任何关于功能获得性研究和新冠疫情应对措施的问题
2026年7月29日 美国东部时间下午3:13 / 福克斯新闻
作者:亚历克斯·米勒,福克斯新闻
原本预计参议院将上演肯塔基州共和党参议员兰德·保罗与安东尼·福奇博士之间的交锋,但听证会很快脱轨:福奇援引第五修正案,他的律师被逐出会场,一名参议员情绪失控爆发。
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这场原本被视为兰德·保罗与安东尼·福奇博士之间的智斗——这位议员决心揭开这位前新冠疫情首席发言人在疫情期间的动机——最终在参议院变成了一场一边倒的局面。
多年来,保罗一直试图揭露福奇所谓的资助中国“高风险”研究的角色,共和党人称该研究引发了2020年的新冠大流行。他曾主张福奇应该入狱,并认为前总统乔·拜登对这位前总统首席医疗顾问的赦免不具备法律效力。
但这场备受期待的交锋,因保罗在听证会前公开福奇超过1000页的未编辑日记而进一步升温,最终并未按计划进行。
福奇援引第五修正案
听证会以保罗慷慨激昂的开场陈述拉开帷幕,他指责福奇和美国国立卫生研究院(NIH)多年来资助功能获得性研究,误导国会并销毁记录,称这些行为加剧了公众对美国新冠疫情应对措施的信任危机。
“这种信任的丧失或许是你最具破坏性的政治遗产,”保罗说,“信任不能被强制要求,必须靠行动赢得。没有科学家能凌驾于审查之上,没有政府官员能逃脱问责,也没有公仆能篡改历史版本。”
兰德·保罗在福奇援引超100次第五修正案后寻求藐视国会指控
但福奇在其律师的建议下,拒绝回答保罗或委员会其他成员的任何问题。
他辩称,保罗“明显痴迷于”推动对他的起诉、对他提出指控,并公开他的未编辑日记,目的是“逼我说些什么、任何能印证他多次公开表态的话——用他的话说,就是让我‘锒铛入狱’”。
“尽管此举令我痛苦,因为我尊重立法部门,且我在律师建议下与国会合作已有数十年之久,但我将援引宪法第五修正案赋予我的权利,拒绝回答你的问题,”福奇说。
保罗将福奇的律师逐出会场
福奇援引第五修正案后不久,听证会现场紧张局势升级。
在多次被提问、又多次以宪法权利为由拒绝回答后,保罗宣布作为委员会主席,他将剥夺福奇援引第五修正案的权利。
“阻挠国会调查是违法行为,”保罗说,“你今天拒绝作证,将承担相应后果。”
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随后福奇的律师大卫·舍特勒尔起身提醒保罗,福奇援引第五修正案是其宪法权利。
保罗提醒舍特勒尔,他和福奇的“六名随行律师”均未获得委员会认可。这促使该委员会最高民主党人、密歇根州参议员加里·彼得斯为舍特勒尔争取发言机会。
但保罗不为所动。
“这就是安东尼·福奇想要被铭记的方式——因为一名律师不遵守规则,”保罗说,“这就是你想要被铭记的方式,而你正打算这么做。你未获得委员会认可,先生。安保人员,请将他带离会场。”
莫雷诺:“你他妈以为你是谁?”
听证会大致按原节奏进行——议员提问,福奇援引第五修正案。
但这并未阻止委员会部分成员对他拒不坦率回应感到愤怒。
俄亥俄州共和党参议员伯尼·莫雷诺指出,舍特勒尔是知名律师,曾代表前参议员鲍勃·梅嫩德斯,后者因接受金条和贿赂、利用影响力为埃及政府谋利而被判刑。
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“《华盛顿自由灯塔报》有篇文章讨论了为什么你会雇像大卫·舍特勒尔这样的人,文章评论是,如果你深陷泥潭,就该找这样的人,”莫雷诺说,“你觉得自己现在深陷泥潭了吗?”
福奇再次拒绝回答,这激怒了莫雷诺,他表示福奇在2020年疫情期间对政策的影响力及其给美国人带来的影响,促使他参选参议员。
“六年后的今天,我坐在这里对你说:‘你当时到底以为自己在干什么?你对这个国家做的一切简直是奇耻大辱,’”莫雷诺说。
保罗宣布启动藐视国会投票
听证会接近尾声时,保罗再次提及要追究福奇拒绝回答问题的责任。
保罗宣布,在福奇援引第五修正案反对自证其罪后,他将寻求对福奇提出藐视国会指控,并已安排委员会于下周进行投票。
“我们下周将就藐视国会问题进行投票,”保罗说,“我认为还有一个法律问题需要法院裁决,那就是总统赦免是否能为你提供完全的豁免权。”
安东尼·福奇博士在周三的听证会上援引第五修正案保持沉默超过100次。(奇普·索莫德维拉/盖蒂图片社)
福奇援引第五修正案的次数
福奇未回答任何党派议员的任何问题,始终遵循律师建议,援引第五修正案保护自己免于自证其罪。
听证会开始前,保罗及其团队确信福奇不会尝试援引第五修正案。
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一位知情人士告诉福克斯新闻数字频道,他们对此深信不疑,因此提前准备了多个问题,并告知委员会成员要做好参会准备。
最终,福奇重复了111次相同的表述:“根据律师建议,我谨此拒绝回答,依据是我在宪法第五修正案下享有的权利。”
亚历克斯·米勒是福克斯新闻数字频道记者,报道美国参议院事务。
Top 5 moments from Fauci’s hearing: Paul boots lawyer, Moreno erupts as contempt vote looms
The former NIH official refused to answer any questions about gain-of-function research and COVID-19 pandemic response
July 29, 2026 3:13pm EDT / Fox News
By Alex Miller, Fox News
Dr. Anthony Fauci and Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., were finally set to hash out their feud, but the hearing quickly derailed when Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment, his lawyer was booted, and a senator exploded in frustration.
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What was billed as a battle of wits between Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Dr. Anthony Fauci, with the lawmaker determined to uncover the former COVID-19 explainer-in-chief’s motivations during the pandemic, became a one-sided affair in the Senate.
Paul has for years sought to uncover Fauci’s alleged role in funding “risky” research in China that Republicans say sparked the pandemic in 2020. He has argued that Fauci should be thrown in prison, and that the former chief medical advisor to the president’s pardon from former President Joe Biden wouldn’t hold up.
But the highly anticipated back and forth, which was further stoked by Paul dumping over 1,000 pages of Fauci’s diary online before the hearing, didn’t go exactly as planned.
Fauci invokes the Fifth Amendment
The hearing kicked off with an impassioned opening statement from Paul, who accused Fauci and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) of funding gain-of-function research for years, misleading Congress and destroying records, which he contended created a fracture in public trust over the nation’s COVID-19 response.
“That loss of trust may be your most damaging legacy,” Paul said. “Trust can’t be ordered. It has to be earned. No scientist is above scrutiny. No government official beyond accountability, and no public servant preferred version of history.”
RAND PAUL SEEKS CONTEMPT CHARGES AFTER FAUCI INVOKES FIFTH AMENDMENT MORE THAN 100 TIMES
But Fauci, under guidance from his lawyers, opted against answering any questions from Paul or others on the committee.
He argued that Paul’s “obvious obsession” with pushing for his prosecution, levying allegations against him, and dumping his unredacted diary was designed to “get me to say something, anything, that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end up, in his words, quote, behind bars, unquote.”
“Although it pains me to do so because of the respect I have for the legislative branch of government, and my decades-long record of cooperating with Congress under the advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions,” Fauci said.
Paul tosses out Fauci’s lawyer
It wasn’t long after Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment that tensions flared in the hearing.
After being repeatedly asked questions, and repeatedly turning to his constitutional shield, Paul declared that as chair of the committee, he was denying Fauci’s right to invoke the Fifth Amendment.
“It’s against the law to obstruct an investigation of Congress,” Paul said. “There will be repercussions to your refusal to testify today.”
WATCH: RAND PAUL SAYS THERE’S ONE THING AMERICANS HAVE NEVER HEARD FROM FAUCI
Then Fauci’s lawyer, David Schertler, spoke up to remind Paul it was Fauci’s constitutional right to turn to the Fifth Amendment.
Paul reminded Schertler that neither he, nor the “half dozen” lawyers with Fauci were recognized by the committee. That prompted Sen. Gary Peters, D-Mich., the top Democrat on the panel, to push for Schertler to speak.
But Paul was not having it.
“This is the way Anthony Fauci wants to be remembered — for a lawyer not listening to the rules,” Paul said. “That’s the way you want to be remembered, and that’s what you’re going to do. You are not recognized, sir. Security, please remove him from the room.”
Moreno: ‘Who the f— do you think you are?’
The hearing chugged along at roughly the same pace — lawmakers would ask Fauci a question, then he would invoke the Fifth Amendment.
But that didn’t stop some on the panel from getting frustrated at his lack of forthrightness.
Sen. Bernie Moreno, R-Ohio, noted that Schertler was a well-known lawyer who previously represented former Sen. Bob Menendez, who was sentenced for accepting gold bars and bribes in exchange for using his influence to benefit the Egyptian government.
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“And there’s an article here in the Washington Free Beacon that talks about why you would hire a guy like David Schertler. And the comment is, if you’re in deep s—, that’s who you call,” Moreno said. “Do you feel like you’re in deep s—?”
Fauci again declined to answer, which prompted a frustrated Moreno to tell him that his influence over policy during the pandemic in 2020 and the effect that it had on Americans pushed him to run for the Senate.
“Here I am sitting in front of you six years later saying, ‘Who the f— do you think you were for doing that? It is a total disgrace what you did to this country,’” Moreno said.
Paul announces contempt vote
As the hearing wound down, Paul revisited his threat to hold Fauci accountable for declining to answer questions.
Paul announced that he would seek contempt charges against Fauci after he invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and teed up a vote in committee for next week.
“We’re going to have a vote next week on contempt,” Paul said. “I think there’s another legal question that the courts may have to decide upon, and that is whether or not a presidential pardon offers you complete immunity.”
Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent over 100 times during Wednesday’s hearing.(Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
How many times Fauci invoked the Fifth
Fauci never answered a question from any lawmaker on either side of the aisle, sticking to the advice from his lawyers to invoke the Fifth Amendment to protect himself from self-incrimination.
Before the hearing started, Paul and his staff were confident that Fauci wouldn’t try to invoke the Fifth Amendment.
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So confident, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News Digital, that several questions were prepared ahead of time, and members of the committee were told to come prepared.
In all, Fauci wound up uttering the same phrase 111 times: “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.”
Alex Miller is a writer for Fox News Digital covering the U.S. Senate.