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  • 内塔尼亚胡希望以色列“彻底摆脱美国财政支持”


    2026-05-10T19:00:22-0400 / https://www.cbsnews.com/news/netanyahu-us-israel-iran-60-minutes-transcript/

    美国和伊朗之间的停火协议今日再度遭到疑似伊朗无人机在波斯湾发动袭击的考验,这场已从海湾地区蔓延至黎巴嫩的冲突再度升级,进一步复杂化了白宫达成重启霍尔木兹海峡通航、稳定能源价格协议的努力。

    在局势万分危急之际——且这场战争已进入第11周——我们的CBS新闻同事梅杰·加勒特昨日采访了以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡。这是战争爆发以来内塔尼亚胡首次接受美国广播电视采访。他措辞谨慎,但仔细聆听便能捕捉到这场战争乃至整个地区未来走向的信号。

    梅杰·加勒特: 与伊朗的战争已经结束了吗?如果没有,将由谁决定战争何时结束?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我认为这场战争已经取得了巨大成果,但并未结束,因为伊朗仍有 enriched——需要移除的浓缩铀。仍有——需要拆除的浓缩铀设施。仍有——伊朗支持的代理人武装。仍有他们仍在——研发的弹道导弹。如今,我们已经削弱了其中不少部分。但这些威胁依然存在,还有工作要做。

    梅杰·加勒特: 你设想将高浓缩铀从伊朗移除的具体方式是什么?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 派人进去,把它取出来。

    梅杰·加勒特: 动用什么力量?以色列特种部队,还是美国特种部队?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我不会谈论军事手段,但总统特朗普曾对我说,“我想亲自进去”。我认为从物理层面来说可以做到。这不是问题。如果达成协议,然后派人进去把铀取出来,何乐而不为?这是最佳方案。

    梅杰·加勒特: 如果没有达成协议呢?能否通过武力移除?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 你会问我这些问题。我会避而不答。因为我不会谈论我们的军事——可能性、计划,或任何此类事宜。

    梅杰·加勒特: 我只是想弄清楚,“实现这一目标需要多长时间?”
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我不会给出时间表,但我可以说,这是一项极其重要的任务。

    就在我们与总理会谈的数小时前,以色列袭击了黎巴嫩境内受伊朗支持的真主党恐怖分子。这是对伊朗战争的第二条战线——对以色列而言的重要性远高于美国。

    梅杰·加勒特: 总理先生,有没有可能与伊朗的战争结束了,但与真主党的战争仍在继续?这将是两个——
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 如果我们——
    梅杰·加勒特: ——彼此独立、分歧的战场——
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 嗯,它们本应如此。本应如此。伊朗想要做的就是宣称,“你知道吗,如果我们在这里达成停火,我们也希望在那里实现停火——”
    梅杰·加勒特: 他们确实这么做了。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 没错。
    梅杰·加勒特: 显而易见。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 你知道为什么吗?因为他们希望真主党留在当地,继续折磨黎巴嫩,继续挟持该国人民为人质,并且继续——
    梅杰·加勒特: 你会接受这种情况吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 不。不,我们已经表明——
    梅杰·加勒特: 即便特朗普总统要求你这么做?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 嗯,听着,他理解我的意思。我的意思是,我们——我们想要消除对我们社区、我们城市的威胁。他们一直在用火箭弹袭击我们的城市。他们袭击我们的社区。当然他——你想这样生活吗?
    梅杰·加勒特: 所以这场冲突可能会持续下去?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 是的,但我——
    梅杰·加勒特: 即便伊朗问题得到解决?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我希望——不。如果伊朗——如果这个政权真的被削弱或被推翻,我认为真主党也将终结,哈马斯也将终结,胡塞武装可能也会终结,因为如果伊朗政权垮台,伊朗建立的恐怖代理人网络整个架构都会崩塌。
    梅杰·加勒特: 你认为推翻伊朗政权是有可能的吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我认为无法预测何时会发生。有可能吗?有。有保障吗?没有。

    但据《纽约时报》的调查显示,在战争爆发前几天,内塔尼亚胡曾向总统提交过一份更为乐观的方案。

    梅杰·加勒特: 《纽约时报》的报道如下:“2月11日,在 Situation Room 会议室,内塔尼亚胡先生进行了一番强力游说,称伊朗政权更迭的时机已经成熟,并相信美以联合行动最终能够终结伊斯兰共和国。”这一说法正确吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 不。这实际上是不准确的,因为——
    梅杰·加勒特: 哪些地方不准确?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 不准确之处在于,我并没有说“哦,好吧,我们肯定能做到”之类的话。
    梅杰·加勒特: 在那次谈话的范围内——
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 哦,没错。
    梅杰·加勒特: ——你指出了不确定性?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我不仅指出了。我们双方都同意,你知道,行动中存在不确定性和风险。我记得我们——我说过,他也说过,危险——采取行动存在危险。但不采取行动的危险更大。

    梅杰·加勒特: 《纽约时报》还报道称,内塔尼亚胡及其团队列出了他们认为指向必然胜利的条件,并补充道“该政权将被削弱到无法封锁霍尔木兹海峡”。这一说法在事实上是否不准确?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我认为我们无法精确量化,但我认为——霍尔木兹海峡的问题——随着战事推进,人们已经有所认识。我认为那是——
    梅杰·加勒特: 人们逐渐认识到了?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 人们逐渐认识到了。
    梅杰·加勒特: 一开始就被误读了吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我——我不确定是否被误读。但你知道,伊朗这么做存在——巨大风险。他们花了一段时间才意识到风险有多大,如今他们已经明白了。不,我——我不声称——拥有完美的先见之明,没有人拥有完美的先见之明。伊朗方面也没有。

    同样未被预见的还有伊朗对周边海湾国家军事报复的规模及其造成的破坏。总理告诉我们,会有多少阿拉伯国家有意加强与以色列的联系,这会让我们大吃一惊。

    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我如今看到了我们现有协议扩大和深化的可能性,与阿拉伯国家建立我们此前连做梦都想不到的盟友关系。

    梅杰·加勒特: 海湾君主国日益担忧,它们不会允许也不希望以色列在中东占据战略主导地位。那么这一切是否受到了损害?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我听到了不同的说法。我从阿拉伯国家那里听到了事实,我不会详细说明。
    梅杰·加勒特: 所有国家吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 不。但其中一些国家,我以前从未听过。“让我们加强与以色列的盟友关系”,因为这实际上能威慑伊朗。让我们加强与以色列的盟友关系,因为我们可以与以色列合作实现惊人的成就。

    梅杰·加勒特: 这显然是此次冲突之前的发展轨迹。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 如今的发展比你想象的还要快,尽管我无法——我想这会公开的,虽然你知道,我不能一次性把所有信息都透露给《60分钟》节目或你。但我可以告诉你,在能源、人工智能、量子计算等领域的经济合作程度,以色列在这些领域拥有强大实力。他们如今看到了与我们共享——这些能力成果的可能性。而且这一切正在发生。

    同样正在发生的——或是在本周晚些时候——中国国家主席习近平与特朗普总统的峰会。中国是全球通过霍尔木兹海峡进口原油最多的国家。我们对中国在伊朗问题上的军事介入感到好奇。

    梅杰·加勒特: 我想问问你,你所了解的中国向残存的伊朗政权提供具有实质价值的军事支持一事,是否属实?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 中国提供了一定数量的支持,特别是导弹制造的——某些组件。但我不能说——更多细节了。
    梅杰·加勒特: 这让你感到不安吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 嗯,我不喜欢这样。
    梅杰·加勒特: 因为他们显然现在仍在这么做。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 有可能。有可能。我不想代表中国发言。我也不想——
    梅杰·加勒特: 但你对此有所耳闻——
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: ——为总统发言。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 是的,你知道——但必要时我也会守口如瓶。

    数十年来,美国对以色列的军事援助一直得到两党共识的支持。目前的援助金额为每年38亿美元,而由于公众对以色列以及整体对外援助的态度发生转变,这笔援助如今正受到新的政治审视。

    梅杰·加勒特: 你认为以色列国是否到了重新审视并可能调整与美国的财政关系的时候?也就是说,美国每年向以色列提供的援助。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 绝对是。我已经对特朗普总统说过了。我已经对——我们本国人民说过了。他们都大吃一惊,但我说,“听着。”
    梅杰·加勒特: 你是什么意思?你想说什么?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我想要彻底摆脱美国的财政支持,也就是我们之间军事合作中的财政部分。因为我们收到——我们每年收到38亿美元。而我——我认为我们该摆脱剩余的——军事支持了。
    梅杰·加勒特: 你能给出一个时间表吗?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 我说过,我们现在就可以开始,在未来十年内完成,未来十年,但我希望现在就启动。我不想等到下一届国会。我希望现在就开始。

    深谙美国政治的内塔尼亚胡敏锐地察觉到美国民众对以色列的支持正在下降。根据皮尤研究中心最近的一项调查,60%的美国成年人表示对以色列持负面看法,四年来上升了近20个百分点。

    其中一个重要原因:加沙战争。据哈马斯控制的加沙卫生部统计,已有超过7万人丧生,其中包括平民和哈马斯恐怖分子。

    内塔尼亚胡几乎将以色列的声誉受损完全归咎于社交媒体,他将其称为战争的“第八战线”。

    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 这个,这个是你的,对吧?(举起手机)
    梅杰·加勒特: 嗯哼。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 你也无法幸免。因为你可以侵入这个设备。你可以侵入这个——这个小仪器。你可以对梅杰·加勒特说任何你想说的话。我可以把你描绘成怪物。如果我反复这么说,足够多的人就会相信。
    梅杰·加勒特: 你认为以色列是否有可能在社交媒体这条战线上输掉这场战争?这一点尤其重要,在美国,年轻的共和党和民主党选民通过滚动浏览图片来了解情况。他们会用“野蛮”这样的词来形容加沙和黎巴嫩的局势。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 以色列已经采取了令人难以置信的措施,将无辜平民置于危险之外。

    我们向他们发送了数百万条短信——打了数百万通电话,分发小册子、传单,应有尽有,好吗?

    我们看到美国民众对以色列的支持几乎——我想说,这几乎与社交媒体的几何级增长完全相关。这本身并不是导致支持率下降的原因。我——我不赞成审查他们或任何类似的做法。

    但我要告诉你发生了什么。有几个国家基本上操纵了社交媒体。它们的手段非常高明。而这——这严重损害了我们的形象。

    梅杰·加勒特: 总理先生,你是否认为,以色列在战术或战略上没有任何失误,无论是在加沙还是约旦河西岸,这些失误都以各自的方式导致了外界对以色列的负面印象,无论是在社交媒体上还是其他地方?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 不,当然不是。听着,这是战争。在战争中,军队有时会误击,平民会死亡。这些都是失误,不是故意为之。以色列在媒体战线、宣传战线上受到围攻,我们在宣传战争中表现不佳。

    国际刑事法院——以色列和美国均未承认该法院——指控内塔尼亚胡因以色列在加沙的军事行动犯下战争罪。内塔尼亚胡表示,他尚未实现自己最重要的目标之一:解除哈马斯武装。

    梅杰·加勒特: 接下来怎么办?
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 必须有人解除他们的武装。然后必须有人——使加沙非军事化。我想说,解除武装、非军事化、去极端化,因为你不想让这些狂热分子留在那里。
    梅杰·加勒特: 这是以色列的义务吗?还是说这是国际社会通过和平委员会以某种方式承担的——
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 梅杰,梅杰,找一个愿意这么做的国家。你知道,如果最终落到我们头上,那么我们会(噪音)不得不这么做,但我们会选择行动的时机和环境,因为,你知道,我们还有其他几件事要处理。但我们不会让哈马斯——再次威胁以色列。这件事必须完成。可以用强硬的方式,也可以用温和的方式。我总是倾向于温和的方式,因为与我的——刻板印象不同,我参加过战争,见过——战争的悲剧,我的家人也经历过战争——你不会轻易派年轻人,有时还有年轻女性上战场。

    梅杰·加勒特: 不过,总理先生,有一种印象是,人们认为你渴望冲突。
    总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡: 这很有趣,你知道,因为多年来,我被认为,对吧,在10月7日之前,我被认为可能是以色列历史上最克制的总理。人们认为我——在政治上强硬,但在军事上非常克制。显然,10月7日之后情况变了,因为他们要消灭我们。我不认为这仅仅是哈马斯的袭击。我看到了它的本质,这是伊朗轴心国发动的袭击,试图通过死亡绞索消灭我们。我在战争的第二天就说过,“我们将改变中东。”我们将改变这种他们联合起来对付我们、企图消灭唯一的犹太国家、消灭3500年犹太历史的状况。这不会发生,在我的任期内不会。我对以色列公民说,“在你们的任期内也不会。”

    制作:阿登·法希、安迪·考特、马克·利伯曼和艾琳·莱尔。现场制片:米哈尔·本-加尔。联合制片:简·格里利、梅根·利森、卡西迪·麦克唐纳和乔治亚·罗森伯格。剪辑:彼得·M·伯曼和沃伦·卢斯蒂格。助理编辑:艾莎·克雷斯波。

    Netanyahu wants Israel “to draw down to zero the American financial support”

    2026-05-10T19:00:22-0400 / https://www.cbsnews.com/news/netanyahu-us-israel-iran-60-minutes-transcript/

    The ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran was tested again today by suspected Iranian drone strikes in the Persian Gulf, another spurt of hostilities in a war that has now spread from the Gulf to Lebanon, further complicating White House efforts to close a deal that would reopen the Strait of Hormuz and stabilize energy prices.

    With so much at stake — and as the war stretches into its 11th week — our CBS News colleague Major Garrett spoke yesterday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. This is Netanyahu’s first U.S. broadcast interview since the war began. He was careful with his words, but if you listen closely, you can find signs of where the war, and the region, may be headed.

    Major Garrett: Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn’t, who will decide when it is?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I think it accomplished a great deal, but it’s not over, because there’s still nuclear material, enriched– uranium that has to be taken out of– Iran. There are still– enrichment sites that have to be dismantled. There are still proxies that– Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still– want to produce. Now, we’ve degraded a lot of it. But all that is still there, and there’s work to be done.

    Major Garrett: How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: You go in, and you take it out.

    Major Garrett: With what? Special Forces from Israel, Special Forces from the United States?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Well, I’m not gonna talk about military means, but the pres– what President Trump has said to me, “I want to go in there.” and I think it can be done physically. That’s not the problem. If you have an agreement, and you go in, and you take it out, why not? That’s the best way.

    Major Garrett: What if there isn’t an agreement? Can it be taken out by force?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Well, you’re gonna ask me these questions. I’m gonna dodge them. Because I’m not gonna talk about our military– possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind.

    Major Garrett: And I’m just tryin’ to get at, “How long is it going to take to achieve that aim?”

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I’m not gonna give a timetable to it, but I’m gonna say that’s a terrifically important mission.

    Hours before we sat down with the prime minister, Israel targeted Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. This is the second front in the war with Iran – much more Israel’s than America’s.

    Major Garrett: Is it possible, Mr. Prime Minister, that the war with Iran could end but the war with Hezbollah could continue? That these would be separate–

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: If we–

    Major Garrett: –and divergent battlefields–

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Well, they should be. They should be. B– what Iran would like to do is to say, “No, you know, if we achieve a ceasefire here, we want a ceasefire there–“

    Major Garrett: They do.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Yeah.

    Major Garrett: Clearly.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: You know why? Because they want Hezbollah to stay there and continue to torture Lebanon, continue to hold its people hostage, and continue–

    Major Garrett: Will you accept that?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No. No, we’ve said–

    Major Garrett: Even if President Trump asks you to?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Well, look, he understands what I’m saying. I mean, we are– we want to get rid of that danger to our communities, to our cities. They rocket our cities all the time. They rocket our communities. And of course he– would you want to live like that?

    Major Garrett: So this could go on?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Yeah, but I–

    Major Garrett: Even if Iran is solved?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I hope– I– no. If Iran– if this regime is indeed weakened or possibly toppled, I think it’s the end of Hezbollah, it’s the end of Hamas, it’s probably the end of the Houthis, because the whole scaffolding of the terrorist proxy network that Iran built collapses if the regime in Iran collapses.

    Major Garrett: Do you believe it is possible to topple the Iranian regime?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I think that you can’t predict when that happen. Is it possible? Yes. Is it guaranteed? No.

    But in the days before the war, according to a New York Times investigation, the prime minister presented a more optimistic case to the president.

    Major Garrett: And the New York Times reports as follows. Quote, “In the Situation Room on February 11, Mr. Netanyahu made a hard sell, suggesting that Iran was ripe for regime change and expressing the belief that a joint U.S.-Israeli mission could finally bring an end to the Islamic Republic.” Is that correct?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No. That’s actually incorrect, because–

    Major Garrett: In what ways is it incorrect?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: It’s incorrect in the sense that I said, “Oh, well, it’s guaranteed we can do it,” and so on.

    Major Garrett: In the confines of that conversation–

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Oh, yeah.

    Major Garrett: –you noted the uncertainty?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Not only did I note it. We both agreed, you know, that there was both uncertainty and risk involved. And I remember that we– I said, and he said that the danger– there’s danger in action, in taking action. But there’s greater danger in not taking action.

    Major Garrett: and continuing what the New York Times reported, quote, Mr. Netanyahu and his team outlined conditions they portrayed as pointing to certain victory, adding “the regime would be so weakened that it could not choke off the Strait of Hormuz.” Is that factually incorrect?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I don’t think we could quantify it exactly, but I think that– the– the problem of– the Hormuz Straits was– was understood as the fighting went on. I think that’s–

    Major Garrett: It became understood?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: It became understood.

    Major Garrett: Was it misread at the beginning?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I think– I’m not sure it was misread. But the– you know, there’s a– great risk for Iran to do it. And it took a while for them to understand how big that risk is, which they understand now. No, I– I don’t claim– perfect foresight, and nobody had perfect foresight. Neither did the Iranians.

    Also not foreseen: the degree of Iranian military retribution against neighboring Gulf states and the damage it has caused. The prime minister told us we’d be surprised how many Arab states are interested in strengthening ties with Israel.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I now see the possibility of the expansion and the deepening of the agreements we do have to alliances with Arab states of the kind that we never even dreamed of.

    Major Garrett: There is concern rising among the Gulf monarchies that it will not allow and does not want Israel to exercise strategic dominance over the Middle East. So has any of this been jeopardized?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I’m hearing different things. I’m hearing the fact from Arab countries, which I won’t get into.

    Major Garrett: All of them?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No. But some of them, and I never heard that before. “Let’s strengthen our alliance with Israel,” because that in fact, deters Iran. Let’s strengthen our alliance with Israel because we can do amazing things with Israel.

    Major Garrett: That was clearly the trajectory before this conflict.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: It’s more than you think now in ways that I cannot– I guess will become public, although, you know, I can’t give everything to 60 Minutes or to you in one shot. But I’m telling you that the degree of economic cooperation on energy, on AI, on quantum, the– the areas where Israel is so strong. And they see the possibility now of sharing– the fruits of these capabilities with them. And that’s happening right now.

    Also happening now – or later this week – a summit between Chinese President Xi Jinping and President Trump. China is the world’s largest importer of crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz. We were curious about China’s military involvement with Iran.

    Major Garrett: I’d like to ask you about what you know about China providing materially valuable military support to what remains of the Iranian regime. True?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: China gave certain amount of support and particular components of– missile manufacturing. But I can’t say– more than that.

    Major Garrett: Does that disturb you?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Well, I didn’t like it.

    Major Garrett: ‘Cause it’s apparently doing it right now.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Could be. Could be. I don’t want to speak for China. I don’t want to speak also–

    Major Garrett: But you have eyes and ears on this–

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: –for President.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Yeah, well, you know– but I also have a closed mouth when necessary.

    American military aid to Israel has enjoyed bipartisan consensus for decades. It is now $3.8 billion per year and subject to new political scrutiny because of shifting public attitudes about Israel and foreign aid in general.

    Major Garrett: Do you believe it’s time for the state of Israel to reexamine and possibly reset its financial relationship to the United States? Meaning, what the United States provides to Israel on an annual basis.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Absolutely. And I’ve said this to President Trump. I’ve said it in– to our own people. Their jaws drop, but I said, “Look.”

    Major Garrett: What do you mean? What are you saying?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I want to draw down to zero the American financial support, the financial component of the military cooperation that we have. Because we receive– we receive $3.8 billion a year. And I– I think that it’s time that we weaned ourselves from the remaining– military support.

    Major Garrett: Can you give me a time table?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: I said, let’s start now and do it over the next decade, over the next ten years, but I want to start now. I don’t want to wait for the next Congress. I want to start now.

    Well-versed in American politics, the prime minister is keenly aware of declining support for Israel. According to a recent Pew survey, 60% of U.S. adults reported having an unfavorable view of Israel, up nearly 20 points in four years.

    One of the big reasons: the war in Gaza, where according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, more than 70,000 people have been killed. That includes civilians as well as Hamas terrorists.

    Netanyahu attributes the reputational harm to Israel almost entirely to social media which he calls the eighth front of the war.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: This, this is yours, right? (holds phone)

    Major Garrett: Uh-huh.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: You’re not immune either. Because you can penetrate this machine. You can penetrate this– this little instrument. And you can say about Major Garrett anything you want. And I can paint you as a monster. And if I say it often enough, enough people will believe it.

    Major Garrett: Do you believe Israel is at risk of losing this war on that social media front? And this is particularly, I believe, important in America for younger Americans, Republican and Democrat, scrolling through images. And they would use words like barbaric in Gaza and in Lebanon.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel has gone to unbelievable lengths to get innocent civilians out of harm’s way.

    We text message millions of text messages to them– make millions of phone calls to them, pamphlets, leaflets, you name it, okay?

    We have seen the deterioration of the support for Israel in the United States almost– I would say, it correlates almost 100% with the geometric rise of social media. And that by itself is not what caused it. And I– I don’t believe in, you know, in censoring them or anything.

    But I’ll tell you what happened. We have several countries that basically manipulated social media. And they do it in a clever way. And that’s– that’s something that has hurt us badly.

    Major Garrett: Is it your belief, Mr. Prime Minister, that nothing that Israel has done tactically or strategically has made no mistakes either in Gaza or the West Bank that have in their own way contributed to this negative impression of Israel, whether it’s on social media or someplace else?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No, of course not. Look, it’s war. And in war, armies sometimes miss and civilians die. And these are mistakes, these are not deliberate things that happen. Israel is besieged on the media front, on the propaganda front, and we’ve not done well on the propaganda war

    The International Criminal Court, which neither Israel nor the U.S. recognize, has accused the prime minister of war crimes for Israel’s conduct in Gaza, where he says he has not yet achieved one of his most important goals – disarming Hamas.

    Major Garrett: Now what?

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Somebody has to disarm them. Somebody has to then– demilitarize Gaza. I would say, disarm, demilitarize, deradicalize, because you don’t want these fanatics there.

    Major Garrett: Is that Israel’s obligation? Or is that the international community’s obligation through the Board of Peace in some sort of–

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: Major, Major, find me the countries who would do it. You know, if it comes down to us, then we’ll (NOISE) have to do it, but we’ll choose the time and the circumstances in which to do it because, you know, we’ve got a few other things. But we are not going to let Hamas– ever threaten Israel again. It’ll have to be done. Could be done the hard way, could be done the easy way. I always prefer the easy way, because unlike my– caricature image, having been to war, having seen the– the tragedy of war, having experienced it in my own family– you don’t readily dispatch people, young men and sometimes young women into the battlefield.

    Major Garrett: You know, though, Mr. Prime Minister, there is an impression about you that is a hunger that people perceive in you for conflict.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: That’s funny, you know, because for years, I was considered, right, before the October 7th, I was considered perhaps the most restrained prime minister in Israel’s history. I was conceived as being, you know, politically tough but militarily very restrained. Obviously, it changed on October 7th, because they were gonna annihilate us. I didn’t think it was just an attack by Hamas. I saw it as it was, an attack by the Iran axis to try to annihilate us through a noose of death. And I said in the second day of the war, I said, “We’re going to change the Middle East.” We’re going to change this condition where they’re ganging up on us thinking they’re going to wipe out the one and only Jewish state, wipe out 3,500 years of Jewish history. It’s not gonna happen, not on my watch. And I said to the Israeli citizens, “Not on your watch.”

    Produced by Arden Farhi, Andy Court, Marc Lieberman and Erin Lyall. Field producer, Michal Ben-Gal. Associate producers, Jane Greeley, Meghan Lisson, Cassidy McDonald and Georgia Rosenberg. Edited by Peter M. Berman and Warren Lustig. Assistant editor, Aisha Crespo.

  • 特朗普称美国促成5名囚犯在白俄罗斯协议中获释,感谢卢卡申科


    2026-05-10 17:19 EDT / 福克斯新闻频道

    2021年被捕的萨哈罗夫奖得主记者安杰伊·波乔布特也在此次协议获释人员之列

    作者:格雷格·韦纳 福克斯新闻
    发布时间:2026年5月10日下午5:19 EDT

    唐纳德·特朗普总统周日宣布,在美国外交斡旋下,5名来自波兰和摩尔多瓦的囚犯已从白俄罗斯和俄罗斯的羁押中获释,这是华盛顿与两国谈判中罕见的突破。

    此次获释人员包括波兰记者兼活动人士安杰伊·波乔布特,他的案件引发了国际关注以及欧洲多国领导人的担忧,此次释放也标志着华盛顿与明斯克之间可能开启有限合作,尽管美俄紧张局势仍居高不下,双方广泛分歧依然存在。

    “我们刚刚促成3名波兰人和2名摩尔多瓦人从白俄罗斯和俄罗斯的羁押中获释,”特朗普在Truth Social上发文称。“多亏了我的总统特别代表约翰·科尔,我们得以全力推动此次释放成功。

    “我的朋友、波兰总统卡罗尔·纳夫罗茨基去年9月会见了我,请求我帮助将安杰伊·波乔布特从白俄罗斯监狱中救出,”他继续说道。“如今,波乔布特因我们的努力重获自由。美国为盟友和朋友挺身而出。

    美国国务卿鲁比奥称赞白俄罗斯在押美国公民获释,该国选举争议持续发酵

    白俄罗斯总统亚历山大·卢卡申科与俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京曾在过往会晤中同框,唐纳德·特朗普总统则单独出镜,此次囚犯谈判预示着华盛顿、明斯克与莫斯科之间的动态正在转变。(弗拉基米尔·斯米尔诺夫/法新社;乔纳森·恩斯特/路透社)

    “感谢亚历山大·卢卡申科总统的合作与友谊。这太暖心了!”特朗普补充道。

    波乔布特是波兰报纸《选举报》的通讯员,同时也是白俄罗斯波兰少数族裔的杰出代表,他因一桩被广泛批评为政治迫害的案件被判入狱8年。

    他于2021年因报道白俄罗斯亲民主抗议活动被捕,引发了国际社会的谴责。此后波乔布特被授予萨哈罗夫奖——欧盟最高人权荣誉。

    波兰保守派人士卡罗尔·纳夫罗茨基当选总统,接替杜达

    2025年9月29日,波兰外交部长拉多克·西科尔斯基在魏玛三角集团与乌克兰外长会晤后,于华沙出席联合新闻发布会。(沃伊泰克·拉万斯基/法新社)

    波兰外交部长拉多克·西科尔斯基将波乔布特描述为白俄罗斯自由抗争的象征,同时也是波兰致力于遣返本国公民的例证。

    此次交换是美国参与斡旋的一系列更大规模囚犯释放行动的一部分,反映出特朗普政府任内华盛顿与明斯克关系近期出现缓和。

    波兰外交部发言人表示,此次协议涉及多国安排,3名人员从白俄罗斯被移交至波兰,作为交换有3人被反向遣返,另有其他人通过单独协议获释。

    3名在白俄罗斯被羁押人员中包含1名美国公民

    2023年7月6日,白俄罗斯总统亚历山大·卢卡申科在白俄罗斯明斯克会见外国记者时听取发言。(亚历山大·泽姆利亚尼琴科/美联社)

    据波兰官员透露,此次获释人员包括格热戈日·加维尔——克拉科夫加尔默罗会的罗马天主教修士,以及一名曾为波兰情报机构工作的白俄罗斯国民,但官员并未公开该白俄罗斯公民的身份。

    今年早些时候,白俄罗斯总统亚历山大·卢卡申科根据与华盛顿达成的协议,批准释放250名政治犯,此举促使美国部分解除了对白俄罗斯的制裁。

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    作为俄罗斯的长期盟友,白俄罗斯多年来基本与西方隔绝。卢卡申科已掌权三十余年,因侵犯人权以及在2022年乌克兰入侵事件中允许俄军使用白俄罗斯领土,持续面临制裁。


    本文由美联社供稿。

    格雷格·韦纳是福克斯新闻数字频道突发新闻记者。

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    Trump says US helped secure release of 5 prisoners in Belarus deal, thanks Lukashenko

    2026-05-10 17:19 EDT / Fox News

    Andrzej Poczobut, a Sakharov Prize-winning journalist arrested in 2021, was among those freed in the deal

    By Greg Wehner Fox News

    Published May 10, 2026 5:19pm EDT

    President Donald Trump announced Sunday that five prisoners from Poland and Moldova were released from detention in Belarus and Russia following diplomatic efforts involving the U.S., marking a rare breakthrough in negotiations with the two countries.

    The release includes Polish journalist and activist Andrzej Poczobut, whose case has drawn international attention and concern from European leaders, and signals a potential opening for limited cooperation between Washington and Minsk, even as tensions with Russia remain high and broader disputes persist.

    “We just secured the release of three Polish and two Moldovan prisoners from Belarusian and Russian detention,” Trump said on Truth Social. “Thanks to my Special Presidential Envoy, John Coale, we were able to push hard to make this release happen.

    “My friend, President Karol Nawrocki of Poland, met with me last September and asked me to help secure Andrzej Poczobut from Belarusian prison,” he continued. “Today, Poczobut is free due to our efforts. The United States delivers for our Allies and Friends.

    SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO HAILS RELEASE OF US PRISONER IN BELARUS AS CONTROVERSY HANGS OVER NATION’S ELECTION

    Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin meet during a past engagement, while President Donald Trump is shown separately, as recent prisoner negotiations signal shifting dynamics between Washington, Minsk and Moscow.(Vladimir Smirnov/AFP; Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)

    “Thank you to President Aleksandr Lukashenko for his cooperation and friendship. So nice!” Trump added.

    Poczobut, a correspondent for the Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza and a prominent member of Belarus’ Polish minority, had been serving an eight-year sentence in a case widely criticized as politically motivated.

    He was arrested in 2021 after reporting on pro-democracy protests in Belarus, drawing international condemnation. Poczobut was later awarded the Sakharov Prize, the European Union’s top human rights honor.

    POLISH CONSERVATIVE KAROL NAWROCKI WINS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION TO SUCCEED DUDA

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski addresses a joint press conference in Warsaw on Sept. 29, 2025, following a meeting of the foreign ministers of the Weimar Triangle and Ukraine.(Wojtek Radwanski/AFP)

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski described Poczobut as both a symbol of the fight for freedom in Belarus and an example of Poland’s commitment to securing the return of its citizens.

    The exchange was part of a broader series of prisoner releases negotiated with U.S. involvement, reflecting a recent thaw in relations between Washington and Minsk under Trump.

    A spokesperson for Poland’s Foreign Ministry said the deal involved a multi-country arrangement, with three individuals transferred from Belarus to Poland in exchange for three sent in the opposite direction, alongside others released through separate agreements.

    AMERICAN AMONG 3 DETAINEES RELEASED FROM BELARUS

    Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko listens during a meeting with foreign correspondents in Minsk, Belarus, on July 6, 2023.(Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP)

    Those freed included Grzegorz Gawel, a Roman Catholic friar from the Carmelite order in Krakow, as well as a Belarusian national who had worked with Polish intelligence services, according to Polish officials, who did not publicly identify the individual.

    Earlier this year, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko authorized the release of 250 political prisoners under an agreement with Washington that led to a partial easing of U.S. sanctions.

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    Belarus, a longtime ally of Russia, has remained largely isolated from the West for years. Lukashenko, who has been in power for more than three decades, has faced repeated sanctions over human rights abuses and for allowing Russian forces to use Belarusian territory during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    Greg Wehner is a breaking news reporter for Fox News Digital.

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    伊媒称美国提案“过分” 伊朗不会取悦美国

    2026年5月11日 07:36 / 联合早报

    德黑兰有一幅巨型的特朗普漫画图,漫画配文:“所以我们为伊朗女性争取自由”(左上),“不用视频,你说什么我照做”(右下)。 (法新社)

    伊朗一知情人士说,伊朗不会为了取悦美国而制定计划,只会为了维护伊朗人民的权益而制定计划。伊朗媒体称接受美国提案的过分要求,等于向美国总统特朗普“屈服”。

    伊朗塔斯尼姆通讯社星期一(5月11日)引述这名知情人士说,当特朗普不满意时,“通常反而更好”。特朗普不愿面对现实,这是他屡次败给伊朗的原因。

    特朗普10日在社交媒体上发文说,他刚看了伊朗“那些所谓代表”对美国和平方案的最新回应,特朗普说:“我不满意——完全不可接受。”

    路透社引述伊朗国家媒体报道,伊朗通过巴基斯坦调解方正式提交给美国的最新方案,强调美国必须赔偿伊朗的战争损失,以及伊朗对霍尔木兹海峡的主权。

    伊朗国家媒体指,伊朗接受特朗普的过分要求意味着向他投降。

    伊朗政府运营的英语新闻电视台Press TV也称,伊朗接受美国提案等于向特朗普屈服,并指伊朗已拒绝了美国的提案。

    伊朗媒体10日早前报道,伊朗向巴基斯坦调解方正式提交了对美国旨在结束战争的最新方案的回应。

    伊朗塔斯尼姆通讯社同日报道,知情人士说,伊朗在最新回应中,要求美国财政部外国资产控制办公室在30天内撤销与伊朗石油销售相关的制裁。

    另据《华尔街日报》早前报道,伊朗提议将部分高浓缩铀库存转移给第三国,但拒绝拆除核设施。伊朗半官方通讯社塔斯尼姆通讯社指《华尔街日报》的报道“不属实”。

  • 美媒:一艘美国商船在波斯湾遭伊朗无人机袭击


    2026年5月11日 07:42 / 联合早报

    美国媒体称,一艘美国商船星期天(5月10日)在波斯湾遭到伊朗两架无人机袭击。

    新华社引述福克斯新闻数码网报道,消息人士说,遇袭美国商船被其中一架无人机击中,船上有23名船员,暂无人员受伤报告。

    报道说,遭遇袭击时,这艘船没有装载货物,停泊在卡塔尔多哈港附近。

    英国海上贸易行动办公室10日称,根据收到的报告,一艘货船在卡塔尔首都多哈附近海域行驶时,被一枚不明飞行物击中起火。

    伊朗媒体报道,在卡塔尔附近海域被击中的货船悬挂美国国旗。

    美媒:一艘美国商船在波斯湾遭伊朗无人机袭击

    2026年5月11日 07:42 / 联合早报

    美国媒体称,一艘美国商船星期天(5月10日)在波斯湾遭到伊朗两架无人机袭击。

    新华社引述福克斯新闻数码网报道,消息人士说,遇袭美国商船被其中一架无人机击中,船上有23名船员,暂无人员受伤报告。

    报道说,遭遇袭击时,这艘船没有装载货物,停泊在卡塔尔多哈港附近。

    英国海上贸易行动办公室10日称,根据收到的报告,一艘货船在卡塔尔首都多哈附近海域行驶时,被一枚不明飞行物击中起火。

    伊朗媒体报道,在卡塔尔附近海域被击中的货船悬挂美国国旗。

  • 俄罗斯与乌克兰互相指责违反美国斡旋达成的停火协议


    2026年5月10日 美国东部时间13:44 / 哥伦比亚广播公司/美联社

    周日,俄罗斯与乌克兰互相指责对方违反美国斡旋达成的停火协议,双方均称在过去24小时内的无人机和炮击袭击中出现人员伤亡。

    特朗普总统于周五宣布,俄罗斯和乌克兰将交换1000名战俘,作为为期三天停火协议的一部分,此次停火恰逢周末俄罗斯胜利日纪念活动。

    周日,乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基表示,俄罗斯既未遵守停火协议,“甚至都没有尝试遵守”,并称尽管大规模袭击有所平息,但前线地区并未恢复平静,并承诺乌克兰将对莫斯科的任何侵略行为进行报复。

    “昨天和今天,乌克兰克制未实施远程报复行动,以回应俄罗斯未发动大规模袭击的情况,”泽连斯基在晚间声明中说道,他强调乌克兰如今打击俄罗斯境内纵深目标的能力日益增强。

    “我们将继续以同样的镜像方式回应,如果俄罗斯决定全面恢复战争,我们的回应将迅速且有力。”

    乌克兰东南部扎波罗热地区行政长官伊万·费多罗夫称,过去24小时内,俄罗斯的炮击和无人机袭击造成1人死亡、3人受伤。当地官员表示,乌克兰其他地区的袭击还造成另外16人受伤。

    与此同时,俄罗斯国防部指责基辅方面违反停火协议超过1000次,俄国家媒体援引每日简报报道称。该国防部表示,乌克兰军队袭击了俄罗斯多个地区的民用目标,并对前线的俄军阵地发动了打击。

    俄罗斯军方已“以牙还牙”回应停火违规行为,该国防部称。

    俄罗斯占领的乌克兰赫尔松地区的莫斯科扶植行政长官弗拉基米尔·萨尔多称,乌克兰炮击造成该地区两人受伤。

    特朗普周五曾表示,此次停火可能是这场战争“结束的开端”。俄罗斯和乌克兰此前曾在不同日期宣布过停火,因此此次最新的三天停火的时间线有些模糊。但特朗普称,临时停火将于周六至周一期间暂停军事行动,乌克兰和俄罗斯似乎都同意了这一期限。

    泽连斯基此前曾表示,俄罗斯当局“担心无人机在莫斯科5月9日阅兵期间飞过红场”,他在特朗普发表声明后嘲讽地宣布,红场暂时对乌克兰打击行动“关闭”,以确保俄罗斯阅兵顺利进行。克里姆林宫对此不予理会,称这是一个“愚蠢的笑话”。

    俄罗斯总统助理尤里·乌沙科夫周日表示,他预计美国特使史蒂夫·威特科夫和特朗普的女婿贾里德·库什纳——两人均在结束战争的谈判中发挥主导作用——“很快”将访问莫斯科。

    但他强调,莫斯科不会放弃要求基辅军队从乌克兰东部顿巴斯地区撤军的立场。塔斯社援引国家新闻机构的报道称,乌沙科夫说道:“除非(乌克兰)采取这一步骤,否则我们即使再进行几轮、几十轮谈判,也会被困在原地。”

    此前的停火协议——最近一次是在东正教复活节期间——均未取得任何实际成果,自俄罗斯入侵其邻国四年多以来,莫斯科和基辅之间存在深刻的不信任。美国主导的结束战争的外交努力也基本陷入停滞。

    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-announces-russia-ukraine-3-day-ceasefire/

    Russia and Ukraine accuse each other of violating U.S.-brokered ceasefire

    May 10, 2026 1:44 PM EDT / CBS/AP

    Russia and Ukraine swapped accusations of breaking a U.S.-brokered ceasefire on Sunday, with both sides claiming to have suffered casualties in drone and artillery strikes over the past 24 hours.

    President Trump had announced Friday that Russia and Ukraine would swap 1,000 prisoners as part of a three-day ceasefire, coinciding with the observation of Victory Day in Russia over the weekend.

    On Sunday, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Russia was neither observing the truce nor “even particularly trying to,” adding there had been no calm in front line areas despite a lull in large-scale attacks and pledged that Ukraine would retaliate to any aggression shown by Moscow.

    “Yesterday and today, Ukraine refrained from long-range retaliatory actions in response to the absence of large-scale Russian attacks,” Zelenskyy said in evening statement, stressing Ukraine’s increasing ability to hit targets far inside Russia.

    “We will continue to respond in the same mirrorlike manner, and if the Russians decide to return to full-scale warfare, our response will be immediate and significant.”

    Ivan Fedorov, head of Ukraine’s southeastern Zaporizhzhia region, said one person had been killed and three others had been injured by Russian artillery and drone attacks in the last 24 hours. Another 16 people were also wounded in attacks across other regions of Ukraine, local officials said.

    Russia’s Ministry of Defense, meanwhile, accused Kyiv of committing more than 1,000 ceasefire violations, state media reported, citing a daily briefing. The ministry said Ukrainian forces had attacked civilian targets in several Russian regions and carried out strikes against Russian military positions on the front line.

    Russia’s military had “responded in kind” to the ceasefire violations, the ministry said.

    Two people were injured by Ukrainian shelling in the Russian-occupied part of Ukraine’s Kherson region, the area’s Moscow-installed leader Vladimir Saldo said.

    Mr. Trump had said Friday that the break in fighting could be the “beginning of the end” of the war. Both Russia and Ukraine had previously announced ceasefires on different days, so the timeline of the latest three-day pause was somewhat unclear. But Mr. Trump had said the temporary ceasefire would suspend fighting from Saturday through Monday, terms to which Ukraine and Russia both appeared to agree.

    Zelenskyy, who had said Russian authorities “fear drones may buzz over Red Square” during the May 9 parade in Moscow, followed up on Mr. Trump’s statement by mockingly declaring Red Square temporarily off-limits for Ukrainian strikes to allow the Russian parade to go ahead. The Kremlin shrugged off the comment as a “silly joke.”

    Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said on Sunday he expects U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff and Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner — who have both taken a leading role in negotiations to end the war — to visit Moscow “soon enough.”

    However, he stressed that Moscow would not move from its demand that Kyiv’s troops withdraw from Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region. “Until (Ukraine) takes that step, we can hold several more rounds, dozens of rounds (of negotiations), but we’ll be stuck in the same place,” Ushakov was cited by the state news agency Tass as saying.

    Previous ceasefires, most recently at Orthodox Easter, have failed to produce any tangible results amid deep mistrust between Moscow and Kyiv more than four years after Russia launched its invasion of its neighbor. U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to stop the war have also largely stalled.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-announces-russia-ukraine-3-day-ceasefire/

  • 国际行动捣毁跨大西洋“可卡因高速路”


    2026年5月10日 / 美国东部时间下午1:06 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    一项旨在打击拉丁美洲至欧洲毒品贩运路线的为期一周的行动成功捣毁了执法部门所称的大西洋上的“主要可卡因高速路”。

    欧盟执法机构欧洲刑警组织表示,在4月13日至26日的行动期间,执法人员共查获超过12吨可卡因和约9.5公吨大麻脂,截获8艘船只,总共逮捕54人。

    此次行动由多国执法部门参与,由欧洲刑警组织协调。该机构表示,行动的具体目标是打击那些通过“复杂的海上转运”将可卡因从拉丁美洲部分地区运往欧洲的贩毒网络——这类转运方式避开主要港口,以躲避执法部门的侦测。

    为了定位海上进行秘密转运的船只,执法人员被部署到大西洋沿岸多个地点,重点关注西班牙加那利群岛和葡萄牙亚速尔群岛之间的海域。

    欧洲刑警组织称,在为期两周的行动中,他们的任务是侦测、追踪并截获涉嫌贩毒的船只。今年早些时候,该机构曾预警贩毒网络正在改变跨大西洋可卡因贩运方式,而此次行动的结果也证实了该机构此前的判断。

    “此次行动印证了欧洲刑警组织今年早些时候发现的动向:犯罪团伙越来越多地通过离岸转运来减少在主要港口暴露的风险,”该机构补充说,跨大西洋的毒品运输“如今正以多阶段方式进行”。

    欧洲刑警组织表示,贩毒团伙如今愈发频繁地使用这种被称为“碎片化海上航线”的零散式毒品转运方式,本质上是将风险分摊给所有涉案人员。

    根据该机构的说法,此次行动中收集到的情报帮助执法人员更好地了解了不断演变的贩毒网络的运作方式,尤其是在加那利群岛和亚速尔群岛之间的海域——这片区域因贩毒活动频发,被他们称为“可卡因高速路”。

    欧洲刑警组织行动副执行主任让-菲利普·勒库夫在一份声明中表示:“此次行动表明,犯罪团伙正变得越来越灵活,国际关联性也越来越强。但我们的应对措施也在快速升级。在为期两周的行动中,执法部门对所谓的可卡因高速路造成了沉重打击。”

    勒库夫表示,欧洲刑警组织将利用此次获取的新情报“进一步完善现有情报,以帮助识别并摧毁这些跨大西洋贩毒行动背后的犯罪网络”。

    International operation disrupts “cocaine highway” across the Atlantic Ocean

    May 10, 2026 / 1:06 PM EDT / CBS News

    A weekslong operation to thwart drug trafficking routes from Latin America to Europe has successfully disrupted what authorities called “a major cocaine highway” in the Atlantic Ocean.

    Over 12 tons of cocaine and about 9.5 metric tons of hashish were seized over the course of the operation, which lasted from April 13 to April 26, said Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency. Eight vessels were intercepted and 54 people were arrested overall.

    The mission involved international law enforcement bureaus and was coordinated by Europol. The agency said it aimed to specifically target drug trafficking networks moving cocaine from parts of Latin America to Europe through “complex at-sea transfers,” conceived to evade detection by avoiding major ports.

    In order to locate the boats carrying out these covert transfers at sea, law enforcement agents were deployed to various sites across the Atlantic, focusing on an area between Spain’s Canary Islands and Portugal’s Azores.

    They were tasked with detecting, tracking and intercepting vessels suspected of drug trafficking during the two-week operation, according to Europol. After the agency warned earlier this year that trafficking networks were changing how they moved cocaine across the Atlantic, it said the results of its latest mission essentially reinforced what it already beleived to be true.

    “The recent operation demonstrates the patterns Europol had identified earlier this year: criminal networks are increasingly moving cocaine offshore to reduce exposure to law enforcement at major ports,” the agency said, adding that shipments across the Atlantic “are now moved in multiple stages.”

    Called “fragmented maritime routes,” the piecemeal drug transfers that authorities say traffickers are using more often essentially “fragment” the risks to all those involved, said Europol.

    According to the agency, the intelligence gathered during the recent operation helped authorities gain a better understanding of how the evolving networks work — particularly in the section of ocean between the Canary islands and the Azores known to them as the “cocaine highway” because of the frequent trafficking activity there.

    “Criminal networks are becoming increasingly flexible, and internationally connected. But our response is evolving fast too,” said Jean-Philippe Lecouffe, Europol’s deputy executive director of operations, in a statement. “Over a two-week operational period, law enforcement dealt a significant blow to what is known as the cocaine highway.”

    Lecouffe said Europol will use the new intelligence “to build on the intelligence gathered to help identify and dismantle the criminal networks behind these trans-Atlantic operations.”

  • 美军证实:摩洛哥训练演习期间失踪士兵遗体已被找到


    2026年5月10日 / 美国东部时间下午3:15 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
    作者:艾米莉·梅·查霍尔

    美国陆军周日宣布,一名在摩洛哥参加年度训练演习期间失踪的美国士兵遗体已被找到。

    陆军在一份新闻稿中表示,小肯德里克·拉蒙特·基伊中尉是一周多前在摩洛哥南部海岸靠近德拉角训练区水域失踪的两名美军官兵之一。

    陆军官员表示,针对另一名身份尚未公开的军人的搜救行动将继续进行。据陆军介绍,截至目前的搜救行动已有超过1000名美军和摩洛哥军方及民间人员参与。

    两名官兵当时都在参加“非洲雄狮”年度训练演习,但国防官员此前告诉哥伦比亚广播公司新闻,这起事件据信与该演习无关。一份初步报告显示,两人所在的部队当时外出徒步观赏日落,一名已知不会游泳的士兵落水。国防官员称,第二名失踪士兵跳入水中试图救援,但被海浪冲走。其他士兵曾尝试营救两人,但未能成功。

    小肯德里克·拉蒙特·基伊第一中尉 美国陆军欧洲与非洲司令部

    美国陆军表示,基伊的遗体于当地时间周六上午8:55由摩洛哥军方搜救队找到。据陆军介绍,他被发现时位于海岸沿线,距离两名士兵5月2日落水的地点约1英里。目前尚不清楚基伊是落水士兵还是跳入水中救援的士兵。

    陆军官员表示,当前的搜救行动将以基伊遗体被发现的地点为重点,同时仍在扩大监控范围。

    据陆军介绍,27岁的基伊来自弗吉尼亚州里士满,他曾担任第10陆军航空与导弹防御司令部的防空炮兵军官。

    “基伊践行了服务的最高标准,他是一名无私、鼓舞人心的领导者,对下属及其成长始终不渝的奉献精神在我们的队伍中留下了持久的遗产,”第5-4防空炮兵团指挥官克里斯·库奇中校在声明中说道。

    摩洛哥德拉角训练区 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    据陆军介绍,基伊留下了父母、姐姐和姐夫。他的亲属在官方通报发布前已接到通知。他的遗体已被转运至当地停尸房,目前正计划将其从摩洛哥运回美国。

    第10陆军航空与导弹防御司令部指挥官柯蒂斯·金准将在一份声明中表示,基伊的同事们“悲痛不已”,他们将“继续相互支持”,并与基伊的家人“一同缅怀他的人生与服役经历”。

    陆军表示,基伊于2025年加入其所在营,在牺牲前已担任排长。他所在炮兵团的领导层称他为人友善、无私且富有感染力,并因服役获得了包括陆军嘉奖奖章和陆军服役勋表在内的多项荣誉。

    在2023年参军之前,基伊毕业于北卡罗来纳州卫理公会大学,获得市场营销理学学士学位,同时辅修了国际商务、创业学和工商管理专业。

    克里斯·利夫西对本文亦有贡献。

    Body of soldier who went missing in Morocco during training exercise recovered, U.S. Army says

    May 10, 2026 / 3:15 PM EDT / CBS News

    By Emily Mae Czachor

    The body of an American soldier who went missing while in Morocco for an annual training exercise has been recovered, the U.S. Army announced on Sunday.

    First Lieutenant Lamont Key Jr. was one of two U.S. service members who disappeared just over a week ago in waters off Morocco’s southern coast, near the Cap Draa Training Area, the Army said in a news release.

    Army officials said search operations for the second serviceman, who has not been identified, will continue. Search efforts so far have involved more than 1,000 U.S. and Moroccan military and civil personnel, according to the Army.

    Both service members were taking part in African Lion, an annual training exercise, although defense officials previously told CBS News that the incident was not believed to be related to the event. A preliminary report said the two were part of a group of service members who went on a hike to watch the sunset when a soldier known to not be able to swim fell into the water. Defense officials said the second missing soldier jumped in to attempt a rescue, but was hit by a wave. Other soldiers attempted to rescue the two, but were unsuccessful.

    1st Lt. Kendrick Lamont Key, Jr. U.S. Army Europe and Africa

    Key’s body was recovered by a Moroccan military search team at about 8:55 a.m. Saturday morning local time, the U.S. Army said. He was found along the shoreline, about a mile from where both soldiers vanished into the ocean on May 2, according to the army. It’s not clear if Key was the soldier who fell or the one who reportedly jumped in.

    Army officials said ongoing search efforts will focus on the location where Key’s remains were recovered, while still monitoring a broader perimeter.

    Key, 27, was from Richmond, Virginia, according to the Army. He served as an air defense artillery officer with the 10th Army Air and Missile Defense Command.

    Key “embodied the highest standards of service as a selfless, inspirational leader whose unwavering dedication to his Soldiers and their development leaves an enduring legacy within our ranks,” said Lt. Col. Chris Couch, commander of 5-4 ADAR, in the statement.

    The Cap Draa Training Area in Morocco. CBS News

    He is survived by his parents, his sister and his brother-in-law, according to the Army. His next-of-kin were notified prior to the announcement. His remains were transported to an area morgue, and plans are underway to repatriate them from Morocco to the U.S.

    Brigadier Gen. Curtis King, commanding general of the 10th Army Air and Missile Defense Command, said in a statement that Key’s colleagues were “grieving” and would “continue to support one another” as well as the soldier’s family, “as we honor his life and service.”

    Key joined his battalion in 2025 and had become a platoon leader by the time he died, the Army said. He was described as caring, selfless and inspirational by leadership in his artillery regiment, and had earned various awards for his service, including the Army Achievement Medal and Army Service Ribbon.

    Before joining the military in 2023, Key received a Bachelor of Science in marketing from Methodist University in North Carolina, where he also completed minors in international business, entrepreneurship and business administration, the Army said.

    Chris Livesay contributed to this report.

  • 新闻


    文字记录:救助儿童会主席兼首席执行官詹蒂·苏里亚普托做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目,2026年5月10日
    2026-05-10T12:18:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是2026年5月10日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目中播出的对前救助儿童会主席兼首席执行官詹蒂·苏里亚普托的采访文字记录。


    玛格丽特·布伦南:接下来我们有请詹蒂·苏里亚普托,她是美国救助儿童会主席兼首席执行官,该机构致力于为全球儿童提供人道主义援助和医疗资源。非常高兴你能在这个母亲节来到我们的节目。

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:谢谢你,玛格丽特,也祝你母亲节快乐。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:你刚从苏丹回来,那里是世界上为人父母,尤其是为人母者最艰难的地方之一。教皇利奥称其为一场非人道的悲剧。联合国表示有3400万人急需援助。我知道美国正努力推动人道主义停火,但请和我们说说你在当地的所见所闻。

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:玛格丽特,这确实是全世界最严重的人道主义危机,数百万人急需帮助,而且这或许也是一场需求与关注度最不成正比的危机。我花了整整四天时间才抵达我们在当地资助的第一所学校。因此,将援助送到儿童和母亲手中所面临的后勤和行动障碍,简直难以想象。你必须穿越多个武装团体控制的区域。这真的、真的是最后一公里难题,而且需求规模实在令人震惊。我在世界各地见过不少紧急局势,也去过不少脆弱国家,但这次的情况绝对是最严重的之一。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我知道美国方面称这本质上是一场代理人战争,但从人道主义需求来看,让我感到极为震惊的是性暴力的严重程度。

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:没错。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:据联合国称,性暴力被系统性地用作战争战术。联合国数据显示,有1300万人,其中大部分是妇女和女童,需要针对此类暴力的援助。这个数字是冲突爆发前的四倍。无国界医生表示,这场战争“打在妇女和女童的身上与心上”,同时他们也指责援助团体行动不力。你认为援助团体真的做得不够吗?

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:我们已经尽了全力,但我也认同目前的援助还远远不够。我们根本没有足够的资源。我完全同意你的说法。我在当地听到的情况,不过是冰山一角,已经令人难以置信。我们在当地有约150名同事,我去的达尔富尔地区的同事们全都失去了家园,他们自己也流离失所。他们大多来自法希尔,去年10月那里发生了大量暴力事件。我认识一位同事,她不得不带着16岁的女儿步行逃亡。女儿遭到了威胁,她奋起反抗。我看到了她脸上的伤疤。她拼尽全力保护女儿,让女儿能够活下去、远离危险,最终她成功逃了出来,被人救了下来。这个故事算是有个还算圆满的结局,但绝大多数人都没有这么幸运。我从和我交谈过的妇女眼中就能看到这一点。她们不眠不休地走了好几天,只为保住自己和家人的性命。我到访的达尔富尔北部地区,有70万流离失所者聚集在一片沙漠地带,那里绝大多数家庭都是女性户主家庭。男性要么被杀、要么失踪,要么就加入了作战团体。所以这些女性正拼尽一切,努力让自己和家人活下去。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:目前有大量人道主义援助物资因伊朗局势引发的战争被困在霍尔木兹海峡。这对我们向有需要的人运送物资的能力造成了多大影响?

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:没错,这确实印证了我们的说法:这就是战争代价的又一例证,对吧?战争不仅有人员伤亡的代价,还有经济代价,而经济代价最终也会转化为人员伤亡的代价。目前我们有约50万份物资库存仍滞留在迪拜,无法运出,其中包括药品。正如大家 everywhere 都能听到的那样,运输成本也上涨了。我们用于治疗婴幼儿营养不良的Plumpy’nut营养治疗食品,现在的价格比战前上涨了12%到15%。而且运输时间也变长了,因为我们不得不寻找替代路线,而不是战前的直达航线。所以,没错,情况变得更困难了。我们的供应链团队一直以来都极具创造力和适应性,因为在苏丹境内开展后勤工作本身就极为困难:要获得授权,就连柏油路在西达尔富尔边境附近就只有一小时车程那么一段,之后就全是极其崎岖的土路。所以,哪怕只是把物资运到当地,也要花上好几天,有时甚至几周时间。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们再来谈谈中东问题。白宫方面表示,在加沙实施特朗普总统的20点和平计划方面“取得了巨大进展”。我知道你和其他一些组织都曾指出,加沙停火六个月后,这项计划已经失败。这两种说法对当地局势的描述截然不同。当地到底是什么情况?

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:我们对照20点计划,实实在在地检视了我们在当地的所见所闻。我们结合了自己员工的目击报告、联合国及其他机构的公开数据,逐一评估:暴力事件是否减少了?援助物资和工作人员能否不受限制地通行?我们据此进行了评分,并公布了评估方法,我们坚持自己基于事实得出的结论。我们在加沙有200名员工,他们每天都在开展英勇的工作。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:没错。

    詹蒂·苏里亚普托:我们仍然极难将援助物资运入加沙,也无法让工作人员轮换入境。所以,就目前情况而言,这项计划并没有发挥作用。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:詹蒂·苏里亚普托,感谢你所做的工作。我们马上回来。

    Transcript: Save the Children President and CEO Janti Soeripto on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” May 10, 2026

    2026-05-10T12:18:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with former Save the Children President and CEO Janti Soeripto that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on May 10, 2026.


    MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Janti Soeripto, she is the president and CEO of Save the Children U.S., which works to provide humanitarian aid and health resources to children worldwide. Good to have you here on this Mother’s Day.

    JANTI SOERIPTO: Thank you, Margaret and Happy Mother’s Day.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re just back from Sudan, which is one of the hardest places in the world to be a parent, certainly to be a mother. Pope Leo called it an inhumane tragedy. The UN says 34 million people need urgent assistance. I know the US is trying to work on a humanitarian ceasefire, but tell me what you saw there on the ground.

    JANTI SOERIPTO: Well Margaret, it is truly the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, millions of people in need, and probably also the one that gets the least attention relative to the need. It literally took me four days to actually get from here to see the first school that we are supporting there. So, the level of logistical and operational impediments to actually get support to children and mothers where they are is unbelievably difficult. You have to cross multiple lines of various militant groups. It is truly, truly the last mile and- and the scale of the need is- is really astonishing. I see a lot of emergency situations across the world, I see a lot of fragile states, but this was really right up there.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: I know the U.S. has said this is essentially a proxy fight now, but when you look at the humanitarian need, some of the statistics that were flooring to me here was the degree of sexual violence.

    JANTI SOERIPTO: Yeah.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: It is systematically used as a tactic of war, according to the UN. 13 million people, mostly women and girls, require support, according to the UN, related to that kind of violence. That’s four times higher than before the conflict. Doctors Without Borders said the war is being ‘fought on the backs and bodies of women and girls,’ but they fault aid groups for not doing enough. Do you think aid groups are?

    JANTI SOERIPTO: We’re doing what we can, but I would certainly agree that it is not enough. We simply do not have the resources. And I would agree. What I- what I heard there, and that is just a tiny tip of the iceberg, was completely, you know, unbelievable. Our colleagues there, we have about 150 colleagues in Darfur, which is the area where I was, all of those have lost their home. They are displaced themselves. They have lost their homes. Most of them came from El Fasher, where a lot of the violence occurred last October. I spoke to a colleague of mine who had to walk with her 16-year-old daughter. The daughter was threatened. She fought. I mean, I saw the scars on her face. She fought to- to help her daughter, to keep her daughter alive and safe, and then she did get out and was essentially rescued by- by somebody. So this one had a somewhat happy ending, but so, so many don’t have that, and you see it in the eyes of the women that I spoke to. You know, they walked for days without sleep, just trying to keep themselves and their families alive. Most of the households in the north of Darfur, where I was, where there are 700,000 displaced people in one stretch of desert, the vast majority of those households are women-led households. The men are either- have either been killed or have disappeared or-or have joined the fighting groups. So these women are literally doing everything they can to keep their families and themselves alive.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: There’s a lot of humanitarian aid that’s stuck in that strait of Hormuz right now because of the war in Iran. How significant is the impact on the ability to give goods to those who need it?

    JANTI SOERIPTO: Yeah, it is truly what we say. You know, this is another element of the example of the cost of war, right? There is a human cost. And then there’s the financial costs, which also lead to human costs. We have currently about a half million stocks still stuck in Dubai that we can’t get out, medicine, drugs. Costs of transport have gone up, as you hear everywhere. So, you know, the Plumpy’nut treatment for malnutrition for young infants and children who are minors is now, what is it? 12 to 15% more expensive than it was before- before the war. So- and it takes longer to get there, because we have to find alternative routes in order- you know- versus the direct route we had. So, yes, it makes it harder, and our supply chain teams have already- who have to be incredibly creative and adaptive all the time because the logistics in the country are also incredibly difficult to get authorization, to- I mean, the tarmac road ended an hour after- from the border in western Darfur. So from then on in, it is essentially a very, very rocky road. So to get stuff there, even physically, is- it takes days and sometimes weeks.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Let me ask you about the Middle East. The White House says there is ‘tremendous progress’ on implementing President Trump’s 20-point peace plan in Gaza. I know you and a number of other organizations said, six months into the Gaza ceasefire, the plan is failing. Those are two incredibly different accounts of what’s happening on the ground. What is happening on the ground?

    JANTI SOERIPTO: So we’ve taken the 20-point plan and- and we literally looked at, okay, so what are we seeing on the ground? So we took the data, our own staff accounts of what they were witnessing, publicly available data from the UN and others, to say, okay, so is there less violence? Is there access, unfettered access, for supplies and for staff? And- and we scored them accordingly. We’ve published a methodology, and we stand by those, by those facts as we see them. There is still- we- we have 200 staff in Gaza who do heroic work every day.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

    JANTI SOERIPTO: It is incredibly difficult for us to get supplies in. We cannot get staff in and rotate it so, no that- that plan, as it stands, is- is not working.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Janti Soeripto, thank you for the work you are doing. We’ll be right back.

  • 文字实录:众议员泰德·刘做客《玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目,2026年5月10日


    2026-05-10T12:31:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是加利福尼亚州民主党众议员泰德·刘的采访实录,该采访于2026年5月10日在《玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目中播出。


    玛格丽特·布伦南: 接下来我们连线加利福尼亚州众议员泰德·刘。他是民主党党团会议副主席,同时也是外交事务委员会成员。今天上午他将在洛杉矶参与我们的节目。早上好。

    众议员泰德·刘(加州民主党): 早上好,玛格丽特。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你身处民主党领导层。我们刚刚报道了选区重划的最新进展。考虑到近期的法院判决,你有多担心共和党现在占据了优势?

    众议员刘: 谢谢你的提问,玛格丽特。首先我要祝全美所有母亲母亲节快乐。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 谢谢。

    众议员刘: 关于你的问题,我不同意共和党可能坐拥9个席位优势的说法,因为这个数据是基于上一届任期的,而特朗普阵营已经因为油价飙升、通胀高企彻底土崩瓦解。如果你看看民调数据以及今年和去年的特别选举结果,我们认为共和党可能仅会额外获得3到5个席位的优势。这不足以让他们阻止民主党在今年11月掀起的蓝色浪潮。当法院做出离谱的判决时,比如弗吉尼亚州最高法院的裁决,最好的应对方式就是站起来继续斗争,确保我们在中期选举中获胜。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 但民主党在弗吉尼亚州投入了超过6000万美元用于选区重划斗争。这些资金是不是更应该花在那些一线候选人身上,或是用来围绕议题展开宣传?

    众议员刘: 弗吉尼亚州最高法院的所作所为不仅错误,而且可耻。他们基本上是在说:“弗吉尼亚州,你们花了所有纳税人的钱举办选举,做了所有该做的事,哦,对了,开玩笑的,那场选举不算数。” 法院本可以一开始就叫停这场选举,他们欺骗了弗吉尼亚州的民众,这完全是一场丑闻。现在,民主党在这场竞选中投入的大部分资金都是(c)(4)类资金,也就是我们不需要用于中期选举的非直接硬资金。但因为这场可耻的闹剧,浪费的是纳税人的钱——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: ——你认为这笔钱花得值吗?——你认为这场财务投入是值得的。我的意思是,民主党会继续在法庭上抗争到底吗?

    众议员刘: 我们会审视所有可行的选项。我们肯定会继续为这场战斗而努力。我还要再次强调,如果有人把你打倒在地,最好的办法就是立刻爬起来反击。我们也会这么做。在弗吉尼亚州的这四个席位中,我们相信会在中期选举中拿下其中两个,这就是我们正在做的事:反击。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,所以你仍然相信民主党能够夺回众议院?你们的核心信息是什么?

    众议员刘: 我们会夺回众议院——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: ——围绕什么信息?

    众议员刘: 美国民众投票给唐纳德·特朗普是因为他们想要降低生活成本,但他欺骗了他们。现在通胀高企、油价飙升。特朗普的关税政策推高了美国众多商品的成本。民众深陷债务和账单的泥潭,而民主党会降低医疗保健成本、全面降低开支、减少你的能源成本。这就是我们的宣传信息——

    玛格丽特·布伦南: ——你们打算如何做到这一点?民主党曾为了医保议题而迫使政府停摆,但没有获得任何政策让步,而且保费还上涨了。你们输掉了那场斗争。

    众议员刘: 实际上,我们已经在众议院通过了将《平价医疗法案》税收抵免延长三年的法案。我们敦促参议院也通过这项立法。当民主党重新掌控国会时,我们将推翻特朗普和共和党去年实施的大规模医疗补助削减、医保削减以及《平价医疗法案》相关削减措施。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 让我问问你在外交事务委员会的相关立场。鲁比奥国务卿表示,特朗普总统本周访华会见习近平期间可能会讨论台湾问题。这是一场极其重要的峰会。周五,台湾议会通过了250亿美元的经费用于采购更多美国武器。你目前基本支持特朗普政府加强台湾防务的意愿吗?

    众议员刘: 民主党和共和党政府一直以来都秉持完全相同的政策,即维持当前的现状,努力阻止中国在印太地区做出任何愚蠢举动,包括军事冲突。我想强调的是,伊朗战争表明我们需要在印太地区制定全新的战略,因为一旦与中国或俄罗斯发生长期冲突,美国的防御弹药将会耗尽。在一场持续不到60天的战争中,我们就已经开始出现防御弹药短缺的情况,即便对手是伊朗这样的二流军事力量,他们也袭击了多个美军基地。因此,在任何海外冲突中,我们的海外基地都会被俄罗斯和中国摧毁。我们需要新的国防战略,我呼吁五角大楼向国会提交这份战略。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 那么,特朗普总统曾承诺向台湾出售创纪录规模的武器。你是说美国实际上无法兑现这些承诺,因为库存太过匮乏,工业产能无法跟上吗?

    众议员刘: 完全正确。如果与俄罗斯和中国发生长期冲突,我们的防御弹药不足以支撑我们的作战需求。即便是在针对伊朗的不到60天的战争中,我们就已经开始出现防御弹药短缺的情况。部分问题在于,部分导弹的生产周期很长。我们每年仅能生产96枚这类防御导弹,这远远不够。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 我想问问你关于人工智能的问题。《纽约时报》报道称,特朗普总统正在考虑一项行政命令,对新型人工智能模型实施政府监管。我知道你有关于音频缺口的相关立法。

    众议员刘: 首先我想说,作为一名曾就读计算机科学专业的人士,我认为人工智能行业放任自流是非常糟糕的,我们需要合理的监管护栏。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,明白了——

    众议员刘: 你能听到我说话吗?

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 抱歉,我想我们的信号——是的,我想我们俩都出现了音频问题,众议员。不过我要先去插播广告了。谢谢你。

    Transcript: Rep. Ted Lieu on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” May 10, 2026

    2026-05-10T12:31:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Rep. Ted Lieu, Democrat of California, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on May 10, 2026.


    MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to California Congressman Ted Lieu. He is the vice chair of the Democratic Caucus and a member of the foreign affairs committee. He joins us this morning from Los Angeles. Good morning to you.

    REP. TED LIEU (D-CA): Good morning, Margaret.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you are in Democratic leadership. You just heard us lay out what’s going on with redistricting. How concerned are you that Republicans now hold the advantage given the recent court decisions.

    REP. LIEU: Thank you, Margaret, for that question. Let me just first say Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers across America.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Thank you.

    REP. LIEU: Regarding your question, I would disagree that Republicans may have a nice- nine seat advantage, because that’s based on data from last term, and the Trump coalition has completely collapsed because of skyrocketing gas prices, surging inflation. And if you look at the polling data and the results we’ve had in special elections this year as well as last year, we think the Republicans may have an advantage of anywhere between three to five additional seats. That is not enough for them to stop a democratic blue wave coming this November. And the best thing to do when a court does something outlandish, like the Virginia Supreme Court is to get back up and fight and make sure we win in the midterms.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But that Virginia push by Democrats, you spent more than $60 million on that redistricting effort. Wouldn’t those funds have been better spent on those front line candidates and arguing on the issues?

    REP. LIEU: So what the Virginia Supreme Court did was not only wrong, it was disgraceful. They basically said, hey, Virginia, spend all this taxpayers’ money holding an election, do all this stuff and, oh, by the way, just kidding, that election didn’t count. The court could have stopped this by not having the election in the first place. They suckered the people of Virginia. It was a complete disgrace. Now, most of the money that Democrats spend in the race is called (c)(4) money, so that’s not direct, hard money that we’re going to need for races in the midterms. But it was taxpayers money that was wasted because of the disgraceful–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –You think it was worth–, you think it was worth the financial cost. I mean, are Democrats going to somehow continue to fight this in court?

    REP. LIEU: We’re going to look at all available options. We’re definitely going to try to keep fighting this battle. And I just want to note the best way again, if someone shoves you down, is to get right back up and fight back. And that’s what we’re going to do. And of these four seats in Virginia, we believe we’re going to win two of them in the midterms, and that’s what we’re doing. We’re fighting back.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so you still believe that Democrats can retake the House? What is your main message?

    REP. LIEU: We will take the House–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –On what message?

    REP. LIEU: The American people voted in Donald Trump because they wanted lower costs and he lied to them. We have surging inflation, skyroti- skyrocketing gas prices. The Trump tariffs have raised costs across many products across America. People are drowning in debt and in bills, and Democrats are going to reduce health care costs, lower costs across the board, reduce your energy costs. That’s the message we’re–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –How are you going to do that? Democrats shut down the government to have an argument over health care, and they didn’t get any policy concessions, and premiums went up. You lost that fight.

    REP. LIEU: Well, actually, we passed through the house an extension of ACA tax credits for three years. We urged the Senate to pass that legislation as well, Democrats, when we get control, we’re going to reverse the massive Medicaid cuts, the Medicare cuts and the cuts to ACA that Trump and Republicans put in last year.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Let me ask you about your position on the foreign affairs committee. Secretary Rubio said Taiwan will likely be discussed during President Trump’s visit to China this week to meet with Xi Jinping. This is a hugely consequential summit. On Friday, Taiwan’s Parliament approved $25 billion in funds to buy more American weapons. Are you largely supportive at this point of the Trump administration’s willingness to strengthen Taiwan’s defense?

    REP. LIEU: Both Democratic and Republican administrations have had the exact same policy, which is to preserve the current status quo, and we’re trying to keep China from doing anything stupid in the Indo-Pacific, including a military conflict. And I just want to emphasize that the Iran war has shown that we need a brand new strategy in the Indo-Pacific, because in any prolonged conflict with China or Russia, the U.S. will run out of defensive munitions. We already started running out of defensive munitions in a war that lasted less than 60 days, and even against a second rate military like Iran, they struck multiple U.S. bases. So in any overseas conflict, our overseas bases will be obliterated by Russia and China. We need a new defense strategy, and I call on the Pentagon to deliver that to Congress.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, President Trump has made these record large promises of arms sales to Taiwan. Are you saying that America actually can’t deliver on them because the stockpiles are so depleted and the industrial base can’t deliver?

    REP. LIEU: That’s absolutely correct. We don’t have enough defensive munitions in any prolonged conflict with Russia and China that will sustain what we need to do. We could even do this in Iran of a war of less than 60 days. We started to run low on defensive munitions, and part of the problem is some of these missiles, for example, take a long time to make. We basically make 96 of some of these defensive missiles a year. That’s just not enough.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about AI The Times report– The New York Times reported that President Trump is considering an executive order that would implement some government oversight over new AI models. I know you have legislation on audio gap.

    REP. LIEU: I just want to first say, as a recovering computer science major, I think it is horrible for the AI industry to run wild, we need to have reasonable guardrails.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yep, okay–

    REP. LIEU: Can you hear me?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Sorry, I think we’re having- yeah, I think we’re both having audio issues there, Congressman. But I’m going to go to commercial break here. Thank you.

  • 文字实录:斯科特·戈特利布做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对全国》节目,2026年5月10日


    2026-05-10T12:44:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是前美国食品药品监督管理局局长斯科特·戈特利布的采访实录,他目前担任辉瑞公司和联合健康集团的董事,采访于2026年5月10日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对全国》节目中播出。

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    玛格丽特·布伦南: 欢迎回到《面对全国》。汉坦病毒疫情邮轮的乘客于今天上午抵达西班牙加那利群岛,他们通过小型接驳船被转运上岸,随后接受症状检查,再搭乘疏散航班离开。船上共有近150名乘客,其中17名是美国人,他们将被送往内布拉斯加州的隔离点。目前尚无任何人出现症状。现在我们连线前FDA局长斯科特·戈特利布医生,他同时任职于辉瑞和联合健康集团的董事会。医生,欢迎再次做客。

    斯科特·戈特利布医生: 谢谢。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 目前已有3起与此次疫情相关的死亡病例。美国国内有六个州正在监测潜在暴露人群,这些病例均与该邮轮或船上乘客搭乘的航班有关,包括那17名美国乘客。你是否同意美国疾控中心和世界卫生组织的观点,即此次公共卫生风险较低?

    斯科特·戈特利布医生: 是的,我同意。我们必须承认,我们对这种病毒仍有许多未知之处。我们过去很少需要应对这类大规模疫情。阿根廷曾出现过两起大规模暴发,但根据那次经验,我们了解到这种病毒通常需要密切接触才会传播。我们还知道,感染者在出现症状前通常不具有传染性,也就是我们所说的前驱期,此时他们开始出现症状发作。从症状出现到病情恶化乃至死亡的过程通常仅为数天。这种病毒传播性极强,因此根据现有信息,传播风险较低。话虽如此,回顾过去的疫情经验,也存在一些极端案例,看似在并非密切接触的人群之间发生了传播。因此我们需要仔细审视过往的这些案例,保持警惕,或许我们对这种病毒的了解还不够全面。我想说的是,对于我们美国国内正在接回的这批乘客来说,传播窗口期即将结束。上次该邮轮上的死亡病例发生在5月2日,该患者的症状出现于4月28日。如果潜伏期约为2至6周,那么他们将在本周达到潜伏期的峰值。所以我认为,再过两周左右,我们就能知晓此次邮轮疫情是否会引发更多后续病例。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 这是一个关键节点。世卫组织明确表示,此次疫情并非新冠疫情的重演,但正如你所知,这引发了一些与疫情期间同样的怀疑论者的质疑,他们当时就对美国政府机构和防疫应对措施提出了质疑。世卫组织称,目前没有研究表明伊维菌素对该病毒有效,但我想听听你如何看待呼吁使用替代疗法以及抵制政府卫生建议的声音?

    斯科特·戈特利布医生: 听着,我们将在很长一段时间内反复讨论新冠疫情带来的后果。我认为,目前许多身处公共卫生岗位的人认为,他们的任期和这些职位任命在某种程度上是对新冠疫情应对措施的一次公投。这一点也体现在他们的公开言论中。此次疫情不同于新冠,它不会像新冠病毒那样像大流行病毒一样传播,它的传播效率要低得多。目前尚无针对该病毒的有效治疗方法。伊维菌素显然不是有效的治疗药物。仅从其作用机制来看,它就无法对抗这种病毒。它只能阻止细胞核内的病毒复制,而非细胞质内的。如果这种病毒是在细胞质内复制,那么伊维菌素就完全不起作用。因此我建议人们不要使用该药物。我知道社交媒体上有一些言论建议人们囤积伊维菌素。我们目前没有针对汉坦病毒的有效治疗方法,这也是此次疫情极具威胁性的原因所在。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 确实如此,我们将持续追踪相关情况。你在特朗普政府第一任期内担任FDA局长。现任该职位的人士,也就是马蒂·马卡里博士,曾做客过本节目。他在特朗普和拜登执政期间都对新冠防疫措施提出过尖锐批评。目前有大量报道称,他目前的职位面临被解雇的风险。考虑到FDA的重要性——据我所知,该机构监管着美国五分之一的消费支出——失去其负责人将会造成多大的损害?是否有人能够迅速接任?

    斯科特·戈特利布医生: 我暂时想不出合适的人选,有报道称有几位候选人可以临时担任该职位。马蒂是我的朋友,你知道,这是一份非常棘手的工作。正如你所说,它监管着约20%的美国经济,涉及对人们生活至关重要的产品,包括医疗产品、食品和食品安全。因此,FDA做出的决策往往会引发大量争议和担忧。无论谁担任这一职位,都会面临争议,包括我自己。我在任期间做出的决策也曾遭到批评。我认为,FDA持续的动荡已经对该机构造成了损害,不仅是关于马蒂前途的猜测,还有我们看到的该机构人员流失。该机构已经流失了数千名医疗审评员,其中一些是通过“预算削减法案”(DOGE cuts)自愿离职,另一些则是被迫离职,还有一些是主动辞职。该机构出现了大量人员自愿离职的情况。以肿瘤学分部为例,本届政府初期有大约100名医疗审评员,现在只剩下约50名。负责审评白血病和淋巴瘤药物的血液学小组原本有21名医疗审评员,现在只剩6名。他们整个乳腺癌审评团队都被解散了。因此该机构流失了大量人员。我们看到政治任命人员接管了原本应由职业人士担任的领导职位,掌管医疗产品中心、药品中心和生物制品中心。所以我认为,这些因素累积起来已经对该机构造成了冲击,而我们上周五看到的这些持续猜测,我认为只会让情况进一步恶化。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 你列举的这些数据令人震惊。我想问问你关于该机构现任领导层的情况。卫生与公众服务部部长罗伯特·F·肯尼迪近日谈到了美国国内抗抑郁药物的使用情况。近17%的美国人在服用抗抑郁药,他表示这类药物存在过度处方的问题,并将自己戒除海洛因的戒断经历与一名家庭成员停用SSRIs类抗抑郁药的经历进行了对比。我们来听一下他的发言。

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    美国卫生与公众服务部部长罗伯特·F·肯尼迪: 我亲眼目睹一名家庭成员在服用这类药物数年后停药,她当时出现了自杀倾向。几乎每天都是如此。她每天早上醒来都会说,我不想活了。她还说:“我能撑下来唯一的原因就是你们,为了这个家。”

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    玛格丽特·布伦南: 他后来补充说,他并不是建议人们在服用这类药物时直接停药。但你如何看待他将抗抑郁药描述为具有风险的言论?

    斯科特·戈特利布医生: 听着,这类药物大多在基层医疗环境中开具。就像在该环境中开具的任何药物一样,我相信确实存在一些边缘性的处方情况,也就是个别孤立的不合理处方情况。但对于大多数服用这类药物的美国人来说,它们非常重要,在某些情况下甚至可以挽救生命。我建议所有根据部长的言论考虑停药的人,务必咨询他们的医生。患者需要一段时间来逐步减量停药。如果他们愿意,完全可以成功停药,并且可以找到其他有效的心理健康治疗方案。但任何人都不应在没有医疗专业人员指导的情况下直接停药。我担心部长的言论会像他之前关于对乙酰氨基酚的言论一样,打击人们对这类药物的合理使用。此前他关于孕期使用对乙酰氨基酚的言论,导致许多女性即使在需要镇痛和退热的合适情况下也不再使用该药物,而这对某些孕妇来说可能至关重要。我们看到当时有很多女性放弃了这类药物的使用,包括合理的使用。我担心这里也会出现同样的情况。很明显,部长希望降低抗抑郁药的处方量,他也试图通过监管措施来实现这一目标。因此这确实令人担忧。

    玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,戈特利布医生,我们今天的节目就要到此为止了。我希望以后能请你回来谈谈电子烟的话题,但由于时间限制,今天只能先到这里。非常感谢你的分析。我们稍后很快回来。

    Transcript: Scott Gottlieb on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” May 10, 2026

    2026-05-10T12:44:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is on the boards of Pfizer and UnitedHealthCare, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on May 10, 2026.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to Face The Nation. Passengers from the Hantavirus stricken cruise ship arrived this morning in Spain’s Canary Islands, where they were ferried onto land by small launch boats, then checked for symptoms before being flown on evacuation flights. Close to 150 people on-board the ship, and among them, 17 of them Americans. They’re going to be flown to a quarantine unit in Nebraska. No one so far is showing symptoms. For more now we turn to former FDA commissioner, Dr. Scott Gottlieb. He also serves on the boards of Pfizer and United Healthcare. Welcome back, doctor.

    DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Thank you.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So there have been three deaths linked to the outbreak. Here in the US, there are six states monitoring potential exposure, all either linked to the ship itself or flights of people who have been on the ship, and then those 17 Americans. Do you agree with the CDC and the World Health Organization that the risk to public health is low?

    DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Yeah, I do agree with that. We have to concede that there’s still things we don’t know about this virus. We haven’t had to grapple with many outbreaks in the past. There’s been two large outbreaks in Argentina, but based on that experience, what we know is that typically for transmission, you have to have close contact. We also know that people typically aren’t contagious unless they’re showing signs of the infection itself, in what we call the prodromal phase, where they start to have an onset of symptoms. And the progression from that onset of symptoms to severe disease, and in these cases, death, is typically just days. This is a very aggressive virus, and so based on what we know, the transmission risk is low. Now, that said, when you look back at the past experience, there are these outlier cases where there appears to have been transmission among people who weren’t perceived to be in close contact. And so there are these cases that we need to look at closely from the past experience and just be wary that, perhaps there’s things we don’t know fully about this virus. I will say that we are nearing the end of the transmission window for the people who are being repatriated here in the US. And so, it looks to me like the last death on that cruise ship was May 2. That patient had an onset of symptoms on April 28. If you believe that the incubation period is about two to six weeks, they’ll be at the peak of that incubation cycle, some point this week. So I think we’re about two weeks away from knowing whether or not there will be additional cases that come from that initial outbreak on the cruise ship.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So a key moment here, I mean, the WHO said it’s very clear this is not COVID all over again, but as you know, it has ignited some of the very same skeptics who during the pandemic, really questioned our government institutions and the response. The WHO has said, there is no research that ivermectin is an effective treatment for the virus, but I’m wondering what you make of these calls for alternative treatments and resistance of government health advice?

    DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Look, I think we’re going to be relitigating the consequences of COVID for a long time. And I think a lot of people who are in public health positions right now believe that their tenure and their appointment to these positions is a referendum on COVID, in some respects. And so that echoes through their public comments. This is not COVID. It’s not going to spread like a pandemic virus like COVID did, like a Coronavirus did. It spreads far less efficiently. There aren’t any treatments, successful treatments for this virus. Ivermectin certainly isn’t an effective treatment. Just by virtue of its mechanism, it doesn’t work against this virus. It prevents viral replication in the nucleus, not the cytoplasm. If this virus replicates, it’s just not going to work. So I would encourage people not to use that. I know that there’s been some things on social media suggesting that people should stockpile ivermectin. We don’t have an effective treatment for Hantavirus, and that- that’s what makes this very menacing.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well indeed, and we’re going to continue to track that. You served in the first Trump administration as his FDA commissioner in the first term. The person in that job now has been a guest on this program, Dr. Marty Makary. He was a vocal critic of COVID response during Trump and Biden. There’s a lot of reporting right now that his current position- that he’s at risk of losing his job. Given how important the FDA is, they regulate- I saw one-fifth of consumer spending in this country- how damaging would it be to lose its leader? And is there someone who could step in quickly?

    DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB: No one obvious to me, and there’s been some reporting about different candidates that could work on an interim basis there. Marty’s a friend, you know, I think that that’s a very difficult job. It, as you said, regulates about 20% of the U.S. economy, products that are very important to people’s lives, medical products, food, food safety. And so there- there’s a lot of debate and consternation about decisions that get made at FDA. And so it’s been a controversial position for whoever has held that job, including me. You know, I got criticized for decisions that I made in that position as well. I think the continued upheaval at FDA has been detrimental to the agency, not just the speculation about Marty’s fate, but also the departures that we’ve seen from the agency. The agency’s lost thousands of medical reviewers, some voluntary through- the through the DOGE cuts, or some forced through the DOGE cuts, involuntary means, some voluntary. There’s been a lot of voluntary departures from the agency. If you look at the oncology division, they had a starting strength of about 100 medical reviewers at the beginning of this administration. They’re down to about 50. The hematological group that reviews drugs for leukemia and lymphoma had 21 medical reviewers, and it’s down to six. They lost an entire breast cancer review team. So there’s been a lot of departures from the agency. You’ve seen political appointees take over what are typically career leadership positions, running the medical product centers, the drug center and the biologics center. So, I think cumulatively, that’s taken a toll on the agency, and this continued speculation that we saw on Friday, I think is just going to be another step downward.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Those are stunning numbers to hear you rattle off there. I want to ask you about some of current leadership there. Secretary Kennedy was speaking about the use of antidepressants in this country. Almost 17% of Americans use them. He says they’re overprescribed, and he compared his experience of heroin withdrawal to a family member’s experience getting off antidepressants known as SSRIs. Take a listen.

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    HHS SECRETARY ROBERT F KENNEDY: I watched a family member get off of them after a couple of years on them, and she was suicidal. Literally every day. She woke up every morning and said, I don’t want to live. And she said, “The only reason I’m staying alive is for you guys, for the family.”

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: He later said that he was not telling people to stop if they’re taking that medication. But what do you make of his description of anti-depressants as risky?

    DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Look, these are prescribed in a primary care setting. And like any drug that’s prescribed in that setting, I’m sure there’s some marginal prescribing, you know, isolated marginal prescribing. But for most Americans who take these drugs, they’re very important, and in some cases, life-saving. And I would encourage everyone who is thinking about potentially stopping these medications based on the secretary’s comments, to consult their doctor. There is a period of time that patients need to be weaned off these drugs. They can be successfully weaned off these drugs if they want to be and there’s alternatives that could be effective for their mental health. But nobody should just stop these drugs outright without being under the consultation of a medical provider. I worry that the secretary’s comments is going to discourage legitimate use of these drugs in the same way that his comments around Tylenol discouraged use of Tylenol in the setting of pregnancy, where it could be very important for certain pregnant women who need pain relief and fever relief in that setting. And we saw a lot of women move away from those drugs, use of those drugs, even appropriate use of those drugs, based on the Secretary’s comments about that. I worry about the same thing here. It’s clear that the Secretary wants to put downward pressure on the prescribing. He tried to implement regulatory steps to do that as well. And so it is concerning.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, Dr. Gottlieb, we’re going to have to leave it there. I want to have you back to talk about vaping one of these days, but I’m going to have to leave it there due to time constraints. Thank you so much for your analysis. We’ll be back in a moment.

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