2026年11月8日 美国东部时间下午2:22 / CBS新闻
以下是2026年11月8日在《玛格丽特·布伦娜主持的直面国家》节目中播出的对阿肯色州共和党众议员弗伦奇·希尔的采访文字实录
玛格丽特·布伦娜：现在我们来连线共和党众议员弗伦奇·希尔。他目前担任金融服务委员会主席，从阿肯色州小石城和我们连线。早上好，议员。你在阿肯色州的艰难选举中胜出，通常来说阿肯色州是共和党铁票仓。你仅以4000多票的优势击败了民主党对手。那么你的其他共和党同僚为什么会遭遇失利？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：玛格丽特，很高兴和你连线。今年的选举周期非常复杂艰难。我们在2024年向美国民众承诺，会筑牢边境、保障社区安全、在国际舞台发挥领导作用，但我们也告诉大家，我们会持续为降低生活成本而努力。我认为，无论共和党众议院做了多少努力，美国民众仍然关心拜登执政期间经历的20%通胀带来的影响。虽然通胀率已从9%降至3%，但并未继续降低。我认为这是核心问题：美国民众，以及我们所有家庭都在承受的生活成本压力。因此我们还有很多工作要做。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：是啊，成本正在侵蚀工资涨幅，尤其是过去六个月。不过我们来谈谈当前可能推进的事项。你知道，特朗普总统已经更换了幕僚长，斯蒂芬·米勒现在担任该职位。你的共和党同僚、内布拉斯加州的唐·培根表示，米勒并非合适人选，因为他带有对抗性。他在选举期间伤害了共和党，并称“就移民议题而言，他让特朗普总统的支持率从2:1的优势转为2:1的劣势”。你是否认同他的说法？我的意思是，任命米勒担任幕僚长释放了什么信号？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：首先，我认为苏西·怀尔斯即将卸任。特朗普总统有权提拔斯蒂芬·米勒担任幕僚长。在第120届国会期间，这个职位意味着他将作为总统的联络人，与国会讨论政策事务。不过我要告诉你，在移民议题上，我认为我们应当专注于移民改革，这一议题我在2018年已两次投票支持。我们需要解决在该国寻求庇护、处理临时保护性服务、以及陪伴绿卡持有者（如遍布全国的工程界人士和其他合法入境者）在美的儿童相关问题。我们确实需要解决这些问题。我认为特朗普总统可以在这一领域发挥领导作用，而斯蒂芬·米勒也热衷于此事：没错，要筑牢边境，但我们现在能否改革移民体系，让它更适合我们国家？我相信这将解决与驱逐相关的问题。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：我理解你的想法，但客观来说，你认为斯蒂芬·米勒能够说服民主党，也能被说服支持你刚才提到的那种庇护政策吗？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：你看，这正是特朗普总统多年来一直强调的：如果边境安全得到保障，他希望尝试改革我们有缺陷的移民体系，这也是他第一任期内讨论过的议题。下一届国会或许有机会以两党合作的方式找到解决方案。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：你们还有很多事务需要推进。你的共和党同僚托马斯·马西正在推动弹劾部长皮特·赫格塞思，预计本周会有相关行动。你的一些同僚，比如詹姆斯·科默十分确定地表示，赫格塞思存在诸多问题，共和党选民对此不满。赫格塞思应该被弹劾吗？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：嗯，这个问题应该由总统来回答：他是否应该继续担任战争部长……
玛格丽特·布伦娜：不过马西众议员会请你对此做出回答。
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：没错。你知道，我想听听相关辩论，看看是否值得弹劾，还是采取其他纪律处分，或者如果他未能有效领导国防部，总统是否需要采取行动。这才是关键。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：你对这场战争的处理方式满意吗？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：不满意，但我认为总司令必须为战争的战略制定和执行承担责任。不过有一点我可以肯定：美国没有人希望伊朗拥有核武器。这是美国五十年来的目标。玛格丽特，回顾上世纪90年代，克林顿总统本有机会阻止朝鲜拥有核武器，但未能实现……
玛格丽特·布伦娜：对，还有……
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：这对东北亚和美国来说都是重大问题。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：中央司令部刚刚悬赏2000万美元，征集有关伊朗核计划的信息。显然美国政府对此并不清楚，也没有彻底摧毁该计划。不过回到赫格塞思的问题。我理解你的意思是，你并不完全认同战争进展的方式，但你不确定他是否犯下了可弹劾的罪行。你是否愿意考虑弹劾？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：是的，是的。关键就在这里。如果你认为他的工作表现不佳，并不意味着他必然犯下了可弹劾的罪行。他是行政部门的行政官员，如果他没有正确履行职责，总统就应当做出调整。问题在于：我们在五角大楼的领导是否正确。这和某人是否犯下可弹劾的罪行是完全不同的两回事。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：你现在还不想明确表态会如何投票。你是否已经决定会投票支持史蒂夫·斯卡利斯还是吉姆·乔丹担任共和党领袖？
众议员弗伦奇·希尔：这两位都是出色的领导人，都能成功领导党团。你知道，我们有新成员。在170席的多数党中，有60到65名议员的任期只有两年或更短，我认为我们需要召开党团会议来讨论此事。但史蒂夫·斯卡利斯和吉姆·乔丹都完全有能力在少数党中发挥领导作用，我期待本周在党团中的讨论。
玛格丽特·布伦娜：好的，我们拭目以待谁将最终胜出，也期待看到你对赫格塞思部长的投票结果。弗伦奇·希尔今早从阿肯色州和我们连线。请继续停留，我们的《直面国家》节目稍后还将带来更多内容。
共和党众议员弗伦奇·希尔表示“我想听听弹劾皮特·赫格塞思的辩论”
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gop-rep-french-hill-says-i-want-to-hear-the-debate-on-impeaching-pete-hegseth/
November 8, 2026 / 2:22 PM EST / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Rep. French Hill, Republican of Arkansas, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Nov. 8, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Republican Congressman French Hill. He is currently the chairman of the Financial Services Committee, and he joins us from Little Rock, Arkansas. Good morning to you, Congressman. You survived a tough race down in, in Arkansas, usually ruby red. You finished just over 4000 votes ahead of your Democratic rival. What went wrong for so many other of your Republican colleagues here?
REP. FRENCH HILL: Well, Margaret, it’s good to be with you. It was a very complicated, tough election cycle this year. Look, we told the American people in 2024 that we’d secure the border, we’d make our communities safer. We would lead in the world, but we also told the American people that we would continue to fight to lower costs. And I think what we saw, no matter how many efforts that we made in the Republican House, that Americans are still concerned about the impact of 20% inflation that they experienced during the Biden administration, and that while it’s down from 9% to 3%, it has not gone lower. And that I think was a principal issue: the costs that the American people are, are having and experiencing in all of our families. So we have more work to do there.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah, costs eating into wage gains, particularly over the past six months. But let’s talk about what’s possible now. President Trump has changed his Chief of Staff, as you know, Stephen Miller, now in that role. Your Republican colleague Don Bacon of Nebraska said Miller is not a good choice because he’s antagonistic. He hurt Republicans during the election, saying he quote, took the immigration issue for President Trump from a two to one favorable to a two to one unfavorable. Do you agree with him? I mean, what, what does putting Miller in the chief’s role signal?
REP. FRENCH HILL: Well, first, I think Susie Wiles is leaving. President Trump has the right to promote Stephen Miller to be the chief. That responsibility means that during this 120th Congress, he’ll be the point person for the president in discussing policy matters with Congress. I’ll tell you though, on the immigration issue, I think we should focus on immigration reform, which I voted for twice back in 2018 to resolve the issues about how to seek asylum in this country, how we handle temporary protective services, and how we deal with children in this country that are here with legal green card holders like our engineering community that’s across the country, as well as those who’ve come in the country legally, but their kids are legal. We do need to resolve it. I think it’s a place where President Trump can lead, and this is an area that Stephen Miller is keen on, which is, secure the border, yes, but can we now reform the immigration system and make it better for our country? And that will, I believe, answer the questions about the deportation issue.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, I understand the aspiration, but credibly, you believe Stephen Miller can persuade Democrats and be persuaded himself to go for the kind of asylum you just spoke about?
REP. FRENCH HILL: Well, look, this is what President Trump has said for years that if the border was secure, he wanted to try to reform our broken immigration system, and that was an issue that came up in his first term, this is an opportunity that perhaps we can, on a bipartisan basis, find that solution in the next Congress.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I- there’s a lot of business for you all to get done. Your Republican colleague Thomas Massie is spearheading an effort to impeach Pete Hegseth, the secretary. There is action expected this week. Some of your colleagues, like James Comer has said with a high level of confidence, there’s a lot of questions about Hegseth, and Republican voters are upset. Should Hegseth be impeached?
REP. FRENCH HILL: Well, the question is for the president: Should he continue to serve as the Secretary of War–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re going to asked to answer this though by Representative Massie.
REP. FRENCH HILL: Yeah, that’s right. Well, you know, I want to hear the debate on it to see if it merits impeachment versus some other disciplinary action or action by the president if he’s not getting the job done in leading the Department of War. That’s the issue.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you satisfied with how the war has been handled?
REP. FRENCH HILL: No, but I mean I think the commander in chief has to take the responsibility for the strategy of conducting the war and how it’s been conducted. But I’ll tell you one thing: there’s nobody in America that wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. This has been a goal of the United States for five decades. Well, look at the 1990s, Margaret. President Clinton had the opportunity to prevent North Korea from having a nuclear weapon, and it didn’t happen–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, and–
REP. FRENCH HILL: -that’s a big issue for North Asia and for the U.S.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And CENTCOM just put out a $20 million reward offer for information about Iran’s nuclear program. So it’s clear the U.S. government doesn’t have clarity, nor has it completely obliterated the program. But just to go back to Hegseth. Do I hear you right? You don’t necessarily approve of how the war is going, but you’re undecided about whether he has committed an impeachable offense. Are you open to considering impeachment?
REP. FRENCH HILL: Right. Right. Here, look. Look. This is no. This is the issue. If you don’t think he’s done a good job conducting his job, that doesn’t mean per se that he’s committed an impeachable offense. He’s an executive officer of the executive branch, and if he’s not conducting his mission in the right way, then the president ought to make a change there. The question is: Are we leading at the Pentagon in the right way or not the right way? That’s very separate from whether or not somebody’s committed an impeachable offense.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you don’t want to commit on how you’ll vote today. Have you reached a conclusion on whether you’ll vote for Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan for Republican leader?
REP. FRENCH HILL: These are two excellent leaders. They both could lead the conference successfully. We have, as you know, new members. We have about 60, 65 members of our 170 majority that have only been in Congress two years or less, and I think we need to have our family meeting and discuss it. But both Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan are fully capable of leading in the minority, and I look forward to our discussion in conference this week.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All right. Well, we will see who ends up, and we look forward to seeing how you end up voting on Secretary Hegseth as well. French Hill joining us this morning from Arkansas. Stay with us. A lot more Face the Nation when we’re back.
GOP Rep. French Hill says “I want to hear the debate” on impeaching Pete Hegseth
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gop-rep-french-hill-says-i-want-to-hear-the-debate-on-impeaching-pete-hegseth/
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