2026-10-06T21:21:55.210Z / https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/06/politics/trump-iran-california-comments
唐纳德·特朗普总统经常发表许多怪异甚至充满仇恨的言论。但暗示他会允许伊朗用核弹袭击洛杉矶和圣迭戈,并不属于其中之一。
周一晚间在内布拉斯加州的一场集会上,特朗普“东拉西扯”地卷入了一场争议:批评者、部分媒体人士甚至一名共和党国会候选人指责他在言辞上放弃了美国西海岸的两大人口重镇,将其拱手让给美国的死敌。你若按这种方式解读总统的言论,也完全情有可原。
但结合语境和近期的历史背景可以明确,特朗普的问题与其说是对加州民众的命运漠不关心,不如说是他愈发严重的语无伦次。
需要明确的是,这对这位全球最有权势的人来说,依然是一个严重的问题。
首先,我们来回顾一下特朗普的原话。
“他们可以摧毁一座城市,”他在谈及伊朗时说道,“就让他们——就让——让他们摧毁洛杉矶吧。就让他们摧毁圣迭戈吧。这——这是一个非常小的代价。”
考虑到特朗普近期的过往,这番话或许只是又一次典型的特朗普式言语失当。这位总统曾多次扬言要否决对投票反对其政党的州的救灾援助,并且表现出对蓝州的些许漠视。他领导的能源部近日在法庭上承认,其取消清洁能源拨款的理由“完全基于拨款接收州的政治属性”。
佛蒙特州独立参议员伯尼·桑德斯指责特朗普称,所谓的“小代价”竟是“两座美国大城市的毁灭”。康涅狄格州民主党参议员克里斯·墨菲称这是“如此病态、邪恶的言论”。甚至担任圣迭戈县监事会成员的共和党国会候选人吉姆·戴斯蒙德也表示,特朗普的言论是“将美国城市视为战争可接受的代价”。戴斯蒙德对此“强烈反对”。
但很明显,特朗普真正想表达的并非此意。
其一,在上述引述之前,他一直在谈论伊朗战争的其他代价——显然是指油价——称那是“非常小的代价”。
“再提醒大家一下——用这个词——有点人为推高,油价有点高,”特朗普说道,“但为了保卫世界安全、保卫我们国家的安全,这只是一个很小的代价。”
(你可以在此处观看特朗普的完整演讲。)
请注意,特朗普最初并未说明他指的是油价(尽管他后来确实说明了这一点)。但长期以来,他正是这样谈论这个问题的——将其作为“阻止伊朗拥有核武器的小代价”:
- 他在3月8日的Truth Social平台上表示,“短期油价……对美国和世界的安全与和平而言,只是一个非常小的代价。”
- 3月16日,他称高油价“与允许他们拥有核武器相比,只是一件小事”。
- 5月5日,他称高油价“为销毁一枚核武器付出的代价非常小”。
- 他甚至在周一的另一场活动中——内布拉斯加州当地电视台的采访中——也提到了这一点:“我自豪地说:为了不让疯子国家拥有核武器,付出的代价相对较小。”
此外,三天前,特朗普在阿拉巴马州莫比尔的集会上发表了一段与洛杉矶和圣迭戈言论极为相似的论述,只是针对的是莫比尔。
“但请记住油价:你们正在付出代价,但如果任由这些疯子拥有核武器并用来袭击莫比尔、阿拉巴马,那代价可比这大得多了,”特朗普说道,“好吧,这种事不会发生。”
在內布拉斯加州的集会上,特朗普基本上沿用了这一论调,但表述变得更加难以理解。
他从谈论卡玛拉·哈里斯和选举,到希望在伊朗问题上取得全面胜利,再到谈论油价高企(但始终没有明确提及“油价”)。当他发表伊朗将核弹投向洛杉矶和圣迭戈的言论时,他的遣词造句非常不当,听起来确实像是他会“让他们”——也就是德黑兰——袭击这两座蓝州城市。
随后他又回到了油价话题,但再次表述得极为混乱。
“但这很快就会结束,无论如何都会结束,你们的汽油、燃油以及所有东西——”特朗普说道,随后突然扯到了委内瑞拉。
这番言论混乱至极,不仅那位共和党国会候选人做出了最坏的解读,现场许多观众也是如此。事实上,这整个事件中最令人不安的一点是,当特朗普抛出摧毁洛杉矶和圣迭戈的说法时,台下观众竟然真的欢呼起来。这似乎能说明特朗普所培育的支持者群体的某些特质。
不过,尽管他并非在倡导这种行为,他的措辞确实暴露了一个日益严重的问题。
总统本应是权威且清晰的代言人,尤其是在谈论核战争这类至关重要的议题时。但特朗普的言辞往往恰恰相反。
看看最近任何一份公开的采访 transcript 就能明白。例如,上周他接受《时代》杂志采访时的部分回应几乎让人无法理解。(如果想找些例子,只需搜索“无法理解”即可。)他的发言常常给人一种在进行冗长的自由联想的感觉。
在某种程度上,特朗普一直都是这样说话的。他将自己漫无目的的独白称为“东拉西扯”,试图让这听起来像是有意为之,让他的支持者相信这是他隐秘的修辞天赋。
但如今,这种“东拉西扯”变得越来越难以理解,甚至可能带来有害的后果。
Trump’s comment about Iran nuking Los Angeles and San Diego was incoherent, not malicious
2026-10-06T21:21:55.210Z / https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/06/politics/trump-iran-california-comments
President Donald Trump says many bizarre and even hateful things. But signaling he would allow Iran to nuke Los Angeles and San Diego is not one of them.
During a rally in Nebraska on Monday night, Trump “weaved” his way right into a controversy that had critics, some in the media and even a GOP congressional candidate accusing him of rhetorically conceding major population centers on the West Coast to America’s sworn enemy. And you could be forgiven for reading the president’s comments that way.
But context and recent history make clear that Trump’s crime was less indifference to the fate of Californians and more his increasingly profound incoherence.
Which, to be clear, is still a major problem for the most powerful man in the world.
First, let’s recap what Trump said.
“They can take out a city,” he said of Iran. “Let them take – let it – let them take out Los Angeles. Let them take out San Diego. That’s – this is a very small price to pay.”
It wouldn’t be totally out of character for this to be another Trumpian verbal excess, given his recent past. This is a president who has repeatedly spoken about withholding disaster aid from states that vote against his party, and he has demonstrated some indifference to blue states. His Energy Department recently admitted in court that it canceled clean energy grants “based solely on the political identity of the grant recipient’s state.”
Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont accused Trump of saying the small price to pay was the “annihilation of two major American cities.” Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut called it “such a sick, evil thing to say.” Even GOP congressional candidate Jim Desmond, who serves on the San Diego County board of supervisors, said what Trump did was “write off American cities as an acceptable price of war.” Desmond “vehemently” disagreed with it.
But that is pretty clearly not what Trump was trying to say.
For one, immediately before the above quote, he had been talking about other costs of the Iran war — apparently referring to gas prices — being that “small price to pay.”
“And again, remember — with the word — it’s just artificial, it’s a little bit high,” Trump said. “It’s a small price to pay for keeping the world safe, keeping our country safe.”
(You can see Trump’s full speech here.)
Trump didn’t initially say he was referring to gas prices, mind you (though he did say that later). But this is precisely how he’s been talking about them for a long time — as a “small price to pay” for preventing a nuclear Iran:
- He said March 8 on Truth Social that “short term oil prices … is a very small price to pay for U.S.A., and World, Safety and Peace.”
- On March 16, he called high gas prices “a very small thing compared to allowing them to have” nuclear weapons.
- On May 5, he called high gas prices “a very small price to pay for getting rid of a nuclear weapon.”
- He even said it in a separate appearance on Monday — an interview with a local Nebraska TV station: “I say it proudly: a relatively small price to pay for keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of a lunatic nation.”
Also, three days ago, Trump made a very similar argument to the one he made about Los Angeles and San Diego — except about Mobile, Alabama, during a rally there.
“But remember about the oil: You’re paying a price, but boy, is that a small price than what it would be if these lunatics were allowed to have a nuclear weapon and used it on Mobile, Alabama,” Trump said. “OK, not going to happen.”
At his Nebraska rally, Trump basically took that talking point and made it a whole lot more unintelligible.
He bounced around from talking about Kamala Harris and the election, to wanting total victory in Iran, to talking about gas prices being high (but without actually saying “gas prices”). When he made the comment about Iran nuking Los Angeles and San Diego, he used very unfortunate sentence construction that did sound a lot like he would “let them” — Tehran, that is — nuke the two blue state cities.
And then he returned to the gas prices — but again, in an extremely confusing way.
“But it’s gonna end very soon, and it’ll end one way or the other, and your gas and your gasoline and all of the things —” Trump said, before jumping off on a tangent about Venezuela.
It was so confusing that not only did that GOP congressional candidate seem to interpret it in the worst way; so did many in the crowd. Indeed, the ugliest part of this whole episode is that people actually cheered when Trump floated the destruction of Los Angeles and San Diego. That would seem to say something about the movement Trump has cultivated.
But while he wasn’t advocating that, his phrasing does point to a growing problem.
A president is someone you count on to be authoritative and clear, especially when talking about issues of the utmost importance like nuclear war. But Trump’s rhetoric is often anything but.
Look at any recent interview where a transcript is released. Some of Trump’s responses in his Time magazine interview last week, for example, are virtually impenetrable. (Just do a word search for “unintelligible” if you want some examples.) It often feels like he’s engaging in a lengthy bout of free association.
Trump has long spoken like this, to an extent. And by casting his meandering soliloquies as “the weave,” he’s tried to make it sound intentional, allowing his supporters to believe it’s his secret rhetorical genius.
But the “weave” is getting harder to follow — with potentially harmful consequences, too.
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