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在成为史上最知名的银幕拳手之前，西尔维斯特·史泰龙曾为在纽约生存拼尽全力。比如，他曾住在只能用披萨盒当床垫的地方。“没错，我确实这么做过，那玩意儿还挺舒服的，”他说。
他还曾在中央公园动物园清理狮笼。“那活计糟透了，我看着这些了不起的动物心里就不好受，可更糟的是身上沾了一身它们的味道，回家的时候身上那味儿散都散不掉，你懂的。”他说。
记者特雷西·史密斯与演员西尔维斯特·史泰龙在纽约市。 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻网
作为一名在大都市挣扎求生的落魄演员，日子本就难熬，而他的成长经历也好不到哪儿去。史泰龙80年前出生在纽约地狱厨房，他说父母在他年纪还很小的时候就把他送进了寄宿学校。他表示自己能理解。“我几乎没怪过他们，”他说，“那时候我太皮了。”
他的父母从不擅于表达爱意。“没错，我觉得他们根本不知道该怎么表达。家里从来没有过肢体接触，”他说。
连个拥抱都没有？“哦，那当然，绝对没有。”
西尔维斯特·史泰龙饰演洛基·巴尔博亚，《洛奇》（1976）剧照。 银屏合集/盖蒂图片社
但史泰龙表示，这段充满艰辛的童年为他后来为打造毕生挚爱之作所要面对的 uphill battle（艰难 uphill battle 应为“艰苦卓绝的斗争”）做好了绝佳的准备。他的奋斗历程如此传奇，甚至被拍成了一部电影：将于今年11月上映的《我演洛基》，讲述史泰龙在耳边全是“不行”的质疑声时，是如何坚持信念的。史泰龙没有参与这部电影的制作，但他表示剧组精准还原了当年的故事。
当被问及在一扇扇大门都在他面前重重关上时，他是如何坚持下去的，他回答道：“因为我觉得这是一个优胜劣汰的过程。总有一扇门会为我打开。”
最终他亲手为自己打开了那扇门。如今已成传奇的故事是：史泰龙写下了《洛奇》的剧本，并且打定主意要亲自出演主角。
他只用了大约三天半就写完了剧本，并将其归功于神的指引：“我当时说，‘这是你的安排吗，要来考验我、磨炼我吗？好吧，我已经走到这一步了，绝不认输。’然后我回去写完了《洛奇》的最后几页。我真的感觉有什么东西在指引我的笔，因为自那以后我再也没这么顺利过。所以我不得不承认，确实有某种神圣的力量在引导着我。”
史泰龙为《洛奇》早期剧本撰写的批注。他也凭借该片获得奥斯卡最佳原创剧本提名。 出自《台阶》；威廉·莫罗出版社
史泰龙于1975年3月完成了《洛奇》的剧本，但这位落魄演员此时依旧只是个身无分文的落魄编剧。他最终卖掉了自己的狗，因为没钱再喂它。“那是我唯一能卖的东西了，当时就是这样，”他说。
在他9月29日由威廉·莫罗出版社出版的新回忆录《台阶》中，史泰龙回忆称，当时有制片方愿意出高价买下他的剧本，但前提是他们可以另选演员饰演洛基·巴尔博亚。最高的出价达到了36万美元。“我说，算了，我不能这么做，”他说，“我几乎爬遍了纽约的每一条排水沟，睡过每一条小巷。我已经付出了所有代价，我知道这就是我的机会。我再也不会有这样的机会了。我不知道你们是否相信命运，但我认为有些时候，命运就是这样安排的。”
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这部电影最终成为了文化现象，斩获三项奥斯卡奖（包括最佳影片），票房也一路飘红。饰演洛基的史泰龙势不可挡。他甚至赎回了自己那只名叫布特卡的狗，还让它在电影里出镜。
史泰龙之后又主演了另一部系列电影《第一滴血》。但到了20世纪90年代，他的明星光环开始黯淡。他说：“当你在艺术上陷入枯竭，没人再想找你拍戏的时候，你该何去何从？你就像个多余的累赘，去参加派对也没人在意，你不再有存在感，甚至没人会想念你。”
他表示这样的状态持续了大约六年，当时他在艺术上已经“死了”。当被问及他是如何重新振作起来时，他回答道：“笔！”
没错，就是笔。2006年，史泰龙写下了第六部《洛奇》剧本，并亲自执导了这部电影。这一步走对了：《洛奇·巴尔博亚》在票房和影评界都大获成功，让史泰龙重新跻身好莱坞一线影星之列，他最常饰演的角色就是那些克服重重困难、最终逆袭成功的人物。
看起来他在职业生涯中也做到了这一点：在过去六十年里，史泰龙每年都至少有一部票房冠军电影。能做到这一点的另一位演员只有哈里森·福特。
更别说离谱的电影荣誉了：讲述他故事的《我演洛基》，目前正处于今年奥斯卡奖的热门候选之列。
史泰龙还将他的才华拓展到了流媒体剧集领域。下个月，他将出演派拉蒙+平台剧集《塔尔萨之王》的第四季（派拉蒙+隶属于哥伦比亚广播公司的母公司）。他有时会和斯嘉丽·史泰龙同台演戏，斯嘉丽是他与第三任妻子、模特詹妮弗·弗拉文所生的三个女儿之一。尽管一路走来磕磕绊绊，但他与妻子已经携手近30年。
当被问及这段时间里他在婚姻中学到了什么时，史泰龙回答道：“我从她身上学到了什么？我永远都比不上她。她太了不起了，是她让我撑了下来。我花了好久才回过神来，才意识到：‘哦，你身边就拥有世界上最棒的礼物，你却还在往外看，你这个傻子！’”
史泰龙在纽约的卡邦餐厅接受了我们的采访（他是这家餐厅的私交好友）。这里和他20世纪70年代时身处的纽约截然不同，当时的日子黯淡无光，但那时的世界仿佛尽在他的掌握之中。
“我并不是说我有多热爱纽约，”他说，“纽约对我来说就是战场，现在依然是，你懂我的意思吗？它很美，有商店，有文化，但我走在这些街道上时，只会盯着地面的裂缝，能看到污垢和种种不堪。所以我一直是这么看待这座城市的：我有点像是坠入了地狱，你知道吗？你能不能从这里爬出去，将来有一天住进顶层公寓？你懂我的意思吗？”
而他确实做到了。“看看现在的我！”他大笑着说。
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Sylvester Stallone on the fight to make “Rocky”
September 27, 2026 / 10:16 AM EDT / CBS News
Long before he became the most famous cinematic fighter of all time, Sylvester Stallone had to fight his own battle to survive in New York. For example, he was living in places where he literally had pizza boxes for his mattress. “I did, yeah. It was very comfortable,” he said.
His jobs also included cleaning the lion cages in the Central Park Zoo. “That’s a rough one, because I felt so bad for these magnificent animals,” he said, “and then I felt bad because I smelled like them, you know, going home.”
Correspondent Tracy Smith with actor Sylvester Stallone in New York City. CBS News
As a starving actor in the big city, life was tough, but his upbringing wasn’t much easier. Born in New York’s Hell’s Kitchen 80 years ago, Stallone says his parents sent him away to a boarding house at a very young age. He says he understood. “I almost didn’t blame them,” he said. “I was very rambunctious.”
His parents were not the kind to show affection. “No. I don’t think they knew how. There was zero touching,” he said.
No hugs? “Oh, no, no, no.”
Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa in “Rocky” (1976). Silver Screen Collection/Getty Images
But Stallone says his hard-knocks childhood was great training for the uphill battle he’d face trying to make the passion project of his life. His struggle was so epic, they’ve made a film about it: “I Play Rocky,” coming out this November, about how Stallone kept the faith when the only thing he kept hearing was “No.” Stallone wasn’t involved in making the movie, but he says they really nailed it.
Asked how he was able to keep going as doors kept getting slammed in his face, he replied, “Because I consider there’s a process of elimination. Eventually they’re going to open the door.”
He wound up making his own door. In a story that’s now become legend, Stallone wrote the script for “Rocky,” with himself in mind for the title role.
He wrote it in about 3½ days, and credits divine intervention: “I said, ‘Is this Your plan to, like, torture me? To this-and-that to test me? All right, I’ve come this far, I refuse to break.’ And I went back in and I finished the last few pages of ‘Rocky.’ I really felt as though something guided my hand, because I’ve never been able to do it since. So, that’s why I have to give credence to some sort of divine guidance.”
Stallone’s notes for his early draft of “Rocky.” He would go on to earn an Oscar nomination for best original screenplay. From “The Steps”; William Morrow
Stallone finished the “Rocky” script in March 1975, but the starving actor was now just a starving screenwriter; he was still flat broke. He ended up selling his dog because he couldn’t afford to feed him. “It’s the only thing I could sell. It was like, that was it,” he said.
In his new memoir, “The Steps” (to be published Sept. 29 by William Morrow), Stallone recounts how producers offered him thousands for his script, but only if they could cast someone else as Rocky Balboa. The bidding went as high as $360,000. “I said, pass. I can’t do it,” he said. “I’ve literally crawled through every gutter in New York. I’ve slept in every alleyway. I have paid my dues, and I know this is it. I will never have this opportunity again. I don’t know if you believe in destiny, but I think in some cases, it happens.”
William Morrow
The film went on to become a cultural phenomenon, with three Oscars (including best picture) and monster box office. As Rocky, Stallone was unstoppable. He’d even bought back his dog, named Butkus, and put him in the movie.
Stallone went on to star in another franchise, Rambo. But in the 1990s, that star began to dim. He said, “When you artistically die and nobody wants you, where do you go? You’re just like the 10th wheel going to parties, but you’re not relevant. You’re not missed.”
He said that happened to him for about six years when he was artistically dead. Asked how he resurrected himself, he replied, “The pen!”
Ah yes, the pen. In 2006, Stallone wrote a sixth Rocky script, and directed the film himself. It was a good move: “Rocky Balboa” was a box office and critical smash, and put Stallone right back on top of the list of Hollywood heavyweights, most often playing the guy who beats the odds and somehow comes out on top.
It seems he’s done that in his career, too; Stallone has starred in at least one #1 box office film in each of the past six decades. The only other actor who can say that is Harrison Ford.
And talk about crazy movie accolades: the film about him, “I Play Rocky,” is very much in this year’s Oscar conversation.
Stallone’s also taken his talents to streaming TV. Next month he’ll be in his fourth season of the series “Tulsa King” on Paramount+ (owned by the parent company of CBS). He sometimes shares the screen with Scarlett Stallone, one of three daughters he has with his third wife, model Jennifer Flavin, to whom he’s been married for close to 30 years, despite a few bumps along the way.
Asked what he’s learned about marriage in that time, Stallone replied, “What have I learned from her? That I’ll never be as good as her. She’s just magnificent, has kept me alive. And it took me so long to turn my head around and go, ‘Oh, you have the greatest gift in the world right here and you’re looking out there, you fool!’
Stallone met us at New York’s Carbone Restaurant (he’s a friend of the family there). It’s a far cry from the New York he knew in the 1970s when things were bleak, but the world was his for the taking.
“It isn’t as though I have a love affair with New York,” he said. “New York to me was a battlefield, and it still is, you know what I mean? It’s beautiful, the shops and the culture, but I walk these streets, I would look at the cracks, I could see the filth and whatever. And so, I always approached it as this, I kind of like descend into a hell, you know? Like, are you going to be able to elevate yourself from this to some penthouse someday? You know what I mean?”
And he did it. “Look at me now!” he laughed.
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