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华盛顿电——路易斯安那州联邦共和党参议员比尔·卡西迪周日敦促总统在谈论疫苗时保持“彻底坦诚”。今年美国报告的麻疹病例数已达到三十多年来的最高水平。
“我只想请总统意识到，民众都在听他讲话——如果他反对免疫接种，接种疫苗的人就会减少，而说到麻疹的话，就会有更多人住院甚至死亡，”卡西迪在《与玛格丽特·布伦南会面》节目中表示。
近几个月来，随着麻疹病例数攀升，特朗普政府一直在鼓励父母为孩子接种麻疹疫苗。但特朗普本人却对疫苗及其接种计划表示质疑，包括上个月通过一项行政令，建议将麻腮风三联疫苗（MMR）拆分为三次单独注射。他还在没有证据的情况下声称，若不拆分麻腮风三联疫苗，可能会“致命”。
周五在椭圆形办公室接受记者采访时，总统表示他将“要求”制药公司将儿童疫苗拆分为五剂，每六个月接种一次。他称：“疫苗剂量会小得多，小得多”，并声称这将“大幅降低自闭症发病率”。
“与其一次性向手臂注射82种或88种不同疫苗的大剂量组合，我们将移除某些民众略有担忧的疫苗，”特朗普说。
身为医生的卡西迪表示，他不清楚总统指的是哪些疫苗。但他强调，必须做到“彻底坦诚”。
“请总统站出来说明——他的说法依据是什么？谁在给他提供建议？”卡西迪说。
卡西迪称他是“以医生的身份”看待这个问题，他表示民众心存担忧，“我们需要针对他们的担忧对症下药”。
“如果要做到彻底坦诚，那就是疫苗是安全的，已被证明是安全的，现行的接种计划安排也是最方便父母的，”他说。“任何时候，父母都可以说‘我想要不同的方案’。”
卡西迪敦促总统解释自己的立场，问道：“你为什么认为这种疫苗会致命？”
“你见过致命的病例吗？”他说。“那那些未接种疫苗、染病甚至死亡的人又该怎么办？”
这位路易斯安那州共和党议员援引了近期与麻疹相关的死亡案例，包括一名40岁男子和一名18岁男子。他说：“得麻疹并不是一种无受害者的经历”，并将其与酒驾相提并论。
“你可以喝酒喝醉，但如果你开车，就会伤害到其他人，”卡西迪说。“你可以得麻疹，但当你开始将病毒传播给他人时，就会有一名40岁的人死亡，一名18岁的人死亡，新生儿重症监护室里的孩子也会面临风险。民众必须意识到这一点，政府也必须意识到。总统应该说：‘接种疫苗吧。这既安全又有效。’”
他补充道：“我们应该用彻底坦诚的共同声音，努力帮助美国民众了解什么是安全的。如果总统称疫苗致命，那他的信息来源是什么，总统先生？如果你真的没有依据，那你为什么要拿美国同胞的生命冒险？”
这位路易斯安那州共和党议员将于明年年初卸任，此前总统背书了他在共和党初选中的对手。他担任参议院卫生、教育、劳工与养老金委员会主席。当被问及在本周FDA专员候选人海蒂·奥弗顿的听证会上，他希望听到什么内容时，卡西迪说：“我需要听到她明白，称麻疹疫苗致命是荒谬的，我们需要彻底坦诚。”
卡西迪还指出，总统提名的卫生部长候选人妮可·萨皮尔上周在委员会听证会上表示，麻腮风三联疫苗并不致命，并鼓励民众接种疫苗。卡西迪表示，她赢得了他的投票。
“当有人愿意对美国民众坦诚相待，说疫苗是安全的，你应该接种，不接种的后果甚至可能包括死亡，那么在疫苗问题上，你还能要求什么呢？”他说。
Cassidy says Trump needs to be “radically honest” on vaccines amid measles outbreak
September 20, 2026 / 3:37 PM EDT / CBS News
Washington — GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana on Sunday urged the president to be “radically honest” when he’s speaking about vaccines, as the U.S. this year has recorded the most measles cases in more than three decades.
“I would just ask the president to be aware that people are listening to him — if he discourages immunization, there’ll be fewer people immunized, and if we’re speaking of measles, there’ll be more people sick in the hospital or even die,” Cassidy said on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan”.
The Trump administration has been encouraging parents to vaccinate their children against measles in recent months, as cases have climbed. But Mr. Trump has cast doubt on the vaccine and its schedule, including through an executive order last month suggesting that the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, known as MMR, should be given as three separate shots. He also claimed without evidence that the MMR vaccine, if not separated, could be “lethal.”
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Friday, the president said he is going to “demand” that drug companies split up kids’ vaccines into five doses, given in six-month intervals. He said, “the vaccine size will be much, much less” and argued that it will lead “to a massive reduction in autism.”
“So instead of having a massive dose of 82 or 88 different vaccines pumped into your arm, we’ll take out certain vaccines that people are a little worried about,” Mr. Trump said.
Cassidy, a medical doctor, said he didn’t know which vaccines the president was referencing. But he stressed that there needs to be “radical honesty.”
“Have the president come forward — what is he basing this on? Who’s giving him advice?” Cassidy said.
Cassidy said he approaches the issue “as a physician,” saying people are worried, and “we need to address that worry where it is.”
“If you want to be radically honest, the vaccines are safe, they’ve been proven to be safe, and the current regimen has been timed to be most convenient to the parent,” he said. “At any point, the parent can say, ‘I want something different.’”
Cassidy urged the president to explain his position, asking, “Why do you think this vaccine is lethal?”
“Have you ever seen a case of lethality?” he said. “And what about the people who are not vaccinated, who are getting sick and even dying?”
The Louisiana Republican cited recent measles-related deaths, including a 40-year-old and an 18-year-old. He said, “having measles is not a kind of victimless kind of experience,” comparing it to drunk driving.
“You can drink and get drunk, but if you drive, you’re going to hurt other people,” Cassidy said. “You can get measles, but when you start spreading it to other people, a 40-year-old dies, an 18-year-old dies, children in a neonatal intensive care unit are at risk. People have got to realize, and the government has to realize it. The president should be saying, ‘Be vaccinated. It is safe and effective.’”
He added, “We should have a common voice of radical honesty, of trying to help the American people understand what is safe. And if the president calls it lethal, then where are you getting your information, Mr. President? And if you really don’t have it, why are you willing to risk the lives of fellow Americans?”
The Louisiana Republican, who’s leaving office early next year after the president endorsed his GOP challenger, chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. Asked what he needs to hear from the nominee for FDA commissioner, Heidi Overton, at her hearing this week, Cassidy said, “I need to hear that she understands that calling the measles vaccine lethal is absurd, and we need radical honesty.”
Cassidy also noted that the president’s nominee for surgeon general,Nicole Saphier, said in a committee hearing last week that the MMR vaccine is not lethal, while encouraging people to get vaccinated. Cassidy said she earned his vote.
“When somebody is willing to be honest to the American people and say that vaccines are safe, you should be taking it, and the consequence of not can even include death, well, what else can you ask for when it comes to vaccines?” he said.
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