2026年8月19日 / 美国东部时间下午3:49 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻（CBS News）
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格雷厄姆·凯茨是哥伦比亚广播公司新闻数字部负责刑事司法、隐私问题和信息安全的调查记者。可通过KatesG@cbsnews.com或grahamkates@protonmail.com联系格雷厄姆
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迈克尔·科恩与前老板特朗普总统之间漫长曲折的关系将于周四迎来又一次出人意料的转折：这位曾在两场审判中指证特朗普的男子将做客他的电台节目。
科恩告诉哥伦比亚广播公司新闻，他将在自己的节目中采访这位前总统，这证实了MS NOW的相关报道。
“这是八年来这位总统和我之间的第一次公开对话，”科恩说。“当然，此前曾有过被报道的私下对话，但这是第一次公开对话。”
科恩曾担任特朗普先生十多年的“私定中间人”，是他的得力助手，深度参与特朗普集团的交易运作以及特朗普的私人事务。
“我曾是他办公室里的常驻人物，最常坐的就是那张偏厅的红色丝绒座椅，”科恩周三说道。但这段关系在特朗普入主白宫的头几年破裂了，因为科恩在2016大选前代表特朗普向成人影星斯托米·丹尼尔斯支付13万美元封口费一事引发的审查愈演愈烈。
科恩于2018年承认金融犯罪、竞选财务违规以及向国会撒谎的罪名，并服刑一年多。此后他推出了播客并出版书籍，毫不留情地批评特朗普。
“我真他妈希望这个男人能锒铛入狱，”科恩曾如此说道。“你最好相信我希望这家伙身败名裂，因为他对我家人所做的一切。”
科恩在纽约的民事和刑事审判中指证特朗普，协助法庭以与丹尼尔斯事件相关的伪造商业记录罪名，判处特朗普34项重罪成立。
但科恩今年似乎态度转变，他在1月的Substack通讯中写道，他是在检察官的“施压和胁迫”下才指证特朗普的。
两人之间的裂痕或许正在弥合。
“我联系了白宫，联系了总统，他欣然同意了，”科恩在谈及他的电台节目邀请时说道。
科恩表示，采访将于周四上午录制，当晚及周日将在他主持的纽约770AM WABC电台节目“当你知晓，你便明了……与迈克尔·科恩同行”中分段播出。
Michael Cohen, Trump’s fixer-turned-nemesis, says he’ll interview former boss
August 19, 2026 / 3:49 PM EDT / CBS News
By Graham Kates Reporter
Graham Kates is an investigative reporter covering criminal justice, privacy issues and information security for CBS News Digital. Contact Graham at KatesG@cbsnews.com or grahamkates@protonmail.com
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Michael Cohen’s long and winding relationship with his former boss, President Trump, is poised to take another unexpected turn Thursday when the man he testified against in two separate trials calls into his radio show.
Cohen told CBS News that he is set to interview the president on his program, confirming a report from MS NOW.
“This is the first public conversation between the president and myself in eight years,” said Cohen. “You know, there have been private conversations that have, of course, been reported. But this is the first public conversation.”
Cohen spent more than a decade as Mr. Trump’s “fixer,” his right-hand man, intimately involved in the Trump Organization’s dealmaking and Mr. Trump’s private matters.
“I was a permanent fixture in his office, most specifically the far-right red velvet chair,” Cohen said Wednesday. But the relationship fell apart during Mr. Trump’s first years in the White House, as scrutiny mounted over a $130,000 payment Cohen made on Mr. Trump’s behalf to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election.
Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to financial and campaign finance crimes and lying to Congress, and spent more than a year in prison. He later built a podcast and book career devoted to harsh criticism of Mr. Trump.
“I truly f**king hope that this man ends up in prison,” Cohen said at one point. “You better believe I want this man to go down and rot inside for what he did to my family.”
Cohen testified against Mr. Trump in his civil and criminal trials in New York, helping to get Mr. Trump convicted of 34 felony counts of falsification of business records tied to the Daniels matter.
But Cohen appears to have had a change of heart this year, writing in his Substack newsletter in January that he “felt pressured and coerced” by prosecutors to testify against Mr. Trump.
The rift between them may be on the mend.
“I reached out to the White House, reached out to the president, and he kindly agreed,” Cohen said, referring to his radio invitation.
Cohen said the call is being recorded Thursday morning, and will air in parts on that evening and Sunday on his radio show “When You Know, You Know… with Michael Cohen” on New York’s 770am WABC station.
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